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Rysyonok -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/3/2015 6:58:14 PM)

Here's the KB Typhoon "Java":

[image]local://upfiles/19087/838FCDF7C02B4E3BADB6418932269860.jpg[/image]



BBfanboy -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/3/2015 7:05:20 PM)

With KB confirmed at Java, your two CVs near Midway should take on whatever that TF is approaching from the SW of it. Could be an amphib reinforcement convoy. I hope you have at least a couple of cruisers escorting your CVs in case they bump into something during the night.



HansBolter -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/3/2015 7:45:41 PM)

On the wiping out of the Dutch and British Malaya air forces I can add this:

All I use those air forces for in the first six months is defensive CAP.

Sending the bombers after IJN ships is a waste of planes and pilots.

Regardless of the desire to "strike back with anything I can" that overwhelms an Allied player as he is getting steamroilled, it is best to resist the temptation.

The key to hitting anything with those bombers is training, training and more training.

After 6-9 months of training the Dutch bomber pilots actually start hitting things.

The key to keeping them alive that long is relocating to an island base that must be hit from the sea like Timor rather than being overrun from land like Java (after landing at one of the bases you don't have enough troops to defend).

However, setting up a bastion Timor can easily break the AI.

I agree with BBfanboy. With KB busy you 'should" have a free run at the TF headed to Midway.

"Should" means that in an IronMan scenario there may be a mini-KB escorting it.



Rysyonok -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/3/2015 8:37:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

With KB confirmed at Java, your two CVs near Midway should take on whatever that TF is approaching from the SW of it. Could be an amphib reinforcement convoy. I hope you have at least a couple of cruisers escorting your CVs in case they bump into something during the night.


Tried :)

They escaped.



Rysyonok -> 1/24/1942 (3/3/2015 8:40:50 PM)

1/24/1942:

Singapore falls. I was planning for a long siege, saving up supplies, while I should have been building forts. It would have helped to pull back as many men as possible into the city, because now I have 2 pockets with British soldiers that have nothing but starvation in their near future.

[image]local://upfiles/19087/73E982ACECDC428EBE2FF556D0E49667.jpg[/image]



Rysyonok -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/3/2015 8:44:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

On the wiping out of the Dutch and British Malaya air forces I can add this:

All I use those air forces for in the first six months is defensive CAP.

Sending the bombers after IJN ships is a waste of planes and pilots.

Regardless of the desire to "strike back with anything I can" that overwhelms an Allied player as he is getting steamroilled, it is best to resist the temptation.

The key to hitting anything with those bombers is training, training and more training.

After 6-9 months of training the Dutch bomber pilots actually start hitting things.

The key to keeping them alive that long is relocating to an island base that must be hit from the sea like Timor rather than being overrun from land like Java (after landing at one of the bases you don't have enough troops to defend).

However, setting up a bastion Timor can easily break the AI.

I agree with BBfanboy. With KB busy you 'should" have a free run at the TF headed to Midway.

"Should" means that in an IronMan scenario there may be a mini-KB escorting it.


I have counted at least 4 KBs by now. 2 in DEI, one by New Guinea, one by the Philippines. I am starting to see air strikes of 87 zeroes and 78 betties.

Dutch airforce did try to stay out of the fight, but when IJN landed at Makassar and staged betties there, tables have turned. Dutch airfields got quickly pounded to dust despite 100 defensive CAP. At this point in time I might as well disband them all, and if there is still somewhere to come back to in 120 days, they will...



Lowpe -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/3/2015 8:49:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rysyonok

I have counted at least 4 KBs by now. 2 in DEI,



Watch out for normal advice! You are in a different world now.[:D]

You have no idea of the forces arrayed against you! Evil laugh!!!![:D][:D][:D]

PS: I keep waiting for a certain event to happen...can't wait.



HansBolter -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/3/2015 8:57:26 PM)

That's just diabolical Lowpe.

But in the interest of OpSec I won't give it away.



Rysyonok -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/3/2015 10:16:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

That's just diabolical Lowpe.

But in the interest of OpSec I won't give it away.


At least there is only one event, the way you two sound... ;)



BBfanboy -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/4/2015 12:42:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

That's just diabolical Lowpe.

But in the interest of OpSec I won't give it away.

What?!
The Emperor's birthday is a secret???
No problem - I drink sake every day so I not miss it! [sm=party-smiley-012.gif]



Rysyonok -> 1/28/1942 (3/4/2015 2:16:16 AM)

1/28/1942:

Port Moresby falls. I guess it's for the best that I did not try to reinforce it: as many as 6 IJN TFs went for it.

While RNN only managed a single minelaying run per CM, the little that was placed does bear fruit. Another Mogami-class CA and a Againo-class CL got clipped.

[image]local://upfiles/19087/77A95F71E15C4CF2B7CFEC7846040169.jpg[/image]

Dutch airforce on the other hand is not even trying to take off anymore, losing planes on the ground.

USN sends a reinforcement convoy to Midway, and RN - to Port Blair despite unquestionable IJA air supremacy in the area. In the meantime, IJA troops reach outskirts of Pegu, crossing the river.



Rysyonok -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/4/2015 2:17:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
What?!
The Emperor's birthday is a secret???
No problem - I drink sake every day so I not miss it! [sm=party-smiley-012.gif]


So what's so special about his birthday? :)



BBfanboy -> RE: 1/20/1942 (3/4/2015 4:54:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rysyonok

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
What?!
The Emperor's birthday is a secret???
No problem - I drink sake every day so I not miss it! [sm=party-smiley-012.gif]


So what's so special about his birthday? :)

No idea, but if Lowpe is waiting for a 'special event' to happen I figure it must be significant, so it's an excuse to have a drink!



HansBolter -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 12:16:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rysyonok

quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter
After mastering 10 I played 30 and it was a definite step up.

However, about that time I gave DaBabes a try and have been forever hooked.

The Babes mod is being developed by some of the games developers and at least in my mind represents the next generation of the game.

They tweaked quite a few things, but most of all they completely revamped the LCUs such that I can't bring myself to go back to a stock game.

Babes has a scenario titled IronBabes, but it is not an IronMan scenario. It is the Babes version of scenario 2.

I pestered AndyMac until he finally ported his IronMan scenario over to Babes. I think it's called "Quick and Dirty IronMan port to Babes" (now that I think of it this may be scenario 30...can never keep the numbers straight).

I haven't actually started it yet as I am currently playing a new scenario based on Babes called Between the Storms.

It isn't set up for solo play but I'm playing it anyway to have fun with all the new toys added to it and playtest bugfinding for the scenario developer John3rd.

Scenario 60 I haven't tried yet, but hear that AndyMac outdid himself on aggressive scripts for an overpowered AI.


Do you have any AARs I can look at?

I did see Babes' links, but I didn't want to play them just yet. I want to master basic landings before I start getting into details...




I have only ever produced one AAR and that was for another game I was beta testing.

It was a tactical game series with the most incredible AI in any game I have ever encountered.

The designer is Panther Games which used to be linked with Matrix, but they have moved to another publisher.

My AAR is now buried in the discontinued games forum under Command Ops Series.

It was an AAR of a scenario depicting KampGruppe Pieper's drive to the Meuse in the Battle of the Bulge.

Here is a link in case you might be curious:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1450882

Best tactical games series I have ever found and don't have time to play anymore....



Lowpe -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 1:08:17 PM)

Of course there is more than one event, AndyMac wrote a gem here, but there is one particular event and the first time it shows up you realize you are not in Kansas anymore.[:D]

In addition, I believe there are 5 major AI offensives that the AI can pick from and of course I have no idea what you have...probably have to wait until April 42 to start getting a picture on that.

Fasten your seatbelt you are in for a bumpy ride!

PS: Be careful with Allied mines...that seems to be something the AI doesn't handle well. It is good at including sweepers with amphib invasions, but when you drop mines at choke points not so well.








HansBolter -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 1:54:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Of course there is more than one event, AndyMac wrote a gem here, but there is one particular event and the first time it shows up you realize you are not in Kansas anymore.[:D]

In addition, I believe there are 5 major AI offensives that the AI can pick from and of course I have no idea what you have...probably have to wait until April 42 to start getting a picture on that.

Fasten your seatbelt you are in for a bumpy ride!

PS: Be careful with Allied mines...that seems to be something the AI doesn't handle well. It is good at including sweepers with amphib invasions, but when you drop mines at choke points not so well.




Very true.

I used to mine both sides of the straits between Java and Sumatra and since the AI likes to circle Java with it's CV TFs it was just too easy a way to devastate the IJN in the DEI.

I no longer do this.



Rysyonok -> 2/5/1942 (3/4/2015 2:31:29 PM)

2/5/1942:

This was a double turn, a kind that keeps you on the edge of your seat, and you just cannot wait to see how a battle would turn out.

Port Blair has an Air HQ, 4 AA regiments, and 29K of supply, but the price has been more than steep. Both RN CVs get thrown into the battle just to draw enemy planes away from transports. It helps, but even their CAP gets exhausted. 16 planes do not come back, flight decks of Indomitable are in shambles. This is likely the only action those ships are going to see for a few months, about to be reclassified as airplane transports.

[image]local://upfiles/19087/64C2068D4908419EA48E78B00696B32D.jpg[/image]

What this does not show, is that while transports were of the cheapest kind, the ships were all the ones with the highest AAA values west of Pearl Harbor.

It is nice to see AI react quickly to opportunities. After the first wave of Betties loses 7 to my CV aircraft, the next raid is accompanied by 50+ Oscars, and the party is over.

Multiple landings in Java and in Palembang. Merak falls. Dutch airforce plays a game of hopscotch, trying to operate from whatever patch of dirt they can find, but with no success.

IJA troops have reached the river SE of Pegu. Despite inferior odds, they are inflicting superior casualties on my defenders. As I am clearly unable to get any more supply to Burma, their surrender is only a matter of days now.



Rysyonok -> Sit Taung (3/4/2015 2:41:55 PM)

It is amazing how curious does WitP make you about all the little spots in the Pacific one would have never thought of before...

Here's Sit Taung, the defense line of BFF brigade and 1st Burma Division:

[image]local://upfiles/19087/189D236DEA664F389D8FC4F977DE043F.jpg[/image]



Rysyonok -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 2:47:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

I used to mine both sides of the straits between Java and Sumatra and since the AI likes to circle Java with it's CV TFs it was just too easy a way to devastate the IJN in the DEI.

I no longer do this.



Where did you rearm your CMs? After the initial run I had to pull them back to Colombo, as neither Batavia nor Soerabaja were able to assist.



Rysyonok -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 2:48:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Of course there is more than one event, AndyMac wrote a gem here, but there is one particular event and the first time it shows up you realize you are not in Kansas anymore.[:D]

In addition, I believe there are 5 major AI offensives that the AI can pick from and of course I have no idea what you have...probably have to wait until April 42 to start getting a picture on that.

Fasten your seatbelt you are in for a bumpy ride!

PS: Be careful with Allied mines...that seems to be something the AI doesn't handle well. It is good at including sweepers with amphib invasions, but when you drop mines at choke points not so well.


Just 5? Why, that's so much better than the 13 scripts I thought there were... ;)



Rysyonok -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 2:49:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rysyonok

quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter
After mastering 10 I played 30 and it was a definite step up.

However, about that time I gave DaBabes a try and have been forever hooked.

The Babes mod is being developed by some of the games developers and at least in my mind represents the next generation of the game.

They tweaked quite a few things, but most of all they completely revamped the LCUs such that I can't bring myself to go back to a stock game.

Babes has a scenario titled IronBabes, but it is not an IronMan scenario. It is the Babes version of scenario 2.

I pestered AndyMac until he finally ported his IronMan scenario over to Babes. I think it's called "Quick and Dirty IronMan port to Babes" (now that I think of it this may be scenario 30...can never keep the numbers straight).

I haven't actually started it yet as I am currently playing a new scenario based on Babes called Between the Storms.

It isn't set up for solo play but I'm playing it anyway to have fun with all the new toys added to it and playtest bugfinding for the scenario developer John3rd.

Scenario 60 I haven't tried yet, but hear that AndyMac outdid himself on aggressive scripts for an overpowered AI.


Do you have any AARs I can look at?

I did see Babes' links, but I didn't want to play them just yet. I want to master basic landings before I start getting into details...




I have only ever produced one AAR and that was for another game I was beta testing.

It was a tactical game series with the most incredible AI in any game I have ever encountered.

The designer is Panther Games which used to be linked with Matrix, but they have moved to another publisher.

My AAR is now buried in the discontinued games forum under Command Ops Series.

It was an AAR of a scenario depicting KampGruppe Pieper's drive to the Meuse in the Battle of the Bulge.

Here is a link in case you might be curious:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1450882

Best tactical games series I have ever found and don't have time to play anymore....



Thanks :)



Rysyonok -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 2:55:46 PM)

So, two months into the war, it appears that serving on a submarine is a very dangerous posting indeed...

[image]local://upfiles/19087/8DD1ACD669264DFF8FCE9A306DE50C85.jpg[/image]



Rysyonok -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 3:02:14 PM)

But, of course, nothing can match the thrill of piloting a Buffalo I:

[image]local://upfiles/19087/4B8F47374A044B8C8BCB542E22D96055.jpg[/image]



Rysyonok -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 3:06:11 PM)

The saviors of Port Blair (note that squads were resized just before the battle):

[image]local://upfiles/19087/9065108E7E734E2BB49D43987ED737B2.jpg[/image]



Rysyonok -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 3:08:42 PM)

880th squadron prepares to take off for the mission none of them will come back from unscathed:

[image]local://upfiles/19087/672A3FEFFC9E44A8B278840A57FDCA6D.jpg[/image]



Lowpe -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 4:07:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rysyonok
Just 5? Why, that's so much better than the 13 scripts I thought there were... ;)


There could be 13. I think the point is that you can't count on the AI doing the same thing over and over again.



BBfanboy -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 4:30:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rysyonok
Just 5? Why, that's so much better than the 13 scripts I thought there were... ;)


There could be 13. I think the point is that you can't count on the AI doing the same thing over and over again.


The stock release has 13 scripts. The Ironman on Steroids releases could have only five scripts, since the start point is already high on the aggressive side.



Lowpe -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 4:31:19 PM)

A cruiser and two CLs! Ouch...Boise...gone. Double ouch.

You have paid a steep price for Port Blair! Some of the British xaps will convert very early into landing ships of some type...get them somewhere safe as they are quite valuable. In fact there are a lot of interesting conversions out there on the western half of the world.







Lowpe -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 4:37:06 PM)

Could I see a couple of screen shots of sunk Allied ships...sort by VP total. Thanks!



Rysyonok -> RE: 12/27/1941 (3/4/2015 4:37:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

A cruiser and two CLs! Ouch...Boise...gone. Double ouch.

You have paid a steep price for Port Blair! Some of the British xaps will convert very early into landing ships of some type...get them somewhere safe as they are quite valuable. In fact there are a lot of interesting conversions out there on the western half of the world.


The battle is not yet over. That transport TF still has 33 ships, and is still at Port Blair. I wonder if I should detach all the combat ships and just leave transports to scramble for themselves.



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