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Footslogger -> OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/29/2016 8:48:35 PM)
I saw this article today saying that an Iranian drone flew over a US and French Aircraft Carrier. What would normally be done if a drone did fly over? Did the carrier stand down or was this propaganda? http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/state-tv-iran-flew-drone-over-us-aircraft-carrier/ar-BBoQUlW?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=iehp [sm=sign0006.gif]

ckacres -> RE: OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/29/2016 10:54:15 PM)
What normally would have happened is the Iranians would never have done this under more compitant leadership. There is no longer any fear of retaliation.

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/30/2016 12:07:06 AM)
Nothing new under the sun The soviets used to do close passes with their Tu-16 Badgers check this really close one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3bijF2--os regrettably this ended badly, with the bomber crashing afterwards

BBfanboy -> RE: OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/30/2016 4:41:22 AM)
What caused that Badger to crash? Low speed stall? Wingtip dipping in the ocean? Did the Russians accuse the US of shooting it down? On the subject of the drone overflight, my reaction was "Meh!", but the posted notion that it should justify starting a shooting war is scary. Keeping cool is a better policy than the hair trigger IMO.

Lokasenna -> RE: OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/30/2016 5:14:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ckacres What normally would have happened is the Iranians would never have done this under more compitant leadership. There is no longer any fear of retaliation. You mean... their leaders are incompetent? Because I'm fairly certain that our leaders are pretty much the same as they've always been. Get real.

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/30/2016 2:08:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy What caused that Badger to crash? Low speed stall? Wingtip dipping in the ocean? Did the Russians accuse the US of shooting it down? On the subject of the drone overflight, my reaction was "Meh!", but the posted notion that it should justify starting a shooting war is scary. Keeping cool is a better policy than the hair trigger IMO. According to this: http://www.emmitsburg.net/archive_list/articles/misc/cww/2010/sea.htm The Soviets decided to keep this classified, so they didn't accuse the US publicly In another webpage they said it was a wingtip dipping in the ocean, followed by cartwheel. Also notice there was no escape possible from a Tu-16: this is from the linked article: "Those missions were dangerous. They were very long (12 – 14 hours) and there was no escape from them if you got in trouble." No escape hatches or ejection seats. You were trapped in what the crewmen called "a flying coffin "from liftoff until the return to their home bases in the Kola Peninsula near Murmansk . "

kbfchicago -> RE: OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/30/2016 2:28:44 PM)
quote: There is no longer any fear of retaliation. Yea...I want my children (or your children) since I am now too old to serve, to die in Iran become some dum# as# politician (or senior military officer on site) thought this was an affront to his/her masculinity? No thanks. I think we did just fine, thank you very much current leadership. Have actually served during and following the cold war...as have many on this forum, this is nothing. Cooler heads and perspective... the quote of day here is: quote: "Meh!"

Dili -> RE: OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/30/2016 4:32:21 PM)
If you were a soldier of Cold War you should know one of the ways for a surprise attack was "exercises".

jamesjohns -> RE: OT: Propaganda or Proof? (1/30/2016 11:38:53 PM)
Can we please refrain from political comments on this board? It's a topic that will quickly ruin a board. Let's stick to debating what if Japan landed at Darwin or what fighter was best in WWII. Plenty of other places on the web to comment on current leadership or politics.

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