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Tomcat84 -> RE: Request: GBU drop altitude (2/19/2015 9:52:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: hellfish6

Can you buddy laze if the aircraft dropping the weapon is in the clouds?


Sure! If you have a suitable designator.

Here we have moderate clouds 7-16k ft, light high clouds 27-30k.

F-16C is in the high light cloud layer, MQ-1 is below the lowest layer.

MQ-1 lases in the GBU-12 no problem. Remove the MQ-1 and the plane will say no director available and unable to drop.

[image]http://bmetz2.home.xs4all.nl/images/command/buddylase.jpg[/image]



jarraya -> RE: Request: GBU drop altitude (2/19/2015 9:53:01 AM)

Mike,
I'm not sure if your message was directed at me. I hope not.

I was trying to find a way to look at the entire list of GBUs (not individually) so I could identify which ones have a high drop altitude. Then I planned on letting the DB guys know which ones need changing and therefore save them time from having to go and look at every single GBU - I thought I'd help.

Anyway, I don't know why things get so out of hand.



mikmykWS -> RE: Request: GBU drop altitude (2/19/2015 10:04:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jarraya

Mike,
I'm not sure if your message was directed at me. I hope not.

I was trying to find a way to look at the entire list of GBUs (not individually) so I could identify which ones have a high drop altitude. Then I planned on letting the DB guys know which ones need changing and therefore save them time from having to go and look at every single GBU - I thought I'd help.

Anyway, I don't know why things get so out of hand.


Yes it is directed at you.

I am one of the DB guys[:)]

Your up to no good again and it needs to stop. You're wasting time out of a small pool we have to give with these stupid ploys and antics to annoy the crap out of us. You do know people can recognize when you're being passive aggressive right?

If you don't like it we're more than willing to support you through email.

Thanks

Mike



dusky -> RE: Request: GBU drop altitude (2/19/2015 11:32:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mikmyk
You could of also found it in the database viewer or Baloogan's website. Both have been available for a long time.

I believe we fixed your reported bugs in the released build so what exactly are you so angry about enough to spend time doing this?

Mike

[&:] I'm not angry at all. I do not even think there is any problem with GBUs. I know the information is available in the DB viewer and on Baloogan's website. However, there is no easy way to quickly select all GBUs with a specific property (launch altitude less than 3048) -- you need to check the weapons manually.
I saw that jarraya actually tried to do this work:
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ORIGINAL: jarraya
Baloogan is it possible to get an export from your DB for all the GBUs? I've manually gone through most of them and the majority have a 3048m drop altitude.

so, I just provided the data he asked for. That's it, no bad feelings, I was just answering jarraya's questions and tried to point him to a tool he can use to filter the data himself. (and now I think I even misunderstood the request, he wanted to list the GBUs with launch altitude equal or higher than 3048, not lower.)



jarraya -> RE: Request: GBU drop altitude (2/19/2015 12:41:24 PM)

Thanks Dusky, that's exactly what happened.

I've agreed with Mike to stay clear of the forum which is probably best. I enjoy the game and don't want to cause any problems.



Primarchx -> RE: Request: GBU drop altitude (2/19/2015 12:59:17 PM)

I know what Hellfish means about the cloud deck & min drop issue, as I've run into it, too, though buddy lasing works. As I recall these issues weren't implemented when I wrote the Fighter Weapons School - Ground Attack Tactics GAT 5 & 6 scenario.

I would use lower-level releases to use terrain masking more effectively or (as above) drop below obscuring clouds to attack. As it stands now I can fly aircraft at NOE near the target but then have to make a big pop up to 10k' to drop my LGB (less so with Paveway III), potentially exposing aircraft to air defenses that couldn't see it before.

Mike, GPS weapons are not always the answer, either, as many of them can't engage mobile targets.

For now I just adapt, no big deal. The dev team now knows more about the issue and have proven themselves responsive and resourceful to finding solutions to these kinds of things.



mikmykWS -> RE: Request: GBU drop altitude (2/19/2015 1:17:42 PM)

I didn't ask you to take a break. I just asked you to cut out the annoying stuff. You suggested the break and I thought it might be a good idea. Your final response though was that you were going to post bug reports and files which doesn't sound like take a break at all.
This is not the tale you're telling Dusan[:)] Instead you kind of make it sound like I showed you the door which is the not the case[:-]

Thanks!

Mike



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