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JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 4:15:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel It's nearly impossible to really threaten India begining late summer of '42. The Allies grow too strong by then. By autumn, Lowpe would be bogged down in an immense morass. To even pose a real threat (as opposed to a more localized operation), he'd need to bring 15 to 20 divisions (or equivalent). He'd probably need to land in force behind your lines somewhere. He'd probably need the full KB. And you should get all kinds of intel that troops are prepping or troops are inbound. So you should have some warning. Plus, you'll be building forts like crazy at Bombay and Karachi. and other key bases. And be sure to send a zillion supply form Capetown/Aden to Karachi before the door closes. Also, be sure to keep anti-paratroop garrisons at any base remotely useful to you or Lowpe - especially key railroad and road junctions. Don't allow troops to get marooned on Ceylon. You need enough to keep Lowpe honest, but you can't hold it if he comes for it. India's far more important and imminently more defensible. I just can't imagine Lowpe doing this at this late date. All this you know, of course, but I can't help stream-of-consciousness thinking. I agree on all points. India is beyond Japanese capabilities this late and considering the commitment in NORPAC. I know of at least 2 full IDs still in NORPAC (4th and 21st was just confirmed by SIGINT in NORPAC) I really don´t understand what Jeff is doing in India to begin with. And why is he risking his troops here against a much stronger foe? For very few VPs and very little industry? Karachi and Bombay have been building forts from the very first turn. [:)] Not sure where they are at right now but at least 6+ by now. He also would have to defeat the entire RN (and a big US naval force to get there). So unless KB shows up there is very little threat. This is big comfort for me and have allowed me to release a lot of forces from Karachi and Bombay to the front line. Jeff moving KB to SOPAC was a blessing for me. [:)] Convoys are constantly moving fuel and supply to India. Only time it stops is when CT is drained. Abadan I have been unable to drain though... [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 4:18:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna Can you get it online, perhaps? They're a much bigger operation than they used to be (they were sold to a big distillery in Indiana... and it's questionable whether it's still the same recipe, but it's still tasty so whatever). https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-15758.aspx That is actually not a bad idea. Will have to give it some thought though. Its 60 Euro and I just bought a bunch of books for 280 Euro. Don´t want the missus to go medieval on me! [:D]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 4:21:58 PM)
PS. Turn is away and the attack is ordered. Unless Jeff has more then I can imagine we should do well tomorrow. He has been hitting my troops from the air but AA has kept them at bay. But a little bit of [sm=party-smiley-012.gif] can´t hurt...

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:24:33 PM)
Asansol ______________________________________________________________________________ Jeff had snuck in another division! We still did good and will overwhelm him in the next attack. Need to wait for supply before that though...again. quote: Ground combat at Asansol (53,34) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 72886 troops, 1191 guns, 1015 vehicles, Assault Value = 2386 Defending force 39042 troops, 549 guns, 270 vehicles, Assault Value = 1146 Allied adjusted assault: 1134 Japanese adjusted defense: 498 Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 2785 casualties reported Squads: 64 destroyed, 144 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 39 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled Guns lost 63 (7 destroyed, 56 disabled) Vehicles lost 38 (4 destroyed, 34 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2923 casualties reported Squads: 10 destroyed, 154 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 50 disabled Engineers: 90 destroyed, 47 disabled Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled) Vehicles lost 47 (5 destroyed, 42 disabled) Assaulting units: I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion 18th British Division 254th Armoured Brigade 7th Australian Division 7th Armoured Brigade 32nd Infantry Division 6th Australian Division 70th British Division 95th Heavy AA Regiment 77th Heavy AA Regiment 2/9th Field Regiment 2/11th Field Regiment 2/1st Med Regiment 1st Indian Light AA Regiment 1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment Defending units: 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment 38th Division 4th Guards Division 8th Tank Regiment 17th Indpt Guards Regiment 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 20th AA Regiment 3rd Mortar Battalion 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 51st Field AA Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /5

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:26:17 PM)
SOPAC ______________________________________________________________________________ Uhm. Hello? [image]local://upfiles/32406/BD5AC6C735EC4085BA44E355B6E16937.jpg[/image]

Canoerebel -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:35:51 PM)
That's a very favorable result for you at Asanol. Lowpe will be very concerned, so he'll probably LRCAP and bomb your troops, hoping for time to bring in reinforcements (are any close by?) and to rebuild his forts. But he controls multiple hexsides so he doesn't have to worry about being isolated, I don't think. Still, if you force his stack to retreat, two divisions and three infantry/tank regiments are going to be in bad shape.

Rio Bravo -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:39:08 PM)
Joc- The Allies are coming back with a vengeance! Nice job. India is yours! Best Regards, -Terry

Canoerebel -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:47:49 PM)
Do you think this is Lowpe's first awareness that 32nd USA Division in India? If so, what do you think he'll make of that info?

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:47:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel That's a very favorable result for you at Asanol. Lowpe will be very concerned, so he'll probably LRCAP and bomb your troops, hoping for time to bring in reinforcements (are any close by?) and to rebuild his forts. But he controls multiple hexsides so he doesn't have to worry about being isolated, I don't think. Still, if you force his stack to retreat, two divisions and three infantry/tank regiments are going to be in bad shape. Yeah, very happy with the result! [:)] He has forces moving from Dacca but I have 1200 AV moving in to intercept them. So he will have to go a long way around if he wants to reinforce at Asansol. He is also moving what appears to be a regiment down from the North. They are being followed by another 800 allied (including the best Indian ID I have) AV though. I think unless he can pull a rabbit out of the hat he has one or possibly two attacks before he is forcible evicted.

Canoerebel -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:50:33 PM)
I think your next attack succeeds unless he brings in reinforcements (remember, he can strat mode them into the contested hex, though doing so leaves them vulnerable) or unless your undersupplied. With a 2:1 and two forts dropping to one on the last attack, I think you might hazard a shock attack next turn. I'd definitely do it if you can check off these three things: (1) you have suppy; (2) you aren't unduly disrupted and fatigued; and (3) there's no risk of meaningful IJA reinforcements arriving. My sense is that a shock will work here. If so, his stack will be in terrible condition. Good luck!

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:55:31 PM)
India ______________________________________________________________________________ A bit cluttered but I hope its somewhat clear what is happening. 2nd British are just 2 days out from Calcutta now. 2nd Marines are about 2 weeks out. [image]local://upfiles/32406/51AEF1D534D1450E96AC3E396CB0F1DE.jpg[/image]

tiemanjw -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:55:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel I think your next attack succeeds unless he brings in reinforcements (remember, he can strat mode them into the contested hex, though doing so leaves them vulnerable) or unless your undersupplied. With a 2:1 and two forts dropping to one on the last attack, I think you might hazard a shock attack next turn. I'd definitely do it if you can check off these three things: (1) you have suppy; (2) you aren't unduly disrupted and fatigued; and (3) there's no risk of meaningful IJA reinforcements arriving. My sense is that a shock will work here. If so, his stack will be in terrible condition. Good luck! agreed... though if you can prevent any reinforcements from entering, another deliberate, followed by a shock attack with the tanks in reserve mode. Or if you could hit him hard from the air (do you have anything left?), shock attack next with the tanks in reserve.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:56:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel I think your next attack succeeds unless he brings in reinforcements (remember, he can strat mode them into the contested hex, though doing so leaves them vulnerable) or unless your undersupplied. With a 2:1 and two forts dropping to one on the last attack, I think you might hazard a shock attack next turn. I'd definitely do it if you can check off these three things: (1) you have suppy; (2) you aren't unduly disrupted and fatigued; and (3) there's no risk of meaningful IJA reinforcements arriving. My sense is that a shock will work here. If so, his stack will be in terrible condition. Good luck! I think so too. Sadly supply is in the red again so I´ll have to wait. Disruption and fatigue are under control though. Nothing too bad. [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 5:58:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tiemanj agreed... though if you can prevent any reinforcements from entering, another deliberate, followed by a shock attack with the tanks in reserve mode. Or if you could hit him hard from the air (do you have anything left?), shock attack next with the tanks in reserve. Air is gone and will be for a while. [:(] Have some 4Es coming in but they are 7 days from CT. I´ll attack as soon as supply are back in white!

tiemanjw -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 6:02:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: tiemanj agreed... though if you can prevent any reinforcements from entering, another deliberate, followed by a shock attack with the tanks in reserve mode. Or if you could hit him hard from the air (do you have anything left?), shock attack next with the tanks in reserve. Air is gone and will be for a while. [:(] Have some 4Es coming in but they are 7 days from CT. I´ll attack as soon as supply are back in white! How red is red? Remember that supply usage goes up considerably when you go into combat. What was white yesterday is red today (even if their hadn't been any supply draw). If your divisions are still in 4 digits, I'd go now. Always remember, he is hurting too - and in this case, more than you. Wait, and he gets supplies, his disruption gets lower, he recovers disabled squads, and he builds forts.

Canoerebel -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 6:07:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Air is gone and will be for a while. [:(] Have some 4Es coming in but they are 7 days from CT. More stream of consciousness here: I usually build up the Socatra airfield so that TFs inbound from Capetown and carrying airfcraft can unload there. Speeds up arrival at the front by roughly four to six days.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 7:37:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tiemanj quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: tiemanj agreed... though if you can prevent any reinforcements from entering, another deliberate, followed by a shock attack with the tanks in reserve mode. Or if you could hit him hard from the air (do you have anything left?), shock attack next with the tanks in reserve. Air is gone and will be for a while. [:(] Have some 4Es coming in but they are 7 days from CT. I´ll attack as soon as supply are back in white! How red is red? Remember that supply usage goes up considerably when you go into combat. What was white yesterday is red today (even if their hadn't been any supply draw). If your divisions are still in 4 digits, I'd go now. Always remember, he is hurting too - and in this case, more than you. Wait, and he gets supplies, his disruption gets lower, he recovers disabled squads, and he builds forts. All IDs are juuuust above 1k. So they are all 2-300 supplies short. Too much for me to risk an attack.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 7:37:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel More stream of consciousness here: I usually build up the Socatra airfield so that TFs inbound from Capetown and carrying airfcraft can unload there. Speeds up arrival at the front by roughly four to six days. That is something I had not thought of! Thanks for the advice. [:)]

JeffroK -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 8:30:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel Do you think this is Lowpe's first awareness that 32nd USA Division in India? If so, what do you think he'll make of that info? He might think SWPAC is a bit light on and make him frisky there?

HansBolter -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/11/2015 9:22:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel More stream of consciousness here: I usually build up the Socatra airfield so that TFs inbound from Capetown and carrying airfcraft can unload there. Speeds up arrival at the front by roughly four to six days. That is something I had not thought of! Thanks for the advice. [:)] Never thought to do this either. Would really only work for fairly long range planes right? Would likely suffer some ops losses for the long range transfers, but weighed against the potential to lose the entire squadron to a sub attack it seems to weigh out positively.

JeffroK -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 12:12:02 AM)
Do you have any spare units which can make moves to either delay or give Lowpe cause to withhold reinforcement?

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 5:57:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffK He might think SWPAC is a bit light on and make him frisky there? I´m not sure. If he has done his homework he should know about the Americal starting in OZ. Besides them I´ve only sent the 27th ID there. Perhaps he is underestimating the Australian army? While not the most powerful units there are still plenty of full IDs with decent EXP. In a defensive role with some good terrain and backed up with extra arty and some armor I think they can prove quite resilient. quote: ORIGINAL: JeffK Do you have any spare units which can make moves to either delay or give Lowpe cause to withhold reinforcement? Do you mean the stack trying to push in between Asansol and Calcutta?

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 7:09:17 AM)
India ______________________________________________________________________________ Quite surprisingly my units at Asansol were able to draw in more supplies after just a turn of waiting! [&o] Tomorrow we attack again. I decided against shock attacking. I´m short on combat engineers after the last attack and if Jeff got the forts back up we could do more harm to ourselves then to him with a shock attack. His stack is showing movement to the NW. Probably wrecked units moving to Ranchi and then strat mode out. My 3 IDs move in to block Jeffs stack trying to slot in between Calcutta and Asansol. He should have shifted hex a long time ago though so this is just a feint from him. Nonetheless we are now in place. 2nd British just passed Nagpur. 2nd Marines will come on map in 2 days. British BBs will cover their crossing. Jeff continues to bomb me from the air. He looses a couple bombers each time for no noticeable effect. [image]local://upfiles/32406/F63BE92AC46F4898AD78127DF92CF65B.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 7:17:22 AM)
SOPAC ______________________________________________________________________________ A small unit (probably a BF) lands at Belep Island. Not going to react to this until I know more. Something more is coming no doubt. Had a bit of good timing here. quote: Noumea expands fortifications to size 6 Started expending the airfield now. I´ve loaded up reinforcements for Noumea but they are holding for now. Doubled NavS on the OZ coast around Townesville. [image]local://upfiles/32406/D1906051205B461DB5007FBD45DF20F0.jpg[/image]

JeffroK -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 7:56:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: JeffK He might think SWPAC is a bit light on and make him frisky there? I´m not sure. If he has done his homework he should know about the Americal starting in OZ. Besides them I´ve only sent the 27th ID there. Perhaps he is underestimating the Australian army? While not the most powerful units there are still plenty of full IDs with decent EXP. In a defensive role with some good terrain and backed up with extra arty and some armor I think they can prove quite resilient. If he is counting units, seeing 6 & 7 OZ & 32 US in India might appear that SWPAC only has Oz Militia and 1-2 US Divs, I dont overestimate the Australian Militia units, and the US Divs are (should be) far from being the lean, mean fighting machines of 1944-45. IFF the japanese player can land 3-4 Divs at one point he should have enough force concentrated to take the base (Unless its your L6+forts at Noumea) and see off reaction forces as they arrive. Lots depends on whether its a game for AV or 1945.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 9:28:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffK If he is counting units, seeing 6 & 7 OZ & 32 US in India might appear that SWPAC only has Oz Militia and 1-2 US Divs, I dont overestimate the Australian Militia units, and the US Divs are (should be) far from being the lean, mean fighting machines of 1944-45. IFF the japanese player can land 3-4 Divs at one point he should have enough force concentrated to take the base (Unless its your L6+forts at Noumea) and see off reaction forces as they arrive. Lots depends on whether its a game for AV or 1945. I think the window for 3-4 IDs to run rampage in SOPAC are way past now. The OZ army actually upgrade from a militia to proper IDs in spring 42. [:)] Very light TOE but not that different from a standard Jap ID. Most important factor though is forts. I have had 10 months to build forts. All important places have level 5-8 forts. [image]local://upfiles/32406/F788FA128D20473D98B24DA1B69422A5.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 10:24:43 AM)
SIGINT ______________________________________________________________________________ Some very interesting SIGINT have dropped in the last couple of turns. Been a while since I sat down and went through everything. Its a good thing I did because I found a lot of interesting things. quote: 2/25th/B Division is loaded on xAKL Gyoun Maru moving to Rangoon. 1/18th/B Division is located at Imphal(60,40). 5/19th Division is planning for an attack on Calcutta. 9/48th/A Division is planning for an attack on Prince Rupert. 21st/A Division is located at Skagway(191,35). 4th/B Division is located at Pearl Harbor(180,107). 18th/A Division is planning for an attack on Ledo. 4th/A Division is located at Pearl Harbor(180,107). This is a just a couple. There are a ton more but I don´t want to dig them all up. I can´t stress to new players just how important keeping track of SIGINT is. Its THE most important tool you have early game and might provide your only chance to react to Japanese movement in time. Anyway. This tells me three things I didn´t know. -19th ID is in India or on its way. -48th ID are on boats going somewhere and its not PR (He would need 10+ IDs for that). I bet they are going to India. -25th ID are moving to India. This boost Japanese strength to at least 7 IDs (5th, 18th, 25th, IGD, 38th, 4th Guards ID, 48th(?)). This still leaves him seriously understrength in India. ------------------------ NORPAC/CENTPAC ------------------------ 4th ID at PH 21st at Skagway ------------------------ India ------------------------ 4th Guards at Asansol 5th ID. Not seen in India but SIGINT showed them moving to Chittagong in Mars and planning for Calcutta in June. 18th ID 25th on ships to Rangoon 38th at Asansol Imperial Guards at Ledo 19th planning for Calcutta. Last seen on Mindanao. ------------------------ China [X(] (Just realized this!!!) ------------------------ 33rd ID (woot!) Guards Tank Division (wooot?!) Not really sure how I managed to miss this. But Jeff have actually moved the 33rd ID from NORPAC to...China. That is a huge Allied victory. I must really have frustrated him here. Go me?! [:D] ------------------------ Unknown ------------------------ 16th last seen at Coal Harbor. Most likely still there. 48th on ships. Last seen at Bella Bella. Probably moving for India. 6th Guards ID. Never seen (possibly China?). Begins at CRB in February. Not sure if I have missed any? But its obvious Jeff has moved the bulk of his forces to India. In fact almost half of them are there. ------------------------ Conclusions ------------------------ This tells me many important things assuming I havn´t missed any major Japanese troops. -There is NO threat to SOPAC. He would need 5-6 divisions to take any location of importance (Noumea, Suva) and mainland OZ/NZ is completely out of the picture. -It also tells me there won´t be any WC invasion. He would need everything he has (10-15 IDs) to have even the slightest chance. With 9 IDs in India and China this is absolutely impossible. Thoughts? -Jeff is slowly getting sucked into the Indian morass CR mentioned. He is now fighting the worst possible place the Japanese can fight. And more importantly he has completely lost the initiative. He is now reacting (and has been for the last few months) to an allied buildup in India. -Japan is dangerously week in SOPAC and NORPAC. I have to give this some more thoughts. But I see some interesting possibilities for the allies.

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 12:04:01 PM)
Sigint is showing 4th division A and B portions in PH and then mentions just "4th ID", but does not mention 4th/C. Does that mean he has split the Division and sent some of it to other parts of Hawaii or SoPac? Could he be starting to extract the division?

ny59giants -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 12:18:07 PM)
After running the Combat Replay and loading the actual turn, I ALWAYS hit the "L" key for SIGINT. [:D] If you skip a turn doing this you can miss something very important.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (12/12/2015 12:41:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Sigint is showing 4th division A and B portions in PH and then mentions just "4th ID", but does not mention 4th/C. Does that mean he has split the Division and sent some of it to other parts of Hawaii or SoPac? Could he be starting to extract the division? I doubt that he would have sent them far away. He would want them close by to recombine if needed! quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants After running the Combat Replay and loading the actual turn, I ALWAYS hit the "L" key for SIGINT. [:D] If you skip a turn doing this you can miss something very important. I actually do this before I do anything else. [:)]

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