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BrianG -> RE: 121 LAST CLEAR Final (5/30/2017 2:09:48 AM)

South east of Moscow.

I will attack come snow against weaker held hexes.

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BrianG -> RE: 121 LAST CLEAR Final (5/30/2017 2:11:24 AM)

North Moscow. My early thrust , if held, will cause headaches for Sillyflower.

I will dig in and push in all good units to hold these north Moscow area hexes.!!

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BrianG -> RE: 121 LAST CLEAR Final (5/30/2017 2:13:42 AM)

F

Just remembered I forgot to fly in air supply to deep units.

Just another General now[:-] on the do not return list.



BrianG -> LAST CLEAR Final (5/31/2017 11:32:41 PM)

I've been informed that we are not playing variable weather.

thus next turn is mud.

My lines better hold!



EwaldvonKleist -> RE: LAST CLEAR Final (6/2/2017 9:36:36 PM)

How is the oil/fuel situation with the south lost?

Do you still produce more than you use each turn?
Well done at Moscow, looks like silly didnt saw that coming.



BrianG -> RE: LAST CLEAR Final (6/3/2017 12:36:49 AM)

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How is the oil/fuel situation with the south lost? Do you still produce more than you use each turn? Well done at Moscow, looks like silly didnt saw that coming.



I posted a oil/fuel production and weekly report a few panels ago.

Oil seems sufficient atm. But I'm no expert.

He has flown zero recon except for the Saratov area.



BrianG -> MUD (7/4/2017 7:20:36 PM)

122 german countermoves to my last clear turn attacks

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BrianG -> RE: MUD (7/4/2017 7:21:35 PM)

122

open area MOSCOW

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BrianG -> RE: MUD (7/4/2017 7:23:51 PM)

Somehow, during these last attacks, I have located his strong 2 SS tank divisions. and 1 turn later I found another just west of Penza breakthrough,

I will moves tank corp from far north (5th shock corp but is comprised 5 tank corps) south. Maybe near Penza.

And as for this German mud tank attack. Over 1400 (mud ready) German AFV. Must have been real big reason they wanted the hex.[:-]

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BrianG -> 123 air supply (7/4/2017 7:30:03 PM)

Here the Luftwaffe flies unopposed to resupply the trapped tanks.


Interdiction.

Is that in the manual?

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BrianG -> 123 russian move (7/4/2017 7:31:07 PM)

Here is my big mud attack. Also will attack it turn 124. same results.

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M60A3TTS -> RE: 123 russian move (7/5/2017 12:56:03 AM)

These attacks of yours are too far east.

As soon as the rivers are frozen, I'd punch through with an eye getting to the west of Voronezh.

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BrianG -> RE: 123 russian move (7/7/2017 11:41:58 PM)

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These attacks of yours are too far east. As soon as the rivers are frozen, I'd punch through with an eye getting to the west of Voronezh. https://www.dropbox.com/s/fovnd77xeq738tz/Brian%20Ph%201.jpg?dl=0






Now under consideration



BrianG -> 125 Last mud 43 (7/7/2017 11:44:25 PM)

Here my new unproven 8th mech will be moved near Penza.

possible moves shown by train

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BrianG -> 125 Last mud 43 (7/7/2017 11:45:47 PM)

Vasili will be moved to Western HQ.

Here is picture of other higher hq's

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BrianG -> RE: 125 Last mud 43 (7/7/2017 11:48:07 PM)

Final Mud Far North.

Tank corp which was at upper end has been moved to Penza. This was the 5th shock Army

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BrianG -> RE: 125 LAst mud 43 (7/7/2017 11:49:37 PM)

Final Kalinin area.

The VP city here be surrounded and then reattached to the motherland.

I want the rr line to reach Moscow without German zoc

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BrianG -> RE: 125 Last MUD (7/7/2017 11:51:50 PM)

Final Moscow.

I think my forward units will be hard to budge with very high CV's.

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BrianG -> RE: 125 Last MUD (7/7/2017 11:56:13 PM)

Penza area final.


Holding off the Germans here will be an issue. I assume he will find at least one weak spot and breakthrough.

Does he have enough to launch really scary counteroffensive? THAT IS THE QUESTION!

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BrianG -> RE: 125 Last MUD (7/7/2017 11:57:20 PM)

Saratov final.

I retreat from forward lines down south and bulk up front line.

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BrianG -> RE: 125 Last MUD (7/7/2017 11:58:01 PM)

far far south

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BrianG -> RE: 125 Last MUD (7/7/2017 11:58:48 PM)

my partisans are here. Very thin everywhere else

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BrianG -> 126 first snow (7/11/2017 5:54:18 PM)

Here is the Germans attack on left side of action.

He did not even send in planes to soften up the hex.

I had over 100 CV in hex

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BrianG -> 126 first snow (7/11/2017 5:55:13 PM)

And the right side attack

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: 126 first snow (7/11/2017 7:06:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BrianG

Here is the Germans attack on left side of action.

He did not even send in planes to soften up the hex.

I had over 100 CV in hex





Lets see, 3 SS Divisions with Manstein & Eng Val of 28. Who needs to soften anything up with that. Plus, would you have been able to do any sort of damage to the softening up Air force if he did fly it? Because Sillyflower routinely posts (boasts more like it) about how many A/C he shoots down of yours ;-)

Just my 2 cents, until the Air War is under control to the Soviets side the Soviets arent going anywhere fast. (of course the morale auto change is a given too)



chaos45 -> RE: 126 first snow (7/11/2017 9:09:58 PM)

personally I think your offensive units are to dispersed. You have to do a soviet panzerball if you want to start recovering ground. You have tank corps scattered into 3 different operational areas when the German army is actually at 100% strength, with air superiority and holding in general a good defensive line.

You are costing yourself losses at this point....where his infantry are holding the line use infantry corps and artillery divisions to grind him....

Then pick an area you really want and slam head on with all of your tank, mech, and cav corps along with artillery support and overwhelming amounts of fighter loaded airbases.

Yes he will move his tanks to block but forcing his tanks to fight without the support of dug-in german infantry holding the flanks and good positions will allow you to attrit them and maybe make progress.



BrianG -> RE: 126 first snow (7/11/2017 10:49:00 PM)

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personally I think your offensive units are to dispersed. You have to do a soviet panzerball if you want to start recovering ground. You have tank corps scattered into 3 different operational areas when the German army is actually at 100% strength, with air superiority and holding in general a good defensive line.


My tanks north of Moscow are there for that mini breakthrough which will help me retake Moscow at some future time. They cant move until relieved.

I have just brought my tanks from 5th shock south and now (secret) am moving my 1st guards which is all tank to penza area. that would leave about 2 armies of tanks east of Saratov, 1 near Moscow and the rest near Penza.

My trapped units must be saved at all cost. It may also offer me an opportunity to fight all his tanks in one spot!


Aircorp needs a talking too from Stalin himself.



BrianG -> rr (7/11/2017 10:51:29 PM)

I only get 40,000 rr movement points a turn thus hindering moving armor over far distances.




ajds -> RE: rr (7/11/2017 11:23:28 PM)

Each of those was 1700+ german panzers on attack with plenty of Panthers (Manstein had Tigers for sure) supported by big time combat engineering. And more artillery than the defenders. Almost the irresistable force.

Where are your sturmoviks - 100 soviet bombers is not cutting it.



M60A3TTS -> RE: 126 first snow (7/12/2017 4:52:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BrianG

quote:

personally I think your offensive units are to dispersed. You have to do a soviet panzerball if you want to start recovering ground. You have tank corps scattered into 3 different operational areas when the German army is actually at 100% strength, with air superiority and holding in general a good defensive line.


My tanks north of Moscow are there for that mini breakthrough which will help me retake Moscow at some future time. They cant move until relieved.

I have just brought my tanks from 5th shock south and now (secret) am moving my 1st guards which is all tank to penza area. that would leave about 2 armies of tanks east of Saratov, 1 near Moscow and the rest near Penza.

My trapped units must be saved at all cost. It may also offer me an opportunity to fight all his tanks in one spot!


Aircorp needs a talking too from Stalin himself.



Sorry, but I just see no value at all in having a single tank corps east of Tambov.

East of Saratov, what is there to protect? If you launch a massed attack of tank, cavalry and mech forces in the west, Sillyflower has to respond. You need him to abandon the whole Saratov area by threatening his rear, hence my previous suggestion to strike south-southwest in the Voronezh area. In the off-chance he tries to go east of Saratov, you can always move more troops by rail, but he has no incentive to this late in the game.



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