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warshipbuilder -> RE: Allied aircraft issues at 1943 start (1/31/2015 7:25:03 PM)

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Conversion of Mk. V and IX into PR or, most likely, FR recon types. Numbers, timeframe and usage. The FR.XIV was a late 44 direct-production variant it seems.
I assume numbers are too low to be worth including so I may just adjust production of standard PR types.


28 Spitfire XIV's were field converted to FR XIV, they all ended up with 430 Sqn. RCAF. Oddly enough, 430 FRXIV's were purpose built.



HMSWarspite -> RE: Allied aircraft issues at 1943 start (1/31/2015 7:59:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Denniss

0532 - Spitfire VIII - modified Mk.V with more range and engines similar to Mk IX, upgrades to Spitfire Mk.XIVE


Er... not really. The VIII was meant to be the next definitive Mk to the V, with 2 stage blower, pressurized cockpit and numerous other enhancements. Unfortunately the FW190 started eating Vs in sweeps over France, and the VIII was lagging. The IX was cobbled together by putting a 2 stage blower Merlin in a modified V airframe (hence the first few being actually made by modifying Vs on the line. I thought the vast majority of VIII when to the Far East, with only a few to the Med?

Having said which, none of this effects the stats.

When are you going to unscramble the P47C etc?



Denniss -> RE: Allied aircraft issues at 1943 start (1/31/2015 9:00:36 PM)

The VIII comment was from my initial notes and never corrected. AFAIR the VI was to be pressurized, the VIII not. Although that might have changed during their long dev cycle.
At least the VIII offered a lot more range than the V and IX due to more fuel and better streamlined fuselage (434 vs ~660 miles at most economical).
ETO use of VIII will be something in the 30-40% range.

P-47?



HMSWarspite -> RE: Allied aircraft issues at 1943 start (1/31/2015 10:31:01 PM)

My comment at the beginning of the thread, about US being too far along the P47 line, and should be still in P47C at game start, and well in to the second half 43...



HMSWarspite -> RE: Allied aircraft issues at 1943 start (1/31/2015 10:33:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Denniss

The VIII comment was from my initial notes and never corrected. AFAIR the VI was to be pressurized, the VIII not. Although that might have changed during their long dev cycle.
At least the VIII offered a lot more range than the V and IX due to more fuel and better streamlined fuselage (434 vs ~660 miles at most economical).
ETO use of VIII will be something in the 30-40% range.

P-47?

Sorry, you are right about pressurisation (I got mixed up wth the VII). This site seems pretty good http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_spitfire_mkVIII.html



xwraith -> RE: Allied aircraft issues at 1943 start (1/31/2015 11:04:47 PM)

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Oddly enough, 430 FRXIV's were purpose built.


From digging through my source (Spitfire: The History by Shacklady & Morgan) its not so much that they were purpose built, as they are FXIV and FXIVE that had cameras installed, and then experienced modifications over time. From the specification:

"FR Mk XIV -- As for F Mk XIV except for -- cameras"
"FR Mk XIVE -- As for FR Mk XIV except for -- .5" machine guns"

From what I can see since these were all intended for low level work, hence why they retained their armament, and they were not fitted with the camera heating systems which would involve a more extensive conversion. Changes were added to the base type over time in stages: adding a bubble canopy, and then an extra 31 gallon fuel tank in the rear, clipped wings, and oblique cameras.



warshipbuilder -> RE: Allied aircraft issues at 1943 start (1/31/2015 11:13:11 PM)

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AFAIR the VI was to be pressurized, the VIII not.


Correct, the VI was the first pressurized version of the spit, and the VII the second and the VIII was the un-pressurized version of the VII. Some VI's were sent to the Med had their guns removed, an F8 camera installed and were used as recon aircraft over Crete and Greece. They were withdrawn from service in August 1943.



JeffroK -> RE: Allied aircraft issues at 1943 start (2/1/2015 7:37:13 AM)

Why are there so many Hurricane IIC available in game ??? Out of service in Europe it seems to be the preferred mount for most RAF FB Sqns????



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