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Qitbuqa -> Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 11:28:34 AM)

I had a rather weird happening with SUs getting attached to one of the units, that was created when breaking down 5th ID. Going to attach a screenshot.

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swkuh -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 12:02:50 PM)

Definitely weird! Number of allowed attachments, type of units, unit designations, and data overlays are wrong. Developers please note.



Qitbuqa -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 12:10:20 PM)

So I reformed 5th ID again and those SUs are still attached to the said ID. I won't return them to corps on this turn in order to check, maby they will go back to corps on their own after I choose to conclude my turn.

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morvael -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 12:15:53 PM)

I guess the breakdown unit could have taken a slot previously occupied by a HQ. Could you confirm that?



Qitbuqa -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 5:45:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: morvael

I guess the breakdown unit could have taken a slot previously occupied by a HQ. Could you confirm that?

I presume the bold number that is at a top right hand corner is the slot number, am I not correct? In case I'm correct, the V Corps is number 506. In case I'm not correct, I'd be glad to check it, if I can get a few hints on how to check what you were asking me to check.



morvael -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 5:58:49 PM)

Yes, unit on the first picture has id 515. It would be interesting to know at which point the SUs become attached to id 515. Did they appear exactly after split?



Qitbuqa -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 8:30:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: morvael

Yes, unit on the first picture has id 515. It would be interesting to know at which point the SUs become attached to id 515. Did they appear exactly after split?

Screenshot was taken at turn 6 just after the 5th ID was split into regiments.

If I recall correctly, same turn (or perhaps turn before that) I shifted various SUs between corps and armies. I can't recall the names of the exact SUs, perhaps these SUs somehow ended ub getting attached to that specific unit. What I can remember though, I didn't shift around AFV SUs at turn 6.

I can send you a save file of turn 7 from that PBEM and give my password, if that would be of any help.



morvael -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 8:50:21 PM)

Best would be a save from turn 5 and 6 and 7, so I could replicate the split. Send anything you have.



morvael -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 8:58:25 PM)

In scenario data I see slot 515 occupied by VI Corps and the SU you see attached to the division were attached to VI Corps. The question is what did happen to your VI Corps?



morvael -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 9:03:22 PM)

5th ID is from slot 507. 514 is free, 515 is occupied by VI Corps.
After split 1/5th remains 507, 2/5th takes 514 (first free), 3/5th takes 529 (second free).
Somehow in your case 3/5th ended up in slot 515, and the SU attached to VI Corps were still there, even though VI Corps was no more.
When I disbanded VI Corps its SU properly ended up in 3rd Panzer Group (parent HQ). So this is not because of disband.



morvael -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 9:12:22 PM)

Most important to determine is now what happened with VI Corps in your game.



Qitbuqa -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 10:34:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: morvael

Best would be a save from turn 5 and 6 and 7, so I could replicate the split. Send anything you have.

I've got only turn 7 before my moves which I've sent you just now. I've got both turns 5 and 6, but they are after I've ended my turn, so they are SHC moves. Are they of any use to you?



morvael -> RE: Possible SU glitch (1/3/2015 10:36:33 PM)

I got the save and know what is the problem. It's a smaller scenario and off-map units were not erased but changed to delay 999. Splitting units takes the slot of a delay 999 VI Corps, and the SUs attached to it (also with delay 999) show up in the list. We had similar issue with delay>250 SUs attached to cities always showing. I think in most cases those units do not take part in battles but just to be sure I will disallow splitting units to take slots occupied by delay>250 units.



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