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Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (3/31/2019 4:17:20 PM)

Week 113: February 2nd – February 8th 1944

North Pacific:
No IJN activity.




Central Pacific:
Allied bomber and sea bombardments continue to hit Saipan, where the Allies enjoy a 677:181 raw AV advantage. Further attacks are put on hold as the Allies’ supply levels are running low. A re-supply test run with 1 AK discovers the Saipan coastal fort is still operational…it sinks the AK outright before it can offload anything. This means I’ll have to wait for a few BBs and LSTs to become available to make another run. If all goes well, supply should be landing at Saipan within a week, and the final assault preparations will commence shortly thereafter.




Southern Pacific:
No IJN activity.




South-West Pacific:
Operation Chimera’s thrust into the Celebes is given the green light. Ships leave Rabaul and head east, following the New Guinea coast towards the DEI. Intel still shows that the invasion sites (Watampone and Kolaka) are unoccupied, so the plan is to take these bases quickly and then march overland to the main objectives of Makassar and Kendari. Troops should make landfall on or around 2/14.

The Jolo operation remains a deadlock. The Allies keep the island isolated while prepping reinforcements. In the meantime, a small detachment from Rabaul is sailing to TawiTawi (2 hexes to the east of Jolo), to set up a base there and help isolate Tarakan.




SE Asia/China:
The advance down the Malayan peninsula is moving along well. At the end of the week, lead Allied recon units reach Singora and find a single base force holding the base. A deliberate attack is ordered up, but is not able to dislodge the defenders. The Allied commander decides to hold for reinforcements that should arrive on 2/9.
Intel shows a large force (14 Units, 35K Troops, 200 Guns, 115 Vehicles) at Alor Star. This is the first major resistance on the road to Singapore, and the enemy force is in an optimal spot for an Allied flanking maneuver once Singora is captured.

The situation in China continues in the Allies favor. The Chinese arrive in force at Sinyang (AV ratio 2,454:952), hoping to clear this base and open up a clear supply line to the Chengchow area to the north. An initial Chinese assault is defeated. The Allies lose about 2,000 troops (400 disabled squads) while inflicting 1,200 casualties (70 disabled squads) on the Japanese. The assault reveals the defenders are entrenched behind level 6 forts, this will definitely be a tough nut to crack. For the near term, the plan is to keep the pressure on and force the enemy to expend supply. A secondary force is probing SE along the river towards Anking, where resistance looks to be much weaker.

In the North, the Chinese envelopment at Kaoping is coming along nicely. A 2,000 AV Chinese force arrives in Kaoping and attracts a series of deliberate attacks from a 150,000 enemy troops stationed there (2,500 AV). These assaults are rebuffed with massive Japanese casualties (14K in 3 days), the Allies lose only about 2K in the same time span. The Japanese halt assaults as the AV ratio is about equal at 2,100 apiece. Meanwhile, two Chinese corps move from Anyang to cut the rail/road line into Kaoping to the North East. Let’s see how 150,000 enemy troops survive on minimal rations. [Insert Dr. Evil laugh here]

In the south, progress is being made towards Canton. Approximately 1,600 AV should reach the hex NW of Canton on 2/10. There is an enemy force of about 500 AV there, but they are beat up, as they were just ousted from the hex the Allied force is currently in.




IJN Watch:
-No enemy capital ships sighted this week.




Notable Base Captures:
- Gorontalo [Celebes] occupied by the Allies (2/2)
- Ningasa [China] captured by the Allies (2/3)
- Togian-eilanden [Celebes] occupied by the Allies (2/5)
- Amoy [China] captured by the Allies (2/6)
- Butuan [Philippines] captured by the Allies (2/7)




Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 8,937 [+72]

Japanese: 25,991 [+156]


Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 675 [+1]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Corregidor, CVE Nassau, CVE St.Lo, 5 CA, 14 CL, 27 DD

Japanese: 1,509 [+8]
Notables: CV Akagi, CV Kaga, CV Hiryu, CV Hiyo, CV Junyo, CV Soryu, CV Shokaku, CV Zuikaku, CVL Shoho, CVL Ryuho, CVL Ryujo, CVL Zuiho, CVE Hosho, CVE Taiyo, BB Fuso, BB Haruna, BB Hiei, BB Kongo, BB Mutsu, BB Nagato, BB Yamato, 18 CA, 22 CL, 50 DD


Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 11,231 [+33]
Japanese: 13,316 [+313]
A/J Ratio: 0.84 to 1


VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 72,286 [+641]
Japanese: 34,106 [+86]
A/J Ratio: 2.12 to 1




Operation Aperture:
Phase 1:
-Assault & Capture Guam [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Tinian [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Saipan [IN PROGRESS. AV 677:181 Advantage Allies, Forts at 3]

Phase 2:
-Assault & Capture Marcus [COMPLETE]




Operation Chimera:
Phase 1A:
-Assault & Capture Cotabato [COMPLETE]
-Secure Mindano [COMPLETE – Minor enemy resistance at Zamboanga]

Phase 1B:
-Assault & Capture Balikpapan
-Assault & Capture Jolo [IN PROGRESS, AV 351:388 Forts at 5]
-Reinforce Brunei

Phase 1C:
-Assault & Capture Watampone [Invasion forces en route from Rabaul]
-Assault & Capture Kolaka [Invasion forces en route from Rabaul]
-Assault & Capture Makassar
-Assault & Capture Kendari




Other Notes:
-Sub picket lines in the South China Sea account for only 1 AK this week, however ASW patrols sink 2 enemy subs in the Sulu Sea
-Intel reports the Kirishima is still in service. Not sure if she will be sea-worthy anytime soon, but we’ll plan as though she is.



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (4/6/2019 6:53:24 PM)

Week 114: February 9th – February 15th 1944

North Pacific:
No IJN activity.




Central Pacific:
Allied bomber and sea bombardments continue to hit Saipan, where the Allies enjoy a 702:200 raw AV advantage. Despite constant bombardment from the ground, sea, and air…the Japanese garrison seems to still have supply, as their AV keeps recovering. The good news is, 3 more Japanese AKs are sunk trying to resupply Saipan, and the Allied bombardments are bearing more fruit. Also a TF of 20 LSTs escorted by DDs and 3 old BBs land 35K supply on the island in one day. The Saipan Naval Fortress did all it could, hitting the BBs a total of 12 times (resulting in minor damage), but the LSTs were unharmed and delivered their precious cargo. Allied forces are well rested and should be ready to launch an offensive in a day or so.




Southern Pacific:
No IJN activity.




South-West Pacific:
Operation Chimera makes landfall at Watampone and Kolaka, and just as intel reported, the bases were vacant. Non-combat forces (Base Forces/AV support/Engineers) and more supply are now unloading at both bases. As the assault forces advance towards their main objectives (Makassar and Kendari).

While the Jolo operation remains a deadlock, the TawiTawi operation is moving along well, Invasion forces are poised to hit the beaches in less than a week. Intel still reports no enemy garrison present.


SE Asia/China:
The advance down the Malayan peninsula continues. Early in the week, the main Allied units reach Singora and easily oust the single base force located there. The group will now split. Main force (2,000 AV) will head west along the road towards Alor Star and the Japanese presence (now estimated to be 37K troops). The 5th and 26th Indian Divisions, and a Chindit Brigade will (~1,000 AV) march south along the railroad and take Patani while encircling the Japanese strongpoint from the south. The Chindit Brigade’s function will be to hold the hex SW of Singora, to maintain the supply line for the flanking force, and later, to help encircle the Japanese at Alor Star.

The situation in China continues in the Allies favor. Chinese reinforcements arrive in at Sinyang (AV ratio 5,293:961). The Chinese assault is defeated, with the Allies losing about 4,800 troops (40 destroyed/722 disabled squads) while inflicting 3,300 casualties (56 destroyed/70 disabled squads) on the Japanese. The forts remain at 6, but it’s nice to see the Japanese taking some meaningful casualties.

In the North, the Chinese envelopment at Kaoping holds. After a few more disastrous assaults by the Japanese, the AV ratio is at 1758:727, firmly in the Allies favor. The Chinese are maintaining bombardments to force the encircled force to burn supply.

In the south, progress is being made towards Canton. Approximately 1,600 AV arrived in the hex NW of Canton and promptly ousted the enemy group (500 AV), causing 3,400 casualties (98 destroyed/131 disabled squads) before the defenders tucked tail and ran. Interestingly, 3 of the units retreated eastwards into an open hex, while the rest (5 or 6 units) retreated south into Canton.

Japanese pockets at Nanchang (18 units/113K troops) and west of Pucheng (3 units, 30K troops) continue to be worn down.




IJN Watch:
-No enemy capital ships sighted this week.




Notable Base Captures:
- Singora [Malaya] captured by the Allies (2/10)
- Siargao [Philippines] occupied by the Allies (2/11)
- Baybay [Philippines] occupied by the Allies (2/13)
- Watampone [Celebes] captured by the Allies (2/14)
- Kolaka [Celebes] captured by the Allies (2/14)
- Palopo [Celebes] occupied by the Allies (2/15)




Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 9,002 [+65]

Japanese: 26,172 [+181]


Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 679 [+4]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Corregidor, CVE Nassau, CVE St.Lo, 5 CA, 14 CL, 28 DD

Japanese: 1,532 [+23]
Notables: CV Akagi, CV Kaga, CV Hiryu, CV Hiyo, CV Junyo, CV Soryu, CV Shokaku, CV Zuikaku, CVL Shoho, CVL Ryuho, CVL Ryujo, CVL Zuiho, CVE Hosho, CVE Taiyo, BB Fuso, BB Haruna, BB Hiei, BB Kongo, BB Mutsu, BB Nagato, BB Yamato, 18 CA, 22 CL, 51 DD


Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 11,251 [+20]
Japanese: 13,661 [+345]
A/J Ratio: 0.82 to 1


VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 73,110 [+824]
Japanese: 34,186 [+80]
A/J Ratio: 2.14 to 1




Operation Aperture:
Phase 1:
-Assault & Capture Guam [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Tinian [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Saipan [IN PROGRESS. AV 702:200 Advantage Allies, Forts at 3]

Phase 2:
-Assault & Capture Marcus [COMPLETE]




Operation Chimera:
Phase 1A:
-Assault & Capture Cotabato [COMPLETE]
-Secure Mindano [COMPLETE – Minor enemy resistance at Zamboanga]

Phase 1B:
-Assault & Capture Balikpapan
-Assault & Capture Jolo [IN PROGRESS - AV 437:403 Forts at 5]
-Reinforce Brunei [IN PROGRESS - Forces en route from Rabaul]

Phase 1C:
-Assault & Capture Watampone [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Kolaka [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Makassar [IN PROGRESS – Forces marching overland from Watampone]
-Assault & Capture Kendari [IN PROGRESS – Forces marching overland from Kolaka]




Other Notes:
-Sub picket lines in the South China Sea account for 9 ships this week [4-AK, 2-SC, 3-TK]
-1st Kamikaze attack (16 Bettys) sinks a DD and heavily damages another off the Malaya coast near Singora. The damaged DD put in at Singora and has 27 SYS/47 FLT. Singora should be able to repair the SYS damage, but the FLT (all major) will have to be dealt with at Saigon afterwards.



jwolf -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (4/8/2019 1:17:59 PM)

Yeah a good Kamikaze hit will severely damage a DD if not outright sink it. The bigger warships can take more of a beating ... usually.

That DD would probably repair much faster at Colombo if you can get it there. Or hold it in Malaya until you recapture Singapore. [:)]



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (4/12/2019 2:17:04 PM)

I like your optimism jwolf[sm=00000436.gif]. I too hope to have Singapore's services very soon...all depends upon the quality of the garrison there, and of course the fort size.



jwolf -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (4/12/2019 2:49:32 PM)

You should assume the fort is high, at least 6 and probably 9. Make sure you have multiple combat engineers who can rotate in and out. And DON'T have the combat engineers in the initial shock crossing attack.



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (4/14/2019 3:50:24 AM)

Ahh, good point about the combat engineers and the initial shock attack. I'll make sure to hold them back.

I am fully expecting level 9 forts at Singapore, I already ran into them at Saipan, so I know the AI is capable of building them. The coastal forts will pretty much eliminate any chance of using BBs to bombard. The good news is I have a larger pool of ground forces now than when I assaulted Saipan. It will allow me to rotate units in and out and hopefully keep the pressure on.



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (4/22/2019 5:48:28 AM)

Week 115: February 16th – February 22nd 1944

North Pacific:
No IJN activity.




Central Pacific:
Allied offensive ops resume on Saipan on 2/17, the initial attack has minimal casualties on each side, but the forts are reduced from 3 to 1. The following day, the assault achieves a 3:1 result, and the island is captured…hurrah! Engineers have their work cut out for them, as all base facilities are at 100 damage. By the end of the week, the airfield is operational, but there is much work still to be done.




Southern Pacific:
No IJN activity.




South-West Pacific:
Allied forces make good progress in Celebes. Watampone and Kolaka get some support troops and ground forces advance towards their objectives. One goof on my part though, I forgot to have one of the armored units (766th tank battalion) follow the infantry heading to Makassar. What resulted was the tanks arrived at Makassar alone and got repulsed by the enemy (approx. 250AV). About 20 of the 60 Stuarts tanks got disabled. Luckily the unit retreated and was spared any further damage.

Jolo remains a stalemate. The current plan is to blockade the sea approaches and continue with land/sea bombardments to draw down the enemy’s supply. Too many other (more important) ops are in motion, so reinforcement here will be delayed. Allied troops have a firm foothold and are well supplied, so the status quo is acceptable.

Allied boots hit the ground at Tawi-Tawi and quickly take the island. First thing next week, support forces (AV support and engineers) will be unloaded to develop this base

The last of the Japanese resistance outside Rabaul surrenders (or is annihilated) by the 1st Australian Brigade. The Rabaul campaign started on April 19th, 1943 with the Allied amphibious assault, and after months of tough fighting, the base was captured on June 11th, 1943, and the Japanese survivors (approx. 30K troops) retreated to the southwest. It took 8 more months to finally root out and destroy this pocket of resistance.




SE Asia/China:
The advance down the Malayan peninsula continues. The encircling movement is in motion. If this maneuver is successful, the 2nd Guards Division and 10+ support units will be encircled. The best part is, the enemy pocket will not hamper advancement or supply of units heading towards the main objective of Singapore. Oh, and keeping a whole division from retreating behind the Singapore fortress is welcomed as well.

A British amphibious assault on northern Sumatra is in the works. A large enemy presence is detected at Sabang, so the assault will hit Langsa with 2 divisions (81st W. African & 11th E. African). One division will advance on Sabang, while the other will head south.

In northern China, the Chinese maintain their defensive stance outside Kaoping, while an offensive opportunity looks to be developing in the Kaifeng area. Early in the week, the Japanese garrison at Kaifeng tries a deliberate attack, but they are surprised when about 1,000 AV arrives (doubling the Allied presence outside the city). The assault is repulsed with heavy casualties (415 squads destroyed). The Allies launch an attack of their own the next turn and send the Japanese fleeing to the southeast. If this advance can take Suchow, the central/southern parts of China will be cut off

In southern China, Foochow is captured. To the West, approximately 2,600 AV arrived in Canton proper and began bombardments. They are currently facing 1,200 AV…almost certainly dug in behind level 9 forts. Canton and Hong Kong are already isolated from outside supply, so the goal will be to grind this down as much as possible. British infantry (and combat engineers) are inbound, and a general attack may be attempted once they arrive in Canton in about 2 weeks.
Japanese pockets at Nanchang (18 units/113K troops) and west of Pucheng (3 units, 25K troops) continue to be worn down.




IJN Watch:
-No enemy capital ships sighted this week.




Notable Base Captures:
- Tsinkiang [China] captured by the Allies (2/16)
- Siquijor [Philippines] occupied by the Allies (2/16)
- Saipan [Marianas] captured by the Allies (2/18)
- Kaifeng [China] captured by the Allies (2/19)
- Foochow [China] captured by the Allies (2/19)
- Pare Pare [Celebes] occupied by the Allied (2/21)
- Damanquilas [Philippines] captured by the Allies (2/22)
- Tawi-Tawi [Philippines] captured by the Allies (2/22)




Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 9,095 [+93]

Japanese: 26,332 [+160]


Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 687 [+8]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Corregidor, CVE Nassau, CVE St.Lo, 5 CA, 14 CL, 28 DD

Japanese: 1,568 [+36]
Notables: CV Akagi, CV Kaga, CV Hiryu, CV Hiyo, CV Junyo, CV Soryu, CV Shokaku, CV Zuikaku, CVL Shoho, CVL Ryuho, CVL Ryujo, CVL Zuiho, CVE Hosho, CVE Taiyo, BB Fuso, BB Haruna, BB Hiei, BB Kongo, BB Mutsu, BB Nagato, BB Yamato, 18 CA, 22 CL, 51 DD


Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 11,292 [+41]
Japanese: 14,386 [+725]
A/J Ratio: 0.78 to 1


VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 74,740 [+1,630]
Japanese: 34,308 [+122]
A/J Ratio: 2.18 to 1




Operation Aperture:
Phase 1:
-Assault & Capture Guam [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Tinian [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Saipan [COMPLETE]

Phase 2:
-Assault & Capture Marcus [COMPLETE]




Operation Chimera:
Phase 1A:
-Assault & Capture Cotabato [COMPLETE]
-Secure Mindano [COMPLETE]

Phase 1B:
-Assault & Capture Balikpapan
-Assault & Capture Jolo [IN PROGRESS - AV 515:421 Forts at 5]
-Reinforce Brunei [IN PROGRESS - Forces en route from Rabaul]

Phase 1C:
-Assault & Capture Watampone [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Kolaka [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Makassar [IN PROGRESS – Forces marching overland from Watampone]
-Assault & Capture Kendari [IN PROGRESS – Forces marching overland from Kolaka]




Other Notes:
-Sub picket lines in the South China Sea account for 7 ships this week [2-AK, 1-LST, 3-TK, 1-E]
-In preparation of the upcoming Sumatra landings, the British CV fleet visits the Straits of Malacca and sinks 11-AKs near Langsa and Georgetown.



jwolf -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (4/22/2019 1:11:23 PM)

Great results at Saipan; certainly must be a relief to capture this base at last.



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (4/23/2019 3:16:06 AM)

Thanks jwolf. It took longer than expected, but I learned a good deal from it. And I better put those lessons to use, the nuts get harder to crack from here on out. [sm=sterb020.gif]



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (5/11/2019 3:42:39 PM)

Week 115: February 23rd – February 29th 1944

North Pacific:
No IJN activity.




Central Pacific:
American engineers on Saipan and the get the base fully repaired by the end of the week. Work begins on the massive task of moving the forward base of operations from Rabaul to Guam, the former being too far behind the front line.




Southern Pacific:
No IJN activity.




South-West Pacific:
Allied forces on Celebes march towards their objectives (with proper follow commands this time). Infantry should reach Makassar tomorrow (3/1) and Kendari about 1 week later. The enemy garrison at Manado has been assaulted and the most recent attack knocked the forts to 0. With the Marianas secure, B-24s are transferred to Morotai (Level 6 AF) and Talaud-Eilanden (Level 8 AF) to give the Celebes campaign some assistance from the air.

Jolo remains a stalemate. The current plan is to blockade the sea approaches and continue with land/sea bombardments to draw down the enemy’s supply. 5 Japanese AKs are sunk attempting to run the blockade around the island.

Tawi-Tawi’s airfield reaches level 3 and the Corsairs, Warhawks, and Lightnings (oh my!) stationed there are staying busy…flying LRCAP over Jolo and performing sweeps of the Japanese airbase at Tarakan.




SE Asia/China:
The advance down the Malayan peninsula continues. The encircling movement is progressing and the 26th Indian Division should cut the road south of Alor Star by mid next week. The other element of this force takes Patani and begins moving down the East coast towards Kota Bahru.

The assault on Sumatra begins mid-week. The 81st Division makes landfall at Langsa, quickly captures the base, and marches northwest towards Sabang. Merrill’s Marauders also land but probe southwest towards Medan with the goal of evaluating the garrison there. Intel spots a single enemy unit, and composition indicates it’s probably just a base force. If the garrison can be overwhelmed, Medan and its developed base facilities will be very valuable, as the current British bridgehead at Langsa is not very developed (1-AF/1-PORT). The whole Sumatra endeavor is supported by a British CV, 2-CVLs, and an American CV (Bunker Hill). Kirishima and friends arrive early in the week and attempt to foil the landings at Langsa, but the CV and surface force escorts do their job. The CV dive bombers manage 8 hits on Kirishima, but as expected, all fail to penetrate her thick deck armor.

In northern China, the advance southeast of Kaifeng is on. The Japanese have retreated into Kweiteh, with the Chinese (2K AV) hot on their tails. A deliberate attack is on tap tomorrow that will evaluate the cities defenses.

In the south, over 100K Chinese/British troops (3,200 AV) are trading bombardments with 80K Japanese (1,300 AV). A general attack will be considered in about a week when another 1,000AV arrive, along with combat engineers.
Japanese pockets at Nanchang (18 units/113K troops) and west of Pucheng (2 units, 23K troops) continue to be worn down.




IJN Watch:
-BB Kirishima + escorts sighted in Strait of Malacca (2/23-2/24)




Notable Base Captures:
- Madjene [Celebes] captured by the Allies (2/24)
- Patani [Malaya] captured by the Allies (2/25)
- Langsa [Sumatra] captured by the Allies (2/26)
- Dinagat [Philippines] occupied by the Allies (2/29)




Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 9,157 [+62]

Japanese: 26,546 [+214]


Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 688 [+1]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Corregidor, CVE Nassau, CVE St.Lo, 5 CA, 14 CL, 28 DD

Japanese: 1,592 [+24]
Notables: CV Akagi, CV Kaga, CV Hiryu, CV Hiyo, CV Junyo, CV Soryu, CV Shokaku, CV Zuikaku, CVL Shoho, CVL Ryuho, CVL Ryujo, CVL Zuiho, CVE Hosho, CVE Taiyo, BB Fuso, BB Haruna, BB Hiei, BB Kongo, BB Mutsu, BB Nagato, BB Yamato, 18 CA, 22 CL, 51 DD


Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 11,302 [+10]
Japanese: 14,701 [+315]
A/J Ratio: 0.77 to 1


VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 75,613 [+873]
Japanese: 34,348 [+40]
A/J Ratio: 2.20 to 1




Operation Chimera:
Phase 1A:
-Assault & Capture Cotabato [COMPLETE]
-Secure Mindano [COMPLETE]

Phase 1B:
-Assault & Capture Balikpapan
-Assault & Capture Jolo [IN PROGRESS - AV 571:429 Forts at 5]
-Reinforce Brunei [IN PROGRESS – support troops and supply unloading]

Phase 1C:
-Assault & Capture Watampone [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Kolaka [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Makassar [IN PROGRESS – Forces marching overland from Watampone]
-Assault & Capture Kendari [IN PROGRESS – Forces marching overland from Kolaka]




Operation Harbinger:
Phase 1:
-Assault & Capture Legaspi
-Assault & Capture Atimonian
-Assault & Capture Lingayen
-Assault & Capture Aparri
-Assault & Capture Manilla

Phase 1a:
-Assault & Capture Ishigaki
-Assault & Capture Miyako-Jima

Phase 2:
-Assault & Capture Okinawa
-Assault & Capture Amami-Oshima




Other Notes:
-Sub picket lines in the South China Sea account for 8 ships this week [4-AK, 2-PB, 1-SC, 1-AO]



jwolf -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (5/13/2019 1:01:48 PM)

Do you have a good surface fleet in or near the Malacca Strait to fend off Kirishima or any similar foes? Does your CV force there have any torpedo bombers?



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (5/18/2019 3:57:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jwolf

Do you have a good surface fleet in or near the Malacca Strait to fend off Kirishima or any similar foes? Does your CV force there have any torpedo bombers?


Affirmative, I have a group of old (or maybe vintage/well experienced are better words) British BB/BCs...Valiant, Q.Elizabeth, and Renown, plus DD escort. Also in the area is a British cruiser force (Sussex, Suffolk, and Exeter).

No torpedo bombers with the CVs. Besides the fact torpedo bombers are rather scarce in the SE Asia theatre, I opted for defense and packed the carriers with fighters. I have some DBs and a squadron of Swordfish at Singora, but that's about it.

Despite all these surface ships, its been the submarine force that has delivered. Stonehenge, Tactician, and Trespasser have all engaged & fired torpedoes at Kirishima in the last few days....and one of Stonehenge's actually hit. The following day, Kirishima retreated south to the safety of Singapore's port facilities. A 4EB port strike may be in it's future...[sm=00000028.gif]




Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (5/24/2019 6:46:39 PM)

Situation Report – March 1st 1944
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Bf6NP3B.jpg[/img]




Central/North Pacific:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/NmCO8Y3.jpg[/img]

Capital Ships:
6-CVE, 1-CVL, 2-BB @Pearl Harbor

Near-Term Plans:
Capture Luzon.

Long Term Plans:
Advance on Okinawa/Formosa, Strategic Bombing.




SW Pacific:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/bZx8lyl.jpg[/img]

Capital Ships: 9-CV, 14-CVE, 3-CVL, 13-BB

Near-Term Plans:
Capture Luzon, keep home islands isolated from DEI

Long Term Plans:
Capture Java/Sumatra




SE Asia/China:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Xx0elso.jpg[/img]

Capital Ships:
2-CV, 1-CVE, 1-BB

Near-Term Plans:
Advance down Malaya Peninsula to threaten Singapore. Capture Sumatra, advance into China

Long Term Plans:
Capture Singapore. Capture Sumatra




Base Supply Status:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/3cDLAvR.jpg[/img]



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (5/27/2019 4:18:19 PM)

Week 116: March 1st – March 7th 1944

North Pacific:
No IJN activity.




Central Pacific:
Allies are moving the final pieces of the Harbinger Phase 1 (Luzon invasion). Troops heading for Legaspi, Atimonian, and Aparri are assembling at Guam, Tinian, and Saipan, respectively. Additional supply convoys have been loaded at Rabaul and are steaming north to join the armada. CV support is anchored at Ulithi for a quick rest & refit. Everything should be ready in about 2 weeks for departure to the Luzon beaches.




Southern Pacific:
No IJN activity.




South-West Pacific:
In the Celebes, Allied infantry reaches Makassar and finds a 170 AV enemy garrison. At Kendari, the enemy is mostly support troops (56 AV). A probing attack in on tap for tomorrow. The enemy garrison on Manado was destroyed early in the week.

Jolo remains a stalemate, however the enemy force is showing signs of cracking. Bombardment attack results have shifted decisively in the Allies favor. Now that the Allies are rested, they will attempt a deliberate attack to test Jolo’s defenses.




SE Asia/China:
The advance down the Malayan peninsula continues. The encircling movement is complete, as the 26th Indian Division cuts the road south of Alor Star and begins marching northwards towards the town. The other element of this force takes Kota Bharu and follows the retreating Japanese along the railroad to the southwest.

The assault on Sumatra begins mid-week. The 81st Division reaches Sabang, where it finds a hodgepodge of enemy troops (320AV) holding the town. Reinforcements (11th Division) make landfall at Langsa and are hurrying up the coastal road. To the south, Merrill’s Marauders reach Medan and in their first assault, they drop the cities forts from 3 to 0. Tomorrows attack should finish the job.

Kirishima and friends disappear from the Malacca Straits, initially Allied command thought she went to Singapore, but a port attack there found only minor surface vessels present. There is a possibilty she is headed to the home islands, if so, the subs in the South China Sea picket line should be in a fine position to intercept.

In northern China, the advance southeast of Kaifeng continues apace. The enemy roadblock at Kwiteh is easily swept aside, and the Chinese should reach Suchow in a day or two.

In southern China, reinforcements have arrived and now over 250K Chinese/American/British troops (6,000 AV) are trading bombardments with 80K Japanese (1,300 AV). The influx of troops caused a temporary supply shortage, but now things are good, so a general attack will be launched early next week.
Japanese pockets at Kuikiang (18 units/120K troops) and west of Pucheng (2 units, 30K troops) continue to be worn down.




IJN Watch:
-No capital ship sightings this week.




Notable Base Captures:
- Manado [Celebes] captured by the Allies (3/1)
- Kwiteh [China] captured by the Allies (3/1)
- Tapul [Philippines] occupied by the Allies (3/6)
- Kota Bharu [Malaya] captured by the Allies (3/6)





Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 9,255 [+98]

Japanese: 26,927 [+381]


Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 693 [+5]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Corregidor, CVE Nassau, CVE St.Lo, 5 CA, 14 CL, 29 DD

Japanese: 1,612 [+20]
Notables: CV Akagi, CV Kaga, CV Hiryu, CV Hiyo, CV Junyo, CV Soryu, CV Shokaku, CV Zuikaku, CVL Shoho, CVL Ryuho, CVL Ryujo, CVL Zuiho, CVE Hosho, CVE Taiyo, BB Fuso, BB Haruna, BB Hiei, BB Kongo, BB Mutsu, BB Nagato, BB Yamato, 18 CA, 22 CL, 51 DD


Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 11,311 [+9]
Japanese: 14,952 [+251]
A/J Ratio: 0.76 to 1


VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 76,465 [+852]
Japanese: 34,336 [-12]
A/J Ratio: 2.23 to 1




Operation Chimera:
Phase 1A:
-Assault & Capture Cotabato [COMPLETE]
-Secure Mindano [COMPLETE]

Phase 1B:
-Assault & Capture Balikpapan
-Assault & Capture Jolo [IN PROGRESS - AV 615:430 Forts at 5]
-Reinforce Brunei [IN PROGRESS – support troops and supply unloading]

Phase 1C:
-Assault & Capture Watampone [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Kolaka [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Makassar [IN PROGRESS – AV 268:173 Forts unknown]
-Assault & Capture Kendari [IN PROGRESS – Forces marching overland from Kolaka]




Operation Harbinger:
Phase 1:
-Assault & Capture Legaspi [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Atimonian [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Lingayen [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Aparri [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Manilla

Phase 2a:
-Assault & Capture Ishigaki
-Assault & Capture Miyako-Jima

Phase 2b:
-Assault & Capture Okinawa
-Assault & Capture Amami-Oshima




Other Notes:
-Sub picket lines in the South China Sea account for 14 ships this week [4-AK, 1-PB, 4-E, 1-SC, 4-TK]



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/2/2019 4:30:51 PM)

Week 117: March 8th – March 14th 1944

North Pacific:
No IJN activity.




Central Pacific:
Preparations continue for the next amphibious assault on Luzon. CV and CVE forces are at Ulithi and have finished filling out their air wings. Now we wait for the supply convoys and a few more ground units to arrive from Rabaul…and then the armada will be ready to depart.




Southern Pacific:
No IJN activity.




South-West Pacific:
In the Celebes, the Allies take Kendari fairly easily. Now most of these troops will shuttle over to Watampone to assist with the capture of Makassar.

The Jolo situation is progressing, as it looks like the Allied blockade is finally paying dividends. Two attacks this week have dropped the forts from 5 to 3. As expected, the Allied troops are fairly exhausted from all the activity, so they will rest up a few days before giving it another go.




SE Asia/China:
The advance down the Malayan peninsula continues. The enemy troops surrounded near Alor Star are being ground down by over 2,300 AV of British & Commonwealth troops. The other element of the Allied force on Malaya is pushing the enemy SW from Koat Bharu and is now two hexes from Temuloh.

In Sumatra the 81st and 11th Divisions reach Sabang, where they rest a bit and ready for a probing assault on the city. To the south, Merrill’s Marauders easily capture Medan and continue on towards Tandjoengbalai (let’s hope the town is easier to capture than it is to spell). While Kirishima has disappeared from sight, BB Musashi shows up in the Malaccan Straits. Allied surface ships effectively screen the enemy BB away from the more vulnerable targets, while CV and land based dive bombers score 11 bomb hits on Musashi. Although all bombs failed to penetrate, they forced Musashi’s retreat to the south.

In northern China, the capture of Suchow is complete, now most of the Chinese force is resting up at Suchow, while a small detachment pursues the fleeing Japanese towards Haichow to the southeast. Paotow is also captured by a small Chinese contingent.

In southern China, a deliberate assault is attempted by the Allies at Canton. The Allies lose 10K troops (32 squads destroyed/981 disabled), and the Japanese lose 5K (31 squads destroyed, 169 Disabled), but the good news is the forts are reduced from 7 to 6. The Allied force is now resting up for another assault. At Sinyang, the Japanese are evicted from the hex to the southeast of the city, which means the enveloping movement is now complete, and there is no escape for over 100k enemy troops (insert evil laugh here).

Japanese pockets at Kuikiang (18 units/120K troops) and west of Pucheng (2 units, 30K troops) continue to be worn down.




IJN Watch:
-BB Musashi sighted in Straits of Malacca (3/9)




Notable Base Captures:
- Medan [Sumatra] captured by the Allies (3/8)
- Kendari [Celebes] captured by the Allies (3/11)
- Paotow [China] captured by the Allies (3/11)
- Suchow [China] captured by the Allies (3/13)
- Anking [China] captured by the Allies (3/14)




Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 9,325 [+70]

Japanese: 27,465 [+538]


Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 697 [+4]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Corregidor, CVE Nassau, CVE St.Lo, 5 CA, 14 CL, 29 DD

Japanese: 1,628 [+16]
Notables: CV Akagi, CV Kaga, CV Hiryu, CV Hiyo, CV Junyo, CV Soryu, CV Shokaku, CV Zuikaku, CVL Shoho, CVL Ryuho, CVL Ryujo, CVL Zuiho, CVE Hosho, CVE Taiyo, BB Fuso, BB Haruna, BB Hiei, BB Kongo, BB Mutsu, BB Nagato, BB Yamato, 18 CA, 22 CL, 51 DD


Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 11,380 [+69]
Japanese: 15,438 [+486]
A/J Ratio: 0.74 to 1


VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 77,592 [+1,127]
Japanese: 34,444 [+108]
A/J Ratio: 2.25 to 1




Operation Chimera:
Phase 1A:
-Assault & Capture Cotabato [COMPLETE]
-Secure Mindano [COMPLETE]

Phase 1B:
-Assault & Capture Balikpapan
-Assault & Capture Jolo [IN PROGRESS - AV 464:270 Forts at 3]
-Reinforce Brunei [COMPLETE]

Phase 1C:
-Assault & Capture Watampone [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Kolaka [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Makassar [IN PROGRESS – AV 273:179 Forts unknown]
-Assault & Capture Kendari [COMPLETE]




Operation Harbinger:
Phase 1:
-Assault & Capture Legaspi [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Atimonian [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Lingayen [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Aparri [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Manilla

Phase 2a:
-Assault & Capture Ishigaki
-Assault & Capture Miyako-Jima

Phase 2b:
-Assault & Capture Okinawa
-Assault & Capture Amami-Oshima




Other Notes:
-Sub picket lines in the South China Sea account for 7 ships this week [1-AK, 1-LST, 3-E, and 2-TK]



jwolf -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/10/2019 5:03:02 PM)

Can you get some torpedo bombers stationed to cover the Malacca Strait at fairly close range, to stay away from Singapore's airspace? It would be great to put one or two fish into the Musashi and knock it out of action for a while.



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/15/2019 6:46:56 AM)

Good suggestion jwolf. Unfortunately the pickings are slim in SE Asia when it comes to torpedo bombers. All I have are two squadrons of Barracuda II's, and they are at Singora on Naval attack. I've thought about transferring over some American Devastators, but they are needed in the SW and Central Pacific at the moment.

The good news is that while planes couldn't put a torp in Musashi, on the 19th, the boys in the Silent service (credit to SS Grampus) put two into her as she crossed the sub picket lines in the South China Sea. The following day Musashi is on the sunk ship report, and naval earch in the area seems to back this up. Glug-glug-glug...[:D]



Bif1961 -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/15/2019 3:14:46 PM)

Did you see ground loses for her search planes on the aircraft lose screen?



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI (6/21/2019 7:56:02 PM)

Drat, I wish I had thought to check for search plane losses. I just went off of my naval search results during the subsequent turns. I'll keep that in mind for next time, thanks for the tip Bif!



Korvar -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI (6/21/2019 9:33:34 PM)

Schlussel,

You're doing an excellent job with the maps and summaries of your game. They make it very easy to follow along.



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI (6/22/2019 2:09:20 PM)

Thank you for the kind words sir.

I would like to note that I recently came across your Allied Ship Insignia / Patch Additions thread and downloaded the patches. Excellent work.[&o]



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI (6/27/2019 4:25:56 AM)

Week 118: March 15th – March 21st 1944

North Pacific:
No IJN activity.




Central Pacific:
Two fully prepped New Zealand battalions land at Rota and quickly take the base and destroy 50 planes on the ground. The defenders were just support forces low on supply, and the commonwealth forces made quick work of them.

The Luzon invasion is ready to commence. Assault troops are loading at Guam and Tinian for the first two targets, Legaspi and Atimonian. 2 ASW Task forces lead 10 fleet carriers, 2 CVLs, 9 CVEs, 9 BBs. All this is protecting the vulnerable amphibious fleets, which hold 3 infantry divisions (6th 32nd, 37th) along with engineers, artillery and AA.
The plan is to hit Legaspi first, then the Allied battlegroup will move about the left flank and conduct a landing at Atimonian. Meanwhile the transports (and their CVE escorts) from the Legaspi landing will head back to Saipan to pick up the Aparri force. If all goes well, the Atimonian landings will be finishing up just as the transports are coming back from Saipan, and the groups can unite and head to Aparri. Sounds like a perfect plan…and that has me a little worried.




Southern Pacific:
No IJN activity.




South-West Pacific:
In the Celebes, the Allies force at Kendari begins the overland march to Makassar. All assault shipping is currently being used for the Luzon invasions, so the Celebes force has to hoof it.

Japanese resistance collapses on Jolo, and the Allies take it after assaults on successive days. Damage is 100 on all base facilities, so engineers will have their hands full for a bit.




SE Asia/China:
The advance down the Malayan peninsula continues. The Japanese 2nd Guards Division surrounded NE of Alor Star finally surrenders. The other enemy troops surrounded at Alor Star are being ground down by over 2,300 AV of British & Commonwealth troops. The other element of the Allied force on Malaya is pushing the enemy SW from Kota Bharu and is now one hex from Temuloh.

In Sumatra the 81st and 11th Divisions assault Sabang three times this week and reduce the defenders AV from 430 to 255 and forts from 7 to 5. To the south, Merrill’s Marauders reach and capture Tandjoengbalai, where they take a breather to recover disablements.

BBs Yamashiro and Hyuga show up near Malacca and puff out their chests, strutting around but ultimately doing nothing. Meanwhile BB Musashi tries to run the sub gauntlet in the South China Sea to get back to the safety of the home islands. She pays a hefty price for this gamble, as SS Pampinito puts two fish into her near Puerto Princesa. Then two days later SS Drum hit her with 1 (no explosion) and SS Grampus hits her with two more. Intel reports she sank a day later near Orchid Island.
In northern China, the Chinese consolidate their gains near Suchow and switch to a defensive posture, while a minor advance continues near Paotow towards Kweisui.

In southern China, 2 deliberate assaults are attempted by the Allies at Canton. The Allies lose 7K troops (53 squads destroyed/726 disabled), and the Japanese lose 5K (2 squads destroyed, 98 Disabled), but the good news is the forts are reduced from 6 to 4. Also a flanking force has successfully cut the road from Canton to Hong Kong, this should exacerbate the Japanese supply problem. At Sinyang, the Japanese are surrounded, but continue to fight tooth and nail for this strategic city. A few deliberates were attempted by the Allies, but they were rebuffed with heavy casualties, and the forts remain at 6.

Japanese pockets at Kuikiang (18 units/120K troops) and west of Pucheng (2 units, 30K troops) continue to be worn down.




IJN Watch:
-BB Musashi and BB Kirishima sighted in S. China Sea (3/16)
-BB Yamashiro and BB Hyuga sighted in straits of Malacca (3/17)
-BB Musashi sighted south of Formosa (3/18)




Notable Base Captures:
- Rota [Marianas] captured by the Allies (3/15)
- Tandjoengbalai [Sumatra] captured by the Allies (3/19)
- Jolo [Philippines] captured by the Allies (3/20)




Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 9,406 [+81]

Japanese: 27,822 [+357]


Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 701 [+4]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Corregidor, CVE Nassau, CVE St.Lo, 5 CA, 14 CL, 29 DD

Japanese: 1,645 [+17]
Notables: CV Akagi, CV Kaga, CV Hiryu, CV Hiyo, CV Junyo, CV Soryu, CV Shokaku, CV Zuikaku, CVL Shoho, CVL Ryuho, CVL Ryujo, CVL Zuiho, CVE Hosho, CVE Taiyo, BB Fuso, BB Haruna, BB Hiei, BB Kongo, BB Mutsu, BB Nagato, BB Yamato, BB Musashi, 18 CA, 22 CL, 51 DD


Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 11,442 [+62]
Japanese: 15,786 [+300]
A/J Ratio: 0.72 to 1


VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 78,454 [+862]
Japanese: 34,625 [+181]
A/J Ratio: 2.27 to 1




Operation Chimera:
Phase 1A:
-Assault & Capture Cotabato [COMPLETE]
-Secure Mindano [COMPLETE]

Phase 1B:
-Assault & Capture Balikpapan
-Assault & Capture Jolo [COMPLETE]
-Reinforce Brunei [COMPLETE]

Phase 1C:
-Assault & Capture Watampone [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Kolaka [COMPLETE]
-Assault & Capture Makassar [IN PROGRESS – AV 278:183 Forts unknown]
-Assault & Capture Kendari [COMPLETE]




Operation Harbinger:
Phase 1:
-Assault & Capture Legaspi [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Atimonian [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Lingayen [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Aparri [Forces assembling in Marianas]
-Assault & Capture Manilla

Phase 2a:
-Assault & Capture Ishigaki
-Assault & Capture Miyako-Jima

Phase 2b:
-Assault & Capture Okinawa
-Assault & Capture Amami-Oshima




Other Notes:
-Sub picket lines in the South China Sea account for 10 ships this week [1-AK, 1-BB, 2-E, and 6-TK]



jwolf -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI (6/27/2019 1:36:33 PM)

quote:

... amphibious fleets, which hold 3 infantry divisions (6th 32nd, 37th) along with engineers, artillery and AA.


You don't say it here, at least not explicitly, but I hope you are bringing air and naval support units as well. It's critical to get LBA fighter cover ASAP to relieve the burden on your carriers. And the naval support will help to make the unloading of follow-up units go a lot faster.

I'm still skeptical the Musashi went down. It (and Yamato) are both very hard to sink. But it is surely knocked out of action for a long time, and that is the really important thing.



HansBolter -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI (6/27/2019 3:15:28 PM)

Why are your supply and fuel stocks so low, especially at Pearl?

I'm at December 12, 1945 in my current Ironman AI game with the following levels:

Pearl: 10 million supply - 5 million fuel.

Tinian: 750k supply (main B29 base)

Guam: 350k supply - 400k fuel

Agrihan: 250k supply - 250k fuel

Naha: 750k supply - 400k fuel

Nagasaki: 500k supply - 500k fuel

Shimoniseki: 300k supply - 200k fuel

Tokoyama: 500k supply - 150k fuel

Have you not been establishing Continuous Supply convoys to your major hubs?

In addition to the CS TF plying back and forth between SanFran and my major forward hubs, by this time in the game I have 22 independent Supply Divisions plying back and forth between San Fran and the front lines each consisting of 40 Liberty or Victory ships with escorts. Each carries 250k supply and 20k fuel with the Victory ship TFs carrying slightly more.

This equates to 5.5 million supply being moved with each run of all SupDivs. Obviously they aren't all moving in concert, but the total supply on the move at any given time is massive.

I have somewhere around 8 Fuel Divisions moving anywhere from 170k to 325k fuel each.

The Americans have more than sufficient ships to move massive amounts of supply and fuel. Your stated totals look like you didn't make much effort to utilize the available assets.



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI (6/28/2019 6:38:25 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jwolf

quote:

... amphibious fleets, which hold 3 infantry divisions (6th 32nd, 37th) along with engineers, artillery and AA.


You don't say it here, at least not explicitly, but I hope you are bringing air and naval support units as well. It's critical to get LBA fighter cover ASAP to relieve the burden on your carriers. And the naval support will help to make the unloading of follow-up units go a lot faster.

I'm still skeptical the Musashi went down. It (and Yamato) are both very hard to sink. But it is surely knocked out of action for a long time, and that is the really important thing.


Correct sir, I should have mentioned support units. I've got air support & base forces en route to each base. They aren't fully prepped so they are strat loaded and will disembark once their target base is captured. I didn't send any naval support yet, as I have them in the Marianas and Mindano. But I will definitely send some to Luzon as soon as the amphibious ops wind down.

I totally agree with you about the Musashi, shes a tough broad. Although I have pretty good recon in the South China Sea/Formosa area and I haven't picked up any scent at all. I have Musashi on my sunk ship list for now, but I will monitor and update it if necessary. Plus, like you said, if shes in the yards for the rest of the war, thats just as good as a sinking (except for the VP haul).

quote:

Why are your supply and fuel stocks so low, especially at Pearl?

I'm at December 12, 1945 in my current Ironman AI game with the following levels:

Pearl: 10 million supply - 5 million fuel.

Tinian: 750k supply (main B29 base)

Guam: 350k supply - 400k fuel

Agrihan: 250k supply - 250k fuel

Naha: 750k supply - 400k fuel

Nagasaki: 500k supply - 500k fuel

Shimoniseki: 300k supply - 200k fuel

Tokoyama: 500k supply - 150k fuel

Have you not been establishing Continuous Supply convoys to your major hubs?

In addition to the CS TF plying back and forth between SanFran and my major forward hubs, by this time in the game I have 22 independent Supply Divisions plying back and forth between San Fran and the front lines each consisting of 40 Liberty or Victory ships with escorts. Each carries 250k supply and 20k fuel with the Victory ship TFs carrying slightly more.

This equates to 5.5 million supply being moved with each run of all SupDivs. Obviously they aren't all moving in concert, but the total supply on the move at any given time is massive.

I have somewhere around 8 Fuel Divisions moving anywhere from 170k to 325k fuel each.

The Americans have more than sufficient ships to move massive amounts of supply and fuel. Your stated totals look like you didn't make much effort to utilize the available assets.


I have to admit Hans, you kinda burst my bubble on the supply thing. While I am by no means an expert, I felt like in my first grand campaign I have been doing above average in the supply department. I've had no issues (with fuel or supply) conducting an increased 1944 operations tempo, and all my supply ships are in use. I normally collect xAKs in SF and then once about 10 xAKs are present, I form them into a CS TF and put them to work. While you are about a year and a half ahead of me in game time, the data you present will make me re-evaluate my supply situation. I have time to catch up, but the continuing ramp up of Allied operations will probably nullify this. Only time will tell.

One thing to note: actual game time is 3/31/1944 and the supply levels at the forward bases do look a bit better than my 3/1 report (there were a bunch of supply TFs in route from SF to the Marianas at the beginning of march). Below is a quick snippet of the changes:

-The Marianas are now at 1.5 million supply and about 900K fuel (and this is after the Luzon invasions have refueled and departed with 150K supply)
-Mindano and Celebes are both near 120K supply and climbing.
-Sumatra is near 500K supply

The only anomaly to this trend is Pearl Harbor, which is at 4.5 million supply and 6 million fuel. The drop in supply is a direct result of the seizure of Marcus. Now I have convoys at SF going straight to the Marianas, instead of dropping it off at Pearl and having another convoy shuttle it from Pearl to the Marianas.

I am interested to hear about your supply/fuel division TFs. Why do you operate these separately from the CS supply runs you have set up?



Aksully -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/29/2019 1:21:08 AM)

Hello Hans,

Quick question regarding to dealing with the Loads of IBoats the AI stacks up around Pearl at the beginning...

1) What is a decent reaction range for ASW ops against the subs?

2) Best to send out as many single ship DD ASW or multiple DD TF's

3) For search efforts is it preferable to set specific search arcs for any surviving PBY's or not select arcs?

4) Best altitude for PBY Naval Search/Attack missions against the subs?

Thanks in advance in helping new folks to the game!



Schlussel -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/29/2019 2:55:41 AM)

Welcome to the thread Aksully!

1. I found that if I gave my ASW task forces a patrol zone, with a reaction range of 2, it worked very well. I spaced my ASW task forces about 2 hexes apart, covering the inbound shipping routes (N.East) and the outbound shipping routes (West and S.West). In addition, I had 2 roving ASW TFs that I would vector onto any subs shown on the map. Allied ASW skills are pretty dismal at first, but they will get better, and the more they attack enemy subs, the better they get.

2. Following advice I received on this forum, I used TFs of 3 DD's and gave them commanders with good naval & aggression ratings.

3. I've read many discussions on this topic and decided I would not use specific search arcs at Pearl. My reasoning is this: Specific search arcs at their highest effectiveness when you can narrow down the search vectors, and even then, their effectiveness versus 'no search arcs' is debatable. However at Pearl, you will find that the IJN subs will pop up all around the compass, so setting specific arcs will possibly leave certain areas weakly reconned. I've found that early in the war, your best defense against subs is to simply spot them from the air. if they are spotted, they will have a harder time making successful intercepts of your merchants.

4. I use 1,000' for my ASW search altitude. I've also used 100' but in my humble opinion, that it is too low and I found I didn't get as many sub spottings. I've tried higher altitudes as well (up to about 6,000'), the thought here is it allows the search planes to scan more ocean, but too high and the planes can't spot a lone sub anyway. I have found 1000' is a good middle ground. Remember its not paramount that your planes attack the enemy subs, spotting them and forcing them to dive is almost as good. If they're spotted, they will have a harder time making their attack runs, and it will allow you to vector in your roving ASW TFs.

As always, this is just my experience, and I welcome any other fourumites to chime in with their perspectives.



Aksully -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/29/2019 3:04:06 AM)

Thanks Schlussel I really appreciate the clarification! I'm storing your comments in my Databank! Hope all is well there in Sacramento. I loved the city when I was stationed at Travis AFB back in the early 80's!
Have a great weekend!



HansBolter -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/29/2019 11:56:33 AM)

Supply Divisions:

The idea for supply divisions started in at a point where I already had CS convoys established to all of my forward hubs and Liberty ships started accumulating in San Fran.

I use SF as my main supply hub and LA as my main fuel hub as each seemed to be the main centers where those commodities accumulated most heavily. This resulted in my sending every new xAK to SF and every new tanker to LA.

As the liberty ship buildup increased and I started needing very large allotments of supply to accompany invasions I decided to form SupDivs to operate with my CarDivs, BatDivs, CruDivs and such as I moved to secure new footholds. 40 Liberty ships equates to an even quarter million supply and 20k fuel and seemed reasonably sized without being gargantuan. At first I added 8 escorts to each, but have since scaled that back as the Japanese navy's operating area has become restricted to the HI in late '45.

Victory ships start arriving long after the Liberty ships start accumulating. You don't get them in as large a volume as the Liberty ships. They have slightly shorter legs than the Liberties, but carry slightly more cargo and fuel and are much faster. I think 2 of my 22 SupDivs are filled with Victory ships.

As my SupDivs accumulated I was able to move allotments of 1-2 million supply at one time in one operation without putting any strain on the infrastructure. When I came to the Marianas in late summer of '44 I brought 2 million supply along in the initial wave followed pretty quickly by another 2 million. Once established in the Marianas my SupDivs started plying back and forth between SF and Guam, arriving but not unloading, so I could have a huge aboard ship stockpile there to support the next moves.

I brought 2 million supply with me to Okinawa and sent another 2 million to China once I was established at Okinawa. The invasion of Kyushu brought another 4 million. The massive size of the American navy in late 45 is staggering.



HansBolter -> RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition (6/29/2019 12:04:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aksully

Hello Hans,

Quick question regarding to dealing with the Loads of IBoats the AI stacks up around Pearl at the beginning...

1) What is a decent reaction range for ASW ops against the subs?

I set my reaction ranges equal to the normal movement rate of the TF, typically 3-4. No idea if this is optimum, just what made sense to me. Remember to get reactions you need to be Patrolling. If you want to cover a specific hex, NEVER send the TF out to Remain on Station in a single hex. Remain on Station overrides Reaction. In this instance assign a one hex patrol pattern. This is true for ASW, Sub and Surface Combat TFs..

2) Best to send out as many single ship DD ASW or multiple DD TF's.

Never use single ship ASW TFs unless you have no choice. Single ships are nothing but targets for the subs. A dev once told us 3 is the optimum number and the available 4th ship slot is useless to fill. I try to put 3 ships in my TFs whenever possible.

3) For search efforts is it preferable to set specific search arcs for any surviving PBY's or not select arcs?

I don't use arcs. See no benefit in them, especially since even with arcs set you are still searching 360 degrees for the first 4 hexes.

4) Best altitude for PBY Naval Search/Attack missions against the subs?

Searching at the default Nav search altitude of 6k works fine to reveal all subs in the area being covered. ASW missions though are better al lower altitudes of 1k-2k.

Thanks in advance in helping new folks to the game!




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