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Warhorse -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/16/2015 11:09:03 PM)

BTW, the fix works great, it plays now, so cool!! So I take it the graphics won't be top down anymore if it is recreated? A shame, I made a ton of those graphics, simple, but I like the top down look! Does any one know if Alby, Redleg, Wild Bill are still around?



Riitaoja -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/17/2015 12:24:14 AM)

Nice to see some of the original SPWAW crew. I have enjoyed this game for at least 14 years now and hopefully I can play it for much longer. [:)] Thank you for your work Mike and I do like the top down 2D graphics.



Warhorse -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/17/2015 12:46:34 AM)

Thank you sir!! I'm glad you've had fun with it, I had a lot of good times helping out with it, we had a really good team! I'm sorry I haven't been over here in a long time, mostly play Campaign Series now, but just played some SPWAW tonight! Very excited that there is even talk of a new one, I hope it happens!



Riitaoja -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/17/2015 3:53:02 PM)

I just played around for fun with editing screenshots from the game. It's amazing how good the graphics in this game still look. Just adding in some extra effects with Paint.Net image editor and the results look quite nice I think.

Why not try and reuse the existing graphics for a remake instead of trying to build everything from scratch. Just create a new executable with modern code and use the existing art with some new effects. Just a thought...

[image]http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/51014/F63F72D874A8496FB12D13825A1AB375.jpg[/image]



Major_Mess -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/17/2015 4:34:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Warhorse

.... So I take it the graphics won't be top down anymore if it is recreated? ......



Wait .................... what?

Respectfully Mr. Warhorse - where in the Hell did you get that info??



cheers

MM



JEB Davis -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/17/2015 6:20:06 PM)

I think this is what we want, yes.
Along with some improvements to play.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Riitaoja
Why not try and reuse the existing graphics for a remake instead of trying to build everything from scratch. Just create a new executable with modern code and use the existing art with some new effects. Just a thought...



Warhorse -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/17/2015 8:38:06 PM)

@Major Mess-Don't quote me please! I only just started checking in here again, I thought I read yesterday somewhere on here about the graphics maybe going another type, like Panzer Corps or something, IF this ever happens![:D]

I too would like to see the original unit graphics used, top down is great, why change it! I'm currently working on the new Middle East game for Campaign Series, doing unit graphics, and while I like the 3/4 view, doing six different facings for each graphic is a real pain, the top down was great!!

Man, I hope this happens!!



Major_Mess -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/17/2015 8:54:47 PM)

No problems Warhorse [:)]
I thought something might have slipped by me, that's all.

I concur with you, top down perspective is all that's needed.


If I understand right, you're one of the original developers/programmers/worker bees of this fine game? Si?
That's cool that you're still around and still show the Love towards WaW.



cheers

MM



Warhorse -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/17/2015 9:02:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Major Mess

No problems Warhorse [:)]
I thought something might have slipped by me, that's all.

I concur with you, top down perspective is all that's needed.


If I understand right, you're one of the original developers/programmers/worker bees of this fine game? Si?
That's cool that you're still around and still show the Love towards WaW.



cheers

MM


Yes, we started it out from a game by Scott Grasse called Steel Thunder, in itself a mod based on Steel Panthers 3!! I mostly did graphics, but did quite a bit early on with the oob's. I started to make a Korean War Mod for it, but fizzled out when I got into the Campaign Series, so I made the mod for that, took seven years!

I'm thrilled at the amount of interest that still exists after all these years! I think I started with helping Matrix out back in '99, or earlier, the thingie on the profile says 2000, but I remember some problem, and they had to reset like a year or so, too long ago to remember!

I'm always grateful for David Heath to take me on, along with the rest of the team, I wonder ifd any are still about?



Mannock -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/21/2015 6:35:00 PM)

I love the Steel Panther series and I really hope there is a remake. Maybe Matrix could fund it via Kickstarter?

Anyway, what features to stick to:

In my opinion, stick to the original formula. Don't do anything crazy. Someone stated that there was talk about not having it top down. Please don't do that. Keep it the way it was way back when. I also enjoyed the Mega campaigns a lot, so I hope you will do them too.



JEB Davis -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (4/28/2015 2:20:23 AM)

quote:

What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers?

I would like to see an updated SP:WaW.



maitrebongo -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/12/2015 8:18:52 AM)

Hi,

Me too, and the kickstarter idea will be good to show Matrix we are numerous to hope this NEW steel Panthers games.



Riitaoja -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/24/2015 5:54:04 PM)

Just in case you have not noticed this yet:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3885806

quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Steel Tigers is what you have all been waiting for, no more details for now, but when we can share we will. [8D]



Steel Tigers is coming! [X(]



sami heimola -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/25/2015 12:57:11 PM)

What's next game after that? Steel Lions[:'(]? Anyway, no matter what name it is[;)]...



budd -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/26/2015 1:03:05 AM)

Pretty much played SP for 10 straight years, it's what brought me to Matrix a very long time ago, but haven't played in a long time.I didn't read the whole thread don't know if this has been mentioned, a better LOS calculation please, i hated that AI spin move seemed like there was no point to maneuver for a flank or rear shot on basically any unit. The rest i defer to others that have kept playing all these years. I do hope they keep the top down graphics, seems like with all the OOB work people have done over the years it should cut down on that part of the work. Somebody get a hold of Wild Bill[:)]



wodin -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/26/2015 3:39:55 AM)

I'd be more optimistic if 2by3 was making the game engine to be honest. It sounds as if Slitherine are making an engine one size fits all kind of thing.

Still I want top down graphics, WEGO\ Simulation turns (this should be the major new feature for SP\Tactical wargame made by 2by3, I also want squad size units and individual vehicles. Campaigns, dynamic weather, detailed damage model, multi story buildings, Cellars, Fortified buildings, sewers, be able to breach walls, leaders, detailed AAR's, award\medal mechanic, detailed unit stats, huge selection of vehicles and weapons, a good close combat mechanic, air support, off map Arty, Counter Battery, well made maps with decent amount of terrain features like walls both high and low, raised railway embankments, ravines, variety of crops and different heights depending on season etc etc, maybe get rid of hexes and use pixel movement this would help solve oddities with regards to terrain abstraction , high level command for very big scenarios so you can give orders to platoon or even company, good selection of SOP's, a good choice of FOW settings\options upto friendly FOW, AI Allies and finally a great TAC AI.



Major_Mess -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/26/2015 4:23:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

I'd be more optimistic if 2by3 was making the game engine to be honest. It sounds as if Slitherine are making an engine one size fits all kind of thing.

Still I want top down graphics, WEGO\ Simulation turns (this should be the major new feature for SP\Tactical wargame made by 2by3, I also want squad size units and individual vehicles. Campaigns, dynamic weather, detailed damage model, multi story buildings, Cellars, Fortified buildings, sewers, be able to breach walls, leaders, detailed AAR's, award\medal mechanic, detailed unit stats, huge selection of vehicles and weapons, a good close combat mechanic, air support, off map Arty, Counter Battery, well made maps with decent amount of terrain features like walls both high and low, raised railway embankments, ravines, variety of crops and different heights depending on season etc etc, maybe get rid of hexes and use pixel movement this would help solve oddities with regards to terrain abstraction , high level command for very big scenarios so you can give orders to platoon or even company, good selection of SOP's, a good choice of FOW settings\options upto friendly FOW, AI Allies and finally a great TAC AI.



This





MM



Erik Rutins -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/26/2015 4:47:21 PM)

The way to look at this is that it's a full court, full company press. We are giving this our all and giving Gary and Joel every bit of support we can to make this as great as we possibly can. IMHO that's great news for all SP fans. [8D]

Regards,

- Erik



Warhorse -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/26/2015 9:05:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

The way to look at this is that it's a full court, full company press. We are giving this our all and giving Gary and Joel every bit of support we can to make this as great as we possibly can. IMHO that's great news for all SP fans. [8D]

Regards,

- Erik


I agree, Erik, especially since WAW is just pissing me off lately with little problems here and there! Glad to hear something is in the works!



wodin -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/27/2015 10:27:16 AM)

Good news..can't wait to see some more info on features.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

The way to look at this is that it's a full court, full company press. We are giving this our all and giving Gary and Joel every bit of support we can to make this as great as we possibly can. IMHO that's great news for all SP fans. [8D]

Regards,

- Erik





Riitaoja -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/27/2015 11:14:43 AM)

Well we have the original designers of Steel Panthers and the founder of SSI making a new Steel Panthers game so I dont think we need to worry. [sm=Tank-fahr09.gif][sm=00000436.gif]



sami heimola -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/27/2015 11:51:41 AM)

Hmm now we could to speculate is it only WW2-based or maybe WW2->modern times game (like SP3)[:'(] ...



Warhorse -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/27/2015 11:57:29 AM)

Hmmm indeed!![:D]



Falcon1 -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/28/2015 5:41:55 AM)

To be a true spiritual successor it will have to be extremely flexible as far as modability and scenario design, just like SPWAW and TOAW3 are. And it must be turn based and the same scale, no "real time" stuff.



wodin -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (6/28/2015 6:04:21 AM)

OK just read that the STUB engine i.e Battle Academy is the basis of the new Archon engine that will be used for Steel Tigers....make your own conclusions.

From Pip over at Slitherine

"We are continuing to support the STUB engine going forward, and it is the basis for the new Archon engine too.

Cheers

Pip"



Freyr Oakenshield -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (7/19/2015 6:05:51 PM)

a "window mode/full screen" setting + make it more compatible with present-day large monitor screens...



Alby -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (8/23/2015 3:43:21 AM)

wow a lot of familiar faces in this thread lol



sami heimola -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (9/23/2015 12:02:48 PM)

Hmm is "volume knob/meter" mentioned yet? It's pity that SPWAW had no any volume knob/meter thing for those players who like to listen mp3 etc. music during playing[8|]... Anyone agree?



Alby -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (9/23/2015 4:05:36 PM)

There is options to turn off music and sounds



sami heimola -> RE: What would you like to see in a new Steel Panthers? (9/24/2015 12:23:47 PM)

Alby, yes I know but if I would like to listening music (mp3 files for example) during game, SPWAW sounds will "cover" music quite effective way because loss of any volume knob... And I like to hear both at same time (but SPWAW's sounds bit lower if any way possible in background).



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