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BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/15/2015 1:46:16 PM)
Agree with Zuluhour - mines are not given enough oomph in this game and the small mark 6 that is the most available one in the early game just sucks. Three of them will sink a sub or destroyer, but not a CA. But now that Mikuma is crippled and slowed down, there are other ways to finish the job ...

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/15/2015 2:08:55 PM)
6 subs laid one load each. 2 British, 1 Dutch and 3 US subs. [&o] Very happy with the result! Both Mikuma and the DD is listed as sunk but no sinking sounds were heard.

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/15/2015 2:16:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister 6 subs laid one load each. 2 British, 1 Dutch and 3 US subs. [&o] Very happy with the result! Both Mikuma and the DD is listed as sunk but no sinking sounds were heard. There is a good chance the damaged ships disbanded in port. Can you manage a port strike?

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/15/2015 2:19:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy There is a good chance the damaged ships disbanded in port. Can you manage a port strike? Sadly, no bombers left. What little I had was shattered in that strike when I lost 50 Blenheims. I have the navy though but they arn´t quite ready yet!

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/15/2015 2:29:20 PM)
June 14th 1942 ______________________________________________________________________________ Relatively quit turns. ------------------------ NORPAC/WC ------------------------ KB disappears. LBA bombers hit bases in Canada and in the Seattle area. I´ll redeploy some fighters here soon unless KB shows up. ------------------------ India ------------------------ I though my smaller stack would shift hex this turn but they have 1 mile left. Luckily Jeff only bombarded. Will he follow across the river? My main stack is 2-3 days from liberating Rajshashi. If I´m lucky Jeff will turn due south with his main stack and try to cut off my stack from Calcutta. If he does I have him. ------------------------ SOPAC ------------------------ A Japanese SCTF pops up between OZ and Noumea. Allied fleet leaves Sydney to give battle! LBA moves to Noumea in case he wanders too close. 7 Subs that has been sitting at Noumea leaves the harbor. Will the hunter become the hunted? [image]local://upfiles/32406/0B38428B9DD04627A3F2C792DBEEF1B6.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/16/2015 4:11:11 PM)
June 16th 1942 ______________________________________________________________________________ Not the best of turns... ------------------------ NORPAC/WC ------------------------ The usual bombings. Still no sign of KB. Engineers are really starting to flood in now. Getting 1-2 units per turn right now! [&o] ------------------------ SOPAC ------------------------ I had forgotten the Japanese in this game has access to Los Angeles class attack subs... [8\|] quote: Sub attack near Noumea at 108,163 Japanese Ships SS I-159 Allied Ships CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 1 CA Pensacola DD Smith DD Benham DD Maury DD Clark DD Selfridge DD Perkins DD Preston quote: Sub attack near Noumea at 108,163 Japanese Ships SS I-159 Allied Ships CA San Francisco, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage CA Canberra DD Helm DD Gridley DD Craven DD Jarvis DD Patterson My fault really. Only had 42 DDs, 4 ASW TFs, all float planes on 20% ASW and Yorktowns TB squadron on 50% ASW (70 ASW skill) and 24 CATs from Noumea on 50 NavS and 20 ASW. Kind of obvious such meager ASW efforts isn´t enough... San Francisco is in deep trouble as she can only do 12 knots. She will probably get sunk by the sub tomorrow. York is better off and can still do 23 knots...but yeah. Wouldn´t be surprised if she gets sunk next turn... [8\|] Jeff now knows I´m hunting him. He will probably high tail out ASAP and bring the KB in. I´ll follow him one more day in case he gets complacent or is looking for a fight. Unlikely though. Forgot to take a screen. Sorry!

Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/16/2015 7:36:53 PM)
I don't know about Los Angeles class attack subs. Historically, the IJN subs took a toll on the US Navy early in the war. You're still in the early war! I know you suffered a bit from sub attacks against obvert, but I'm wondering if you just weren't unlucky there. Also keep in mind that you'll lose far fewer subs than historical on the other side of the equation, what with IJN ASW being nerfed in DBB (and the database updates from Andy) compared to stock.

zuluhour -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 1:53:33 AM)
If he was to make a run at you, he has to assume Sydney, I'd head for NZ to dry out first. (depending on where she is of course) It's a long war.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 1:31:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna I don't know about Los Angeles class attack subs. Historically, the IJN subs took a toll on the US Navy early in the war. You're still in the early war! I know you suffered a bit from sub attacks against obvert, but I'm wondering if you just weren't unlucky there. Also keep in mind that you'll lose far fewer subs than historical on the other side of the equation, what with IJN ASW being nerfed in DBB (and the database updates from Andy) compared to stock. I know, I know. I calmed down now. [:D] quote: ORIGINAL: zuluhour If he was to make a run at you, he has to assume Sydney, I'd head for NZ to dry out first. (depending on where she is of course) It's a long war. I actually went after him but never caught up.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 3:59:37 PM)
June 21st 1942 ______________________________________________________________________________ Still in a foul mood after that bloody sub attack... ------------------------ SOPAC ------------------------ Still no sign of KB. My hunch is that its steaming full speed down to SOPAC. Evacuating anything that might be exposed. Have a big convoy incoming which is a bit worrisome. Might turn them back to Balboa. I had to stop chasing the Japanese SCTF which fled due East toward Pago Pago. They came close enough for some Banshees to launch attacks from Suva but but weather and max range prevented any hits. He even brought at least one BB with him. quote: Morning Air attack on TF, near Niuafo'ou at 139,160 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 1 F1M2 Pete x 2 Allied aircraft A-24 Banshee x 13 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses A-24 Banshee: 7 damaged A-24 Banshee: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CA Maya BB Mutsu CA Kako CA Aoba The TF is now almost due East of Suva and heading NW. I stopped chasing them as I´m wary of running into the KB. Jeff tries to sweep Townsville again which ends really badly for him. 26 Zeroes shot down! ------------------------ China ------------------------ Great depression here. Jeff has now cut China in half. I keep throwing good troops in his way but with the supply penalty my adjusted AV ends up in two digit numbers. Troops are withdrawing to their final stands at Chungking, Lanchow and Sian. I usually don´t defend Sian as the clear terrain means thousands of casualties each turn from air attacks but I desperately want to damage the industry when I lose it. ------------------------ India ------------------------ See separate post ------------------------ NORPAC ------------------------ Jeff starts bombing Vancouver and Seattle again. The AA BDE shoots down 8 bombers over Seattle. [:'(] Changes the prepp for some yellow restricted troops to Coal Harbor and other targets in NORPAC. If Jeff sends the KB elsewhere I´ll start retaking what he has taken. [image]local://upfiles/32406/1968E73BD6574845A949E118E2B5B0CC.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 4:15:52 PM)
India ______________________________________________________________________________ "Big stack" is chasing a what looks like a regiment. Won´t get them in time though. I´ll see if I can lure Jeffs big stack down towards my "big stack". Tomorrow he will lose his rail connection to his big stack. Doubt that will make him happy. I´m moving a bit defensively here as I´m having problems with recon. A F4 squadron from the EC just arrived at Colombo. Once they are operational I´ll have a clearer picture. 32nd ID is 8 days from Colombo. [image]local://upfiles/32406/99A9D47286344EF09149B6D3E07C53FB.jpg[/image]

ny59giants -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 4:43:58 PM)
As of Oct 1st '42 in my game vs John 3rd, I've had CV Yorktown, BC Constellation, BC Prince of Wales, and BC Repulse hit by sub launched torpedoes. Its a long, long way from SE Pacific to Eastern USA repair shipyards via Port Stanley!! [X(] The loss of all of Hawaii hurts when it comes to trip time management.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 4:49:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants As of Oct 1st '42 in my game vs John 3rd, I've had CV Yorktown, BC Constellation, BC Prince of Wales, and BC Repulse hit by sub launched torpedoes. Its a long, long way from SE Pacific to Eastern USA repair shipyards via Port Stanley!! [X(] The loss of all of Hawaii hurts when it comes to trip time management. I imagine! [X(]

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 5:46:11 PM)
quote: JocMeister: Tomorrow he will lose his rail connection to his big stack. Doubt that will make him happy. There is a considerable network of roads in that part of India which will reduce the impact of the rail line cut. IIRC, some of the roads are first class gray ones but hard to see because they are drawn thin in the busy landscape. Try the R button to see if there are any first class roads you need to block too.

HansBolter -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 6:04:29 PM)
Don't forget that Lysanders can help with the recon load. While not recon type aircraft they do carry a camera which makes them more reliable on intel than non-camera equipped bombers in the same role.

Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/17/2015 8:58:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HansBolter Don't forget that Lysanders can help with the recon load. While not recon type aircraft they do carry a camera which makes them more reliable on intel than non-camera equipped bombers in the same role. And Fulmars.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/18/2015 6:20:24 PM)
BB, he can´t rail out though. Its a long walk that takes time... [:)] Thanks for the advice on the Fulmars/Lysanders! Keep then coming! No update tonight. Not feeling well so I´m heading to bed instead. [:(]

Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/18/2015 8:42:33 PM)
There's a later Hurricane fighter-bomber model that has a camera too, the FR.IIb and FR.IIc. I've used bombers without cameras as recon plenty of times. It just takes more planes, but you can get the DL up.

HansBolter -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/18/2015 9:11:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna There's a later Hurricane fighter-bomber model that has a camera too, the FR.IIb and FR.IIc. I've used bombers without cameras as recon plenty of times. It just takes more planes, but you can get the DL up. Same here. I routinely use 4Es for recon when not bombing with them. Any intel, no matter how unreliable is better than none.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/19/2015 4:26:59 PM)
I´m sick again. [:(] I´ll try and get an update up tomorrow if I feel better. Not much to report actually.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/20/2015 5:26:25 AM)
June 25th 1942 ______________________________________________________________________________ Some quiet turns. Still not feeling well so just a short update from my phone. ------------------------ NORPAC ------------------------ I tried to ambush a Japanese convoy at Anette Island but they left before I could move my planes in. Jeff again goes for Seattle and the AA BDE shoots down 12 Betties and Sallies. No sign of KB. ------------------------ Luzon ------------------------ Manila falls on the first attack. This frees up some troops for him. -14th ID -19th ID -6th Guards ID My bet is that they are going to India. Jeff has probably figured out by now that he doesn´t have nearly enough there. 3 IDs would bring him up to about even strength with me (not counting incoming allied reinforcements). ------------------------ SOPAC ------------------------ I was expecting KB to have shown up by now...Hmm... ------------------------ India ------------------------ Stalemate for now and no combat. Jeff is sitting with his big stack at Ranchi. Its a jungle hex and I don´t have enough to overcome that x2 defense. Not really sure how to play this...spent an hour just looking at the map trying to figure something out without finding a solution.

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/20/2015 6:01:34 AM)
You have time, he doesn't. If you weren't able to trap one of his stacks just pull back to Calcutta - he can't ignore it now. In about 3 months your bombers will pulverize him.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/20/2015 10:12:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy You have time, he doesn't. If you weren't able to trap one of his stacks just pull back to Calcutta - he can't ignore it now. In about 3 months your bombers will pulverize him. You are right. I´m starting to get that dangerous "I want to do something" itch...which is just that. Dangerous.

ny59giants -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/20/2015 11:21:12 AM)
For India, you need to see how you can rotate a division in and out of front line duty to get 42 rifle upgrades. As Allies, you have the twice monthly morale boost when nice reinforcements come in. SeaBee numbers should be climbing steadily to help you build up in India. Blame your young kids for all these illnesses. [:D]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/20/2015 3:33:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants For India, you need to see how you can rotate a division in and out of front line duty to get 42 rifle upgrades. As Allies, you have the twice monthly morale boost when nice reinforcements come in. SeaBee numbers should be climbing steadily to help you build up in India. Blame your young kids for all these illnesses. [:D] Upgrades was taken care of months ago. [:)] First Engineers are already on their way from the EC to CT! I am blaming the kids! Don´t you worry about that! [:D]

Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/20/2015 3:35:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants For India, you need to see how you can rotate a division in and out of front line duty to get 42 rifle upgrades. As Allies, you have the twice monthly morale boost when nice reinforcements come in. SeaBee numbers should be climbing steadily to help you build up in India. Blame your young kids for all these illnesses. [:D] Upgrades was taken care of months ago. [:)] First Engineers are already on their way from the EC to CT! I am blaming the kids! Don´t you worry about that! [:D] Little plague machines.

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/20/2015 3:40:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Blame your young kids for all these illnesses. [:D] It doesn't help that Jocke drives himself too hard to do work, home renovations, a recent move, new job, spend time with his family and ... us. Did a stress scale questionnaire once and change of job, moving and new child were very high on the list of stressors! [X(] I guess the scales designers didn't know about WITP-AE or it would have been on there too! [;)]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/20/2015 3:51:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna Little plague machines. No kidding! Been sick more the over last 3 years then I´ve been all my life! [X(] quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy It doesn't help that Jocke drives himself too hard to do work, home renovations, a recent move, new job, spend time with his family and ... us. Did a stress scale questionnaire once and change of job, moving and new child were very high on the list of stressors! [X(] I guess the scales designers didn't know about WITP-AE or it would have been on there too! [;)] Can I please forward this to my wife! [:D][&o]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/21/2015 4:32:39 AM)
China ______________________________________________________________________________ Jeff has cut China in half. I can´t stop his thrust into the Chunking plains. I have about 1500 AV (well dug in) in the way but all units have 0 supply despite no overstacking. He can just walk up to Chungking. There is still some supply in Chungking and I´ll leave some 3000 AV there. The rest will try and move for the Changsha area and the mountains. [image]local://upfiles/32406/C48AEADB88DB419F9DF362FEA2B0254B.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (11/21/2015 4:49:09 AM)
India ______________________________________________________________________________ Stalemate continues. I am stronger then he is here. But not strong enough to defeat him in good defensive terrain. And not strong enough to push down towards Chittagong AND protect my flanks/rear against his big stack. I played with the idea of trying to cut his main stack off. But the same problem applies here. I can´t prevent him from reopening the hex sides. I think he will send the 3 IDs freed up from Luzon here and quite possible the KB as well. If KB doesn´t show up in SOPAC or NORPAC shortly I will know he is on his way. Either way its time to send the CV fleet back to CT. Ent and Hornet need still havn´t gotten their 4/42 upgrades done and Indomitable will withdraw shortly. 32nd ID is 10 days from Bombay, 2nd ID is 6 days from Aden and the 1st Marines are 19 days from CT. Those are the only big reinforcements slated for India during 42. Indian army is steadily growing but is VERY inexperienced with a few exceptions. [image]local://upfiles/32406/0E70119A0D464E8F84746A6EEF386B79.jpg[/image]

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