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ComDev -> RE: [802] - airborne assault still not working properly (3/15/2016 8:57:18 PM)
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Thanks for your feedback MX1, some comments below:
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ORIGINAL: mx1
Tested with B802 (1.11 RC 1). This is a repost of the issue from the old thread - http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3992700&mpage=1&key=? as I think it was missed among other posts.
I am trying to design airborne assault mission using helos - mission profile would be:
- take off from airfield
- fast and low movement to landing zone
- slow and low hover in landing zone
The return would be achieved by reassigning helos to different mission or issuing RTB (thanks for this feature BTW).
I've tried:
1. Setup support mission with custom profile (alt and speed override).
2. Setup patrol mission with custom profile.
My observations
A. The altitude override works properly only over sea - when helo is over land then minimum altitude changes to 500 ft AGL (Above the Ground Level - I guess). So no way to fly at for example 150 ft. I can't change altitude even if unit is not assigned to mission. Minimum flight/hover level seems to be 500 ft over land. I do understand that in order to follow terrain unit needs to be equipped with appropiate devices (TFR) but why the minimum altitude above sea is 150ft and above flat ground 500 ft? It doesn't make much sense.
You're operating the helo at night, right? Minimum altitude depends on pilot skills, weather, and time-of-day [8D]
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B. When custom profile is assigned to support mission i.e. I set up transit and station speed, the station speed is turned on automatically around 10 miles before target reference point (LZ). So 10 miles before landing zone helo slows down from for example 130 kts to 55 kts. So really fast approach to LZ is not possible. I can set up high speed for station to avoid slow down but this would be unrealistic as the station speed should really be 0 or at least 'creep'.
Yeah v1.11 use buffered zones which allows you to even use one-RefPoint patrol areas. Using support missions to simulate helo drops is kinda not what they were intended for. Need to use manually plotted courses or wait for strike planner I'm afraid... sorry [:)]
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C. Patrol mission can be used instead of support but still transit/station speed change occurs (at around 5 miles before 1st RP).
Again, buffered zones [:)]
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Conclusion
I still think that additional mission type should be added for airborne assault with the ability to use low altitude at station and no slow down before destination RP. Alternatively support mission should have switch that will override the 10 miles before target slow down.
Regarding the minimum altitude - I still think this is bug - helicopters quite often fly below this level in real life, and you don't need special equipment to hover helo at 20 ft above the ground so the 'station terrain following' should not require special equipment if the station speed is 'creep/loiter'.
Example scenario attached.
Thanks [8D]
Massive improvements are planned, we just need to put things in the right order and implement stuff from the bottom up. Which is what we're currently doing. Version 1.11 fixed quite a few issues and we'll continue working in v1.12. Until all models are fully operational I guess we'll just have to accept a few abstractions here-and-there.
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