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Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 12:12:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Not $500, no, if you need a CPU and a graphics card and RAM all three. For sure under $1000 if you want mid-range on those three, especially the graphics. Probably even $750. But if you buy a CPU and new RAM you almost certainly want a new mobo too. If it goes it can take your new CPU or RAM with it.

If you need a tower and power supply add a couple hundred there. I would pop for a full sized tower as Jocke says. So much more room for air and extra components. And they last a long, long time.

Didn't know about the failing motherboard possibly frying the CPU and RAM! My thought has always been that it makes no sense to buy great modern RAM and CPU and then throttle its performance by sticking it on an old mobo with limited clock speed and paths. If I were forced by budget to choose which components to get, I would get a good motherboard first.


Probably better to say a failing mobo will allow the power supply to fry the others.




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 5:59:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I spent 12 years as Electronics Tech in USN and civilian life, so the actual assembly shouldn't be difficult for me. Is it realistic to get everything for around $500? If so, we may need a separate threat on building your own computer. Should I still wait to Cyber Monday to get the components? I haven't been an ET since '92. [X(]


It depends on what you plan on buying. But as Bull says I think 750-1000 is more realistic. I went back and looked at my own last upgrade. I found a good deal on a package with a mid range MB, RAM and CPU. Cost me around 550 USD. Then you have to add GFX card, tower and most likely power supply.

Todays components (especially GFX card) eats a tremendous amount of wattage. Had to ditch my Hiper 580 Watt in my last upgrade. Now running on a 800 Watt one which give me some room to maneuver. [:)]

Donīt buy the latest stuff. Not worth the money. Iīm running a pretty old rig now (Quad 3,4GHz Intel CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, ASUS 560Ti GFX card) and I have no problem running stuff on a decent setting. My last update was 3,5 years ago and I think I can get by for another years or so.

My personal advice would also be to go for at least 1-2 SSD disks. I have two. One running Windows and one running all my games. You canīt compare the speed with a conventional disc. Its breathtakingly fast. From the moment I press the power button to windows is completely loaded is around 20 seconds. And its completely silent! [&o]

When you look for a GFX card I would go a generation older then the newest one. Buy one of the better cards in that generation rather then the cheapest one in the latest generation.

I usually spend 1-2 weeks just reading up on everything that has changed since I last bought stuff and another day or two finding where they are cheapest to order from. Its well worth taking the time to read up on everything and what works well and not. Google is your friend! [:)]




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 7:33:19 AM)

May 19th
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Got a lot of "behind the scenes" work done.

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NORPAC
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Jeff resumes the bombing hitting the airfield (mistake?) at Seattle. I think he has given up one this. With 90% of his bombers in China he doesnīt have enough bombers to make this work.

Not calling it a failure yet but I donīt see how he can turn this into something positive VP wise.

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SOPAC
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Iīve decided to take a little bit of a gamble here. Reinforcing Noumea and Suva. More mines and CD guns are on their way. Pago Pago will have to do with what it has. Noumea will get a full Ozzy ID I bought out a while back while Suva will get some more armor and the 1st Marines. Both places have some arty, AA, armor and level 4 forts (closing on 5).

If Jeff comes it should buy me enough time to reinforce even further hopefully stopping him. 40 subs are upgraded with radar and if the KB shows up Iīll try to swarm it with subs. I also have lots and lots of P39s down here and I know from experience that the Zero really struggles to down them.

If he comes Iīll fight. [sm=00000028.gif]

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Preparing my counter attack here. Mostly waiting for the armored BDEs to upgrade to Valentines and Jeff to move deeper into India. Went through IM this morning and I have confirmation on 3 Japanese IDs. So at an absolute most I would say he has 6 IDs. That is nowhere near enough to pose a credible threat to India. He is also maneuvering very aggressively here not covering his flank toward Calcutta which I hope to exploit shortly.

It will be a 4 ID counter attack backed up by loads of AA and artillery + 200 tanks. If it goes down the drain I can always retreat to Calcutta and UH + level 7 forts.

With MKB and KB in CENTPAC I can also start using the navy a lot more aggressively here.

Lets do this! Time to start hitting back! [sm=00000028.gif]



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ny59giants -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 10:44:55 AM)

AA Bde - The one that comes in at Colombo would go with my lead counterattack stack.

SeaBee power!! [:D] - You go from not enough for first six months to swimming in them over the next four months. These are going to help in SoPac and India very soon. Something JFB don't realize enough unless they play the Allies every once in while.

O19 & 20 - If these two Dutch minelaying subs survived, time to go further down Strait of Malacca to lay some mines. [;)]

SBDs - Hope at least 4 groups are headed to India. Looks like you could use them at Chittagong.

OT - Thanks for computer advice. [&o]




zuluhour -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 12:07:16 PM)

what a rack! [:D]




Lokasenna -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 3:04:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Not $500, no, if you need a CPU and a graphics card and RAM all three. For sure under $1000 if you want mid-range on those three, especially the graphics. Probably even $750. But if you buy a CPU and new RAM you almost certainly want a new mobo too. If it goes it can take your new CPU or RAM with it.

If you need a tower and power supply add a couple hundred there. I would pop for a full sized tower as Jocke says. So much more room for air and extra components. And they last a long, long time.


I wouldn't be concerned about motherboard failure from age - it'll either fail during its useful lifetime or it won't. In my experience, mobo failures happen sooner rather than later. If it hasn't failed by now, it likely won't.

I do recommend getting a new one if you are significantly upgrading your machine, however. It's likely that at 5+ years old your existing motherboard will not be able to fully support any/all of your new CPU, RAM, or video components and may cause a bottleneck in performance. Motherboards are relatively cheap.

When I upgrade, I typically buy models that are a year old or so. I think last time I spent $600 to upgrade CPU, RAM, video, and mobo. I usually look for a video card in the 200-250 range, and CPU in the 75-150 range. Mobo then tends to run 70-125, and RAM usually about 100. If I were upgrading right now, I'd shoot for the 200-250 video card, 75-150 for the CPU, and then get 16GB of RAM in 4x4GB sticks. I would then have to make sure that the mobo would support 4x4GB chips, but that would be my main requirement for it.

I also always buy an aftermarket heatsink and fan for the CPU. The stock ones just aren't worth anything unless you're running the computer for office use only. For any kind of gaming, get a Zalman or CoolerMaster aftermarket model. It costs about $50, but it's very worth it.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Not $500, no, if you need a CPU and a graphics card and RAM all three. For sure under $1000 if you want mid-range on those three, especially the graphics. Probably even $750. But if you buy a CPU and new RAM you almost certainly want a new mobo too. If it goes it can take your new CPU or RAM with it.

If you need a tower and power supply add a couple hundred there. I would pop for a full sized tower as Jocke says. So much more room for air and extra components. And they last a long, long time.

Didn't know about the failing motherboard possibly frying the CPU and RAM! My thought has always been that it makes no sense to buy great modern RAM and CPU and then throttle its performance by sticking it on an old mobo with limited clock speed and paths. If I were forced by budget to choose which components to get, I would get a good motherboard first.


Any kind of motherboard or PSU failure (or hiccups...) can cause frying. I've had a motherboard kill a RAM stick before when the slot it was in was damaged from undue pressure on the RAM stick from the CPU heat sink.




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 6:56:29 PM)

Some action this turn but Iīm feeling quite sick so the update will have to wait for tomorrow. Mostly bad news too! [:(]




BBfanboy -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 7:03:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Some action this turn but Iīm feeling quite sick so the update will have to wait for tomorrow. Mostly bad news too! [:(]


You are getting sick a lot - better stop hanging out with sick people and your own little germ incubators!
By no means should you stop playing WITP-AE and get some sleep! [;)]




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/1/2015 7:22:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Some action this turn but Iīm feeling quite sick so the update will have to wait for tomorrow. Mostly bad news too! [:(]



So, what were you for Halloween? And how late did the party go? [8D]




Lokasenna -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/2/2015 3:22:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Some action this turn but Iīm feeling quite sick so the update will have to wait for tomorrow. Mostly bad news too! [:(]



So, what were you for Halloween? And how late did the party go? [8D]


Sounds like it went pretty late, and he might have been a whiskey receptacle...




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/2/2015 4:07:52 AM)

Sorry guys. Most families in Sweden doesnīt do Halloween. [:'(] Its called "all saints day" here and we visit the graves of our relatives to light candles.




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/2/2015 4:39:43 AM)

May 22nd
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Home sick today. So if you have any questions of want screens let me know.

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Recon noticed there were 60 bombers and no fighters present at Allford Bay. Thought Iīd let the B17s go to work. Sadly in turns out the opposite was true. No bombers and lots of fighters. Bloody day in the air. We do well shooting down 37 Oscars and Zeroes for 20 own losses. Good but not good enough.

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Morning Air attack on Alliford Bay , at 199,46

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 32


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed


A coordinated sweep. That is only the 2nd or 3rd time Iīve seen it. Think its a bug though as only 1 squadron seems to participate in combat.

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Morning Air attack on Alliford Bay , at 199,46

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 68

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed


This makes a huge dent in my fighter pool and Iīm now down to only 18 Warhawks. No Japanese bombings today.

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SOPAC/OZ
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Jeff bombs Cairns hitting the resources there. I wonder if this is Jeffs next target? Oz rather then SOPAC? Interesting. SIGINT is still quiet.

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India
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Jeff moves his main stack towards Calcutta while smaller units head North. Iīll let him do that as Iīll focus on his main stack.
-17 units 44k troops, 565 guns and 200 AFVs spotted. Not sure what to make of it? 1 ID with lots of smaller units?

Iīve started hunting Japanese subs more aggressively in the Bay of Bengal. Managed to nail one. [:)]

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Submarine attack near Jaffna at 34,44

Japanese Ships
SS I-122, hits 10, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DE Starling
PG Lawrence
PG Clive


SS I-122 is located by DE Starling
DE Starling attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-122 forced to surface!
DE Starling firing on surfaced sub ....
PG Lawrence firing on surfaced sub ....
PG Clive firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Starling firing on surfaced sub ....
PG Lawrence firing on surfaced sub ....
PG Clive firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves


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China
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Big problems here as the Ankang roadblock falls in the first attack. The "overstacking snowball" have now started rolling and Iīm not sure it will stop somewhere. The first retreat overstacked the next place which burned all supply. This meant the next roadblock also fell (due to lack of supply) and now all those troops retreated to Ankang which is now MASSIVELY overstacked (as two hexes has been pushed here) and all supply was instantly burned up. So now Ankang will fall in the first attack.

This will most likely continue until Jeff stops (which he wonīt). The snowball will just grow and grow. This is the same problem I had in my game with Tom and its whats made him able to roll straight through China. He just built a ball of broken Chinese units and then pushed it infront of him. The overstack penalty then did all the work for him.


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JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/3/2015 3:33:35 PM)

May 23nd
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Little happening.

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Bombers are back. Only some odd 20 hits the repair yard at Victoria for a single hit. Sadly the AA BDE havnīt unpacked yet but 1 bomber is shot down and several doesnīt make it back.

KB is still missing. I think he is going to try and hit SF or something similar.

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China
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The overstacking ball is rolling towards Ankang. I wonīt be able to get out in time so it will fall too. All I can do now is hope that the stack retreats into the wilds rather then upwards on the road.

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India
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Jeff suddenly hits Diamond Harbor with a BB force. Very successfully despite 3 CD units there.

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Night Naval bombardment of Diamond Harbour at 52,38 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

36 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

CA Suzuya
CA Ashigara
CA Atago
CA Takao
CL Tama
CL Jintsu


Allied ground losses:
489 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 21 (3 destroyed, 18 disabled)



Not really sure what the purpose is though? With his troops only 3 hexes from Calcutta an invasion would make no sense. Iīll try to put some subs in the way.





GetAssista -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/3/2015 3:50:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
The overstacking ball is rolling towards Ankang. I wonīt be able to get out in time so it will fall too. All I can do now is hope that the stack retreats into the wilds rather then upwards on the road.

What happens if Ankang supply set to large draw-in + stockpile? Maybe those units can be tricked into getting the majority of their supply from somewhere else and retreat there as a result?




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/3/2015 4:16:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista
What happens if Ankang supply set to large draw-in + stockpile? Maybe those units can be tricked into getting the majority of their supply from somewhere else and retreat there as a result?


Hmm, Ankang doesnīt have any supply. With some luck they are drawing directly from Chungking in which case they should retreat towards the West? That would be perfect! But if that is the case why didnīt they retreat due west the last time...







Lokasenna -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/3/2015 4:45:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista
What happens if Ankang supply set to large draw-in + stockpile? Maybe those units can be tricked into getting the majority of their supply from somewhere else and retreat there as a result?


Hmm, Ankang doesnīt have any supply. With some luck they are drawing directly from Chungking in which case they should retreat towards the West? That would be perfect! But if that is the case why didnīt they retreat due west the last time...



I don't think it matters where they get their shipments of supply from, just what the supply path is from the hex they're in when they are forced to retreat...which is pretty much towards the "easiest" terrain that is also towards a friendly base.

This Chinese snowball effect is just another reason why I disagree with what we always see in terms of LCU deployments in AAR pictures.




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/3/2015 4:56:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista
What happens if Ankang supply set to large draw-in + stockpile? Maybe those units can be tricked into getting the majority of their supply from somewhere else and retreat there as a result?


Hmm, Ankang doesnīt have any supply. With some luck they are drawing directly from Chungking in which case they should retreat towards the West? That would be perfect! But if that is the case why didnīt they retreat due west the last time...



I don't think it matters where they get their shipments of supply from, just what the supply path is from the hex they're in when they are forced to retreat...which is pretty much towards the "easiest" terrain that is also towards a friendly base.

This Chinese snowball effect is just another reason why I disagree with what we always see in terms of LCU deployments in AAR pictures.


That probably means the snowball will keep growing into an avalanche. 80k troops now... [:(] Its more of a SL problem then a game problem I think. Only consolation is that it will have the same effect on Jeff when he is defending.

PS. Still playing WOWS?




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/3/2015 6:50:00 PM)

Heh, moving subs to interdict his bombardments payed off at once. [:)]

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Lokasenna -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/3/2015 11:10:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista
What happens if Ankang supply set to large draw-in + stockpile? Maybe those units can be tricked into getting the majority of their supply from somewhere else and retreat there as a result?


Hmm, Ankang doesnīt have any supply. With some luck they are drawing directly from Chungking in which case they should retreat towards the West? That would be perfect! But if that is the case why didnīt they retreat due west the last time...



I don't think it matters where they get their shipments of supply from, just what the supply path is from the hex they're in when they are forced to retreat...which is pretty much towards the "easiest" terrain that is also towards a friendly base.

This Chinese snowball effect is just another reason why I disagree with what we always see in terms of LCU deployments in AAR pictures.


That probably means the snowball will keep growing into an avalanche. 80k troops now... [:(] Its more of a SL problem then a game problem I think. Only consolation is that it will have the same effect on Jeff when he is defending.

PS. Still playing WOWS?


And a problem with setting up defenses in successive strings of hexes [;)]. I prefer my Chinese losses to be cut off and dead than retreating in any case.

Yep. Played for probably 3 hours last night. Had a blast. Still in Tier 7, though. Mostly. Am playing IJN BBs, IJN DDs, Kriegsmarine cruisers, IJN cruisers, USN cruisers, IJN carriers.... little bit of everything [8D].




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 7:32:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Yep. Played for probably 3 hours last night. Had a blast. Still in Tier 7, though. Mostly. Am playing IJN BBs, IJN DDs, Kriegsmarine cruisers, IJN cruisers, USN cruisers, IJN carriers.... little bit of everything [8D].


I played the US CAs up to T8 but got tired of getting one shotted by BBs and the repair cost of 110k. Started playing BBs instead which was great fun. Currently in a NC and having a blast. Have enough XP for the Iowa but lack 10 mil. Didnīt want to start grinding just for money so I started playing CVs instead. Harder then you think. Just got the ranger but the higher tier AA means my unupgraded TBs and DBs get mauled before they can drop anything. Probably going to have to free XP a bit.

Also have a Mutsuki in port. So Iīve been playing pretty much everything as well. Havnīt bothered with the German/Soviet CAs yet.





JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 8:37:09 AM)

India
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Here is a screen of the situation. It will be a tough balance as I think my counter attack have about parity with what Jeff has in India. So I donīt think I can defeat him and I know he canīt defeat me. At least not in Calcutta. But I have to avoid getting cut off.

I donīt really expect to actually cut him off with this thrust. But rather to force him to stop his advance and defend his rear areas. I need him to realize he cannot bypass and leave Calcutta behind. I need time for the 32nd US, 2nd British and the US Marines to arrive in India. I donīt want an engagement with his main force outside Calcutta. Its too soon.

Thoughts?


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BBfanboy -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 1:31:32 PM)

What has the air war been like in India? Can you use your air power against his attack? He must have had a lot in Alaska and you shot down quite a bit of that!




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 1:56:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

What has the air war been like in India? Can you use your air power against his attack? He must have had a lot in Alaska and you shot down quite a bit of that!


He doesnīt have much in the way of bombers. But he can quickly shift them out from China where most of the IJAAF is. I can jump in and out ambush bombings but if Iīm caught in a sweep Iīm pretty much done for.

Have 22 Hurries in the pool 8 P40s. So no staying power at all and almost no allied bombers. I think I have 30 Blenheims but thats it.





JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 4:06:33 PM)

India
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This is turning out to be really interesting. Jeff is mover deeper and deeper into India with his main stack. Armor has advanced far, far up. Looks like my Corps will slot in between them.

I think he is moving to boldly here. Leaving 4000 AV in your rear/flank unchecked... Iīve stopped my advance until he shifts another hex so I can see what he has there in his stack.

A risky move could be to push down to Dacca possibly cutting off his supply from Chittagong. Risky though he can easily turn the tables on me...Another option would be to turn NE on a more direct approach towards his stack.

Thoughts? I canīt afford to mess this up.

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BBfanboy -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 4:15:25 PM)

With all the possibilities for cutting each other off, I'd have to say this one will go to whichever side can bring more reinforcements. You have strong units at sea that will not get there for a few weeks, but can you scrounge a few from anywhere else? It doesn't look like he wants to commit his navy here so maybe the islands like Socotra can be stripped?




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 5:43:45 PM)

KB spotted outside San Diego! Invasion or strike? Planning for the 1st but preparing as well as I can for both!

Screen coming soon.




BillBrown -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 5:57:21 PM)

Look in Fort Ord. There should be some nice units to defend on the ground there.




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/4/2015 6:00:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BillBrown

Look in Fort Ord. There should be some nice units to defend on the ground there.


Already have everything forward at SF, SD and LA. But if he lands with 5-6 IDs he might overwhelm the defenses before I can reinforce.

I think he will try and bomb industry though. KB looks really bomber heavy with 370 bombers and only 120 fighters.




JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/5/2015 5:27:18 AM)

India
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Next turn will be decisive for how I play India. If Jeff has enough to defeat my counter attack Iīll have to pull back into Calcutta and turtle there until more troops can be gathered.

Last recon only showed 39k men though. But with 17 units? Doesnīt add up... Iīll know shortly I guess. [:)]

Having great fun with this. First time I had to fight in India! [:)]

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JocMeister -> RE: Canada Invaded! (11/5/2015 5:31:54 AM)

KB
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Sadly Jeff has finally figured out how to really start harvesting VPs. Instead of hitting MAN he is hitting targets directly which is 10x more effective. He has currently parked a bomber heavy KB outside SD and is hitting undefended targets. He gained 200 VPs over the last 2 days.

I donīt really have a counter for this. Iīll have to start siphon off AA from the North and all subs will sprint down at full speed to SF and start hunting the KB.

Iīll try to ambush his strikes but it will be hard. Good play by Jeff! [&o]

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