warspite1 -> RE: Dinner Party (10/17/2015 2:21:06 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Zap I would invite Pope UrbanII and Baldwin of Boulogne.sitting in front of them Salatan. Remember the Pope is a Head of State so he would not be considered a relious in this case. I just would want to hear directly the mindset. The Muslim leader I imagine would not be much different then those who pronounce jihad today. And on the other side it would be similar to today. preserve culture and freedom. warspite1 [&:] What is the question. Did I not clarify enough. I would really be interested in seeing the exchange. UrbanII called the first Crusade Salatin first leader to call jihad. warspite1 As per post 1 and 62, I asked for no religious leaders or followers. My definition may have been far from perfect, but I think to suggest a Pope is not included in that definition is stretching it somewhat - especially one that called for the First Crusade. As for Salatan or Salatin or whoever, I can see no reference to him on Google, but the fact you say he ordered the first Jihad, just invites responses we could do without. As said in post 62, the reason I asked for this exclusion was not anti-religious sentiment on my own part, just simply I don't want to get into all that. It never ends well.
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