Yakface -> Is this just massive over-reporting or is there a problem (1/30/2015 12:06:11 PM)
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How accurate are the ground combat portions of the combat report. I ask because of this: quote:
ORIGINAL: Yakface AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 21, 42 Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 94716 troops, 1755 guns, 629 vehicles, Assault Value = 2784 Defending force 43705 troops, 753 guns, 414 vehicles, Assault Value = 1376 Japanese adjusted assault: 3334 Allied adjusted defense: 2683 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 7451 casualties reported Squads: 46 destroyed, 760 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 74 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 87 disabled Guns lost 61 (5 destroyed, 56 disabled) Vehicles lost 24 (2 destroyed, 22 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1570 casualties reported Squads: 19 destroyed, 125 disabled Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 51 disabled Engineers: 35 destroyed, 9 disabled Guns lost 36 (7 destroyed, 29 disabled) Vehicles lost 38 (23 destroyed, 15 disabled) Assaulting units: 18th Division 16th Division Imperial Guards Division 8th Tank Regiment 38th Division 54th Division 2nd Tank Regiment 56th Division 48th Division 7th Tank Regiment 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 14th Army 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 2nd Mortar Battalion 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment The next day another attack - with the same units quote:
ORIGINAL: Yakface AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 22, 42 Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 83355 troops, 1650 guns, 588 vehicles, Assault Value = 2584 Defending force 41916 troops, 747 guns, 394 vehicles, Assault Value = 1233 Japanese adjusted assault: 2146 Allied adjusted defense: 4402 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 4411 casualties reported Squads: 17 destroyed, 342 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 73 disabled Guns lost 34 (1 destroyed, 33 disabled) Vehicles lost 18 (4 destroyed, 14 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2264 casualties reported Squads: 116 destroyed, 99 disabled Non Combat: 25 destroyed, 61 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 65 (37 destroyed, 28 disabled) Vehicles lost 16 (2 destroyed, 14 disabled) Assaulting units: 56th Division 48th Division 8th Tank Regiment 18th Division 16th Division 38th Division Imperial Guards Division 54th Division 2nd Tank Regiment 7th Tank Regiment 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 14th Army 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 2nd Mortar Battalion 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment I've always found the combat reports to be fairly accurate - declared AV in the hex to be within a few points and the casualties announced leading to the same sort of drop in the next turns AV in hex - within 10 or 20% However the combat on the 21st should have resulted in 800-850 AV drop if it is to be believed. The next attack came in with only a 200pt drop. I can believe some FOW but it seems to be over-reporting by a factor of 4. Watching the replay the 18th division seemed to get a good whack in the first battle (down to 0 AV), but on the second day it was one of the least damaged. I am wondering whether this is a sync issue? or is the result within FOW uncertainty? Would really appreciate the opinion of people who have played for a long time, with experience of these things. EDIT added the missing unit to the first days attack as pointed out by witpqs
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