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desicat -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/21/2015 8:10:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Oh...crap...Hiei keeps going. Well...this is why you signed up! [image]https://washingtonbus.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/vikingwarship.jpg[/image] This seems to be the theme for this game, the carnage is horrific. Even so, he just took damage that is going to cost him.

desicat -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/21/2015 8:30:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Noumea: I think this leaves the even more beat up 4th Div and a SNLF at Noumea. Jap heavies 480 miles N of Koumac...probably headed for a night bombardment of Noumea. The 3 cruisers aren't going to be enough. Warpsite can't join easily because of the position of the KB. Looks like a night battle is in the works the night of 30/31. The CA need to (in order of priority): 1) Stop a shore bombardment by making the Jap heavies use up their ammo 2) Sink or put out of action the Jap heavies. 3) Not get sunk If the airfield is intact, Jap cripples will be vulnerable to the SBD's...very Guadalcanalish. A young Staff Officer waves several stacks of After Action reports with his left hand in frustration. "It seems that the exact opposite of what we expected happened in every case here! The Warspite did in fact engage the enemy, the Jap heavies didn't use up all their ammo, we didn't stop the shore bombardment nor put any of their bombardment force out of action, and I don't even want to discuss 'ships not getting sunk'. A quick leafing through of the aircraft losses leads even me to believe that the airfield may not quite be operational. I think it's time to get a new magic 8-ball, or stop asking questions with too many double negatives - it makes interpreting the answers too difficult." "I can just hear the Admiral now." quote: Santa Maria! Well..the plan was good. I blame the staff.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 3:26:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: desicat A young Staff Officer waves several stacks of After Action reports with his left hand in frustration. "It seems that the exact opposite of what we expected happened in every case here! The Warspite did in fact engage the enemy, the Jap heavies didn't use up all their ammo, we didn't stop the shore bombardment nor put any of their bombardment force out of action, and I don't even want to discuss 'ships not getting sunk'. A quick leafing through of the aircraft losses leads even me to believe that the airfield may not quite be operational. I think it's time to get a new magic 8-ball, or stop asking questions with too many double negatives - it makes interpreting the answers too difficult." "I can just hear the Admiral now." Enjoy the many scenic wonders of N&IC, young man. [:D]

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 3:28:18 PM)
Situation S and SE of Noumea. Having been built with Sheffield steel, Warspite, despite 4 torpedo hits and 3 bomb hits is still able to make 16 kts with only 20% flotation damage [image]local://upfiles/7983/2C28FE460042417686CAE9954B7E778D.jpg[/image]

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 3:29:58 PM)
The runway at Noumea is at 56% damage. If there is no attack tonight we might be able to get fighters aloft.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 3:35:07 PM)
Aircraft destroyed on the "ground". Most of the this is from Zuiho...but it seems like too many. Perhaps some were on Zuiho and were taken out by 15 inch rounds [image]local://upfiles/7983/D6E59DB1406A4A9DBA61DDFDD20764A2.jpg[/image]

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 3:39:14 PM)
Over in the Medium and Lesser Sundas, the remaining Dutch squadron is mean to the retreating TK's Night Time Surface Combat, near Kofiau at 80,107, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships E Shimushu TB Kasasagi TK Akatsuki Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires TK Akebono Maru TK Goyo Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires Allied Ships CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 1 DD Kortenaer DD Witte de With DD Banckert

witpqs -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 4:51:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Situation S and SE of Noumea. Having been built with Sheffield steel, Warspite, despite 4 torpedo hits and 3 bomb hits is still able to make 16 kts with only 20% flotation damage [image]local://upfiles/7983/2C28FE460042417686CAE9954B7E778D.jpg[/image] Holy crap! She must also be towing a balsa wood replica as a decoy!

Justus2 -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 4:59:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Aircraft destroyed on the "ground". Most of the this is from Zuiho...but it seems like too many. Perhaps some were on Zuiho and were taken out by 15 inch rounds [image]local://upfiles/7983/D6E59DB1406A4A9DBA61DDFDD20764A2.jpg[/image] Is it possible Ryujo sank overnight also? It was listed as Heavy Damage, if flight ops were suspended, and it sank later in the turn, that could explain it. Zuiho and Ryujo each only carry 30/31 aircraft, so 40 ground losses is too high, but (assuming some attrition) losing 20 from each is possible.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 5:09:33 PM)
Yes...sinking of Ryujo would explain the numbers. She was hit quite badly and burning. In my experience, the ground losses are quite reliable intel. Also, as it was a daytime battle, both CVL's would likely have had part of their air complement aloft on CAP or search.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 5:10:46 PM)
Interestingly, there were B5N1's in the strike. Normally, there would be B5N2's aboard the CV's

Lecivius -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 5:13:59 PM)
I wonder what caliber hit the carriers?

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 5:15:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs Holy crap! She must also be towing a balsa wood replica as a decoy! Exactly, I have never seen 4 IJN aerial torpedo hits result in only 20% flotation damage. [image]local://upfiles/7983/2460254EFBE346EF9809E405C91C7077.jpg[/image]

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 5:49:28 PM)
OK..watched the replay. Ryujo 5 hits from Warspite...numerous secondary explosions Zuiho 6 hits from Warspite..secondary explosions..reported sunk on intel screen Hiryu 3 hits from Warspite..at least one large secondary explosion..burning pretty good Soryu 1 hit from Warspite..no fire. Hiryu also suffered a collision at the start of the battle. On the combat replay Warspite seems to suffer only 1 torpedo hit???

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 6:00:16 PM)
Can't say all of those hits are main battery fire.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 6:25:32 PM)
I just realized there were TWO BB centered groups inbound to Noumea, Hiei and Kirishima

BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 9:04:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake I just realized there were TWO BB centered groups inbound to Noumea, Hiei and Kirishima Well, send the unsinkable Warspite in there to deal with them! She may not have 15" rounds left but there are probably still some 6" aboard. About seventy hits on each BB should make them burn up ...[sm=sterb020.gif]

desicat -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 10:16:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake quote: ORIGINAL: desicat A young Staff Officer waves several stacks of After Action reports with his left hand in frustration. "It seems that the exact opposite of what we expected happened in every case here! The Warspite did in fact engage the enemy, the Jap heavies didn't use up all their ammo, we didn't stop the shore bombardment nor put any of their bombardment force out of action, and I don't even want to discuss 'ships not getting sunk'. A quick leafing through of the aircraft losses leads even me to believe that the airfield may not quite be operational. I think it's time to get a new magic 8-ball, or stop asking questions with too many double negatives - it makes interpreting the answers too difficult." "I can just hear the Admiral now." Enjoy the many scenic wonders of N&IC, young man. [:D] quote: Ryujo 5 hits from Warspite...numerous secondary explosions Zuiho 6 hits from Warspite..secondary explosions..reported sunk on intel screen Hiryu 3 hits from Warspite..at least one large secondary explosion..burning pretty good Soryu 1 hit from Warspite..no fire. Hiryu also suffered a collision at the start of the battle. LTjg Ranma Saotome, formerly of the IJN CV Zuiho and aide to her now missing Captain, thanked the crew of the whale boat that pulled him from the sea. The Spanish speaking crew immediately ignored him as they searched for other survivors. Saotome muttered to himself, "Those cunning American planners, we must have fallen right into their trap. How did they know where we would be? Their planning staff must be manned by geniuses." As the whale boat approached the parent fishing vessel the jg noted her name. 'Santa Maria, Concepcion Chile'.

BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/23/2015 10:37:57 PM)
Wait ... is this where the young Japanese Lt. (jap grade) invents sushi? On a fishing boat named after a saint and a sex act and a hot pepper? Can an invasion of South America be far off? Is the Lt. still covered by the landing bonus? So much FOW here ...[;)]

Cap Mandrake -> Trout Almondine (6/25/2015 4:22:12 AM)
************Feb. 1 , 1942(e)************** Oz:** Cruisers try to bombard Japs headed toward the front line near Brisbane. BB's had parked at Marysborough for 2 d. They picked tonight to go crusing. Night Time Surface Combat, near Brisbane at 96,159, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Shell hits 6 BB Yamashiro DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Kawakaze DD Mikazuki Allied Ships CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Canberra, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CL Perth, Shell hits 1, on fire DM Ramsay, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Le Triomphant

Cap Mandrake -> RE: Trout Almondine (6/25/2015 4:28:21 AM)
B-17's try to help the defenders of Brisbane. Morning Air attack on 38th Division, at 95,159 , near Brisbane Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 13 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 22 P-40E Warhawk x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 7 damaged P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 266 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled First attack North of Brisbane. Oops. We are in trouble. Ground combat at 95,159 (near Brisbane) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 24130 troops, 357 guns, 189 vehicles, Assault Value = 688 Defending force 8028 troops, 138 guns, 162 vehicles, Assault Value = 260 Japanese adjusted assault: 379 Allied adjusted defense: 265 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 649 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 63 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled Allied ground losses: 792 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 39 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 18 (7 destroyed, 11 disabled) Vehicles lost 41 (20 destroyed, 21 disabled) Assaulting units: 144th Infantry Regiment 2nd Recon Regiment 38th Division 4th Infantry Regiment 5th Mortar Battalion 3rd Mortar Battalion 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Field Artillery Regiment 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 2nd Cav Recce Regiment 5th LH Motor Regiment 25th Cav Recce Regiment 16th LH MG Regiment 1st Australian Brigade 14th LH MG Regiment 16th Fld RAA Regiment 1st RAA Med Arty Regiment

Cap Mandrake -> RE: Trout Almondine (6/25/2015 4:38:34 AM)
up in the Jimas: Fresh Trout...M&M torpedoes. Sub attack near Hachijo-jima at 114,64 Japanese Ships CV Kaga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CA Kako CA Ashigara CA Chokai CA Takao CL Yubari CL Natori DD Asanagi DD Hayate Allied Ships SS Trout Ammo storage explosion on CV Kaga

Cap Mandrake -> RE: Trout Almondine (6/25/2015 4:39:20 AM)
The IJN was (were) already mad about Warspite. [:D]

Cap Mandrake -> RE: Trout Almondine (6/25/2015 4:50:14 AM)
Noumea: Hiei has another go at Noumea but is driven off by the PT boats. Night Time Surface Combat, near Noumea at 115,160, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Hiei CA Tone CL Sendai Allied Ships PT-44, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT-46 PT-47

Cap Mandrake -> RE: Trout Almondine (6/25/2015 4:51:03 AM)
No carrier air attacks. Warspite not attacked.

Lecivius -> RE: Trout Almondine (6/25/2015 3:15:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake up in the Jimas: Fresh Trout...M&M torpedoes. Sub attack near Hachijo-jima at 114,64 Japanese Ships CV Kaga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CA Kako CA Ashigara CA Chokai CA Takao CL Yubari CL Natori DD Asanagi DD Hayate Allied Ships SS Trout Ammo storage explosion on CV Kaga I can just see it. <Tired lookout port side bridge> Whatta all them bubbles in the ... BOOM

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/25/2015 4:20:35 PM)
I feel kinda bad for us sinking or damaging Jap carriers two days in a row.........yes..it's an odd warm feeling mixed with like.. remorse..like you bought something stupid like $400 boots that hurt your toes....OK......yes...over it now. I don't use the empathy center in the hypothalamus very much. I probably used up all the nerurotransmitters. I think I will go watch the combat replay to see the explosion.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/25/2015 4:24:34 PM)
Little Yellow Baahstards didn't show any quarter when they pursued our crippled carrier out of the Bismarck Sea, did they?[:D] I imagine this is how sentiments become hardened in the real thing.

desicat -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/25/2015 9:14:07 PM)
So it looks like the IJN may have suffered critical damage to as many as 5 CV's in the last two days, combine this with the USN losses up to this point and the attack capability of both sides has been crippled and it is only 02 Feb 42(e). Can you post a ships lost to this point screen?

warspite1 -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (6/25/2015 9:24:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake OK..watched the replay. Ryujo 5 hits from Warspite...numerous secondary explosions Zuiho 6 hits from Warspite..secondary explosions..reported sunk on intel screen Hiryu 3 hits from Warspite..at least one large secondary explosion..burning pretty good Soryu 1 hit from Warspite..no fire. Hiryu also suffered a collision at the start of the battle. On the combat replay Warspite seems to suffer only 1 torpedo hit??? warspite1 All in a day's work for the Grand Old Lady [:)] 1 torpedo hit? Bah, that's nothing to this old girl.....

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