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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

I'm planning to give the members of the SPWAW community the first chance to be part of Steel Tigers early in the process, we're just still working on enough architectural stuff now that we're not quite at that point yet. I would very much like to have strong SPWAW community involvement, input, feedback, advice, etc. and make sure we bring the best parts of SPWAW and all the great work the community has added forward with the new engine to secure the future of SP-style gaming.

Regards,

- Erik

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ORIGINAL: Riitaoja2

I really can not see any competition between TotH and the Steel Tigers project.

Sorry if I offend anyone but in my opinion Tigers on the Hunt is your standard old school ugly looking and dry/slow cardboard counters on a simple hex grid type war game of the ancient past. I'm sure there is a niche market for that type of game but Steel Panthers successor it is not.

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ORIGINAL: milkweg

Can't share even one pic of the artwork?

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ORIGINAL: Freyr Oakenshield

Actually, I thought "Tigers on the Hunt" was supposed to be that tactical wargame from Gary Grigsby. Now, I'm a little bit surprised. With GG's title being yet another tactical game, and TotH already in place, it's getting a bit crowded in the niche...

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ORIGINAL: PipFromSlitherine

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ORIGINAL: wodin

OK just read that the SUB engine i.e Battle Academy is the basis of the new Archon engine that will be used for Steel Tigers....make your own conclusions.

From Pip over at Slitherine

"We are continuing to support the STUB engine going forward, and it is the basis for the new Archon engine too.

Cheers

Pip"

So is ST going to be a watered down Steel Panthers that will sell on mobiles etc, like a gritty Battle Academy? I know there is Tigers on the Hunt in development which you'll say is for the hardcore however in my opinion it has a long way to go and isn't what a new SP would be like. I really hope this isn't the case and ST is a true successor to SP doing what SP did well even better and adding to it. Combat Leader was looking like it could have been the new SP but you dropped it!!

You are confusing engines with games. Even with BA the only thing stopping a game from being as hardcore as SP++++ is the designer. STUB and Archon are designed to put all the power in the hands of the designer. ST is going to lead on PC, no compromises.

Cheers

Pip

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ORIGINAL: Zorch

Tactical Wargame???
Please tell Gary to get back to work on War in the East 2 and War in Europe. They are much more important. [;)][;)][;)]

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ORIGINAL: wodin
Never to crowded..I personally haven't come across one that does what I want yet.
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No one has made a "monster" tactical wargame since Steel Panthers. So I can't wait.

I'm hoping for multi level buildings, tracking individual soldiers within a squad..so no squad, half squad etc. Good engineering features including variety of mines, fortified buildings etc.Do urban fighting well. Indepth command and control\comms. A good Tac Ai. Pref WEGO. Campaigns.

Do the things that people alwasy ask for but are never done.

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ORIGINAL: wodin

If they use the BA engine..Then I've lost interest already.

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ORIGINAL: Richie61

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ORIGINAL: wodin

If they use the BA engine..Then I've lost interest already.

Using the BA2 game engine was know about since the idea/ game became public. If you looked at some of the mods
in BA2 of converted ASL scenario, you would be shocked at what this engine can do [;)]

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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

There is an old song that had very wise words.

"Sometimes we don't get what we want, but, we get what we need" (or words to that effect :) ).

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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

Depth, detail and realism. The rallying cry normally for bloated unwieldy and excessive :)

ASL would never have made it on opening day as it exists today. The fame came from Squad Leader a game you could play after reading 7 pages of rules where the pages were mainly images and examples and not 3 column rules text :)

But we war gamers have a disease I think, something about always wanting more until we ruin a good game with "detail and realism" :)

Not that I should talk. You should see the cake I just baked. I think if I was to sell it, I'd need to warn of the overload level of calories and the excessive level if richness. I'd hesitate to serve it to a senior, and would fear just walking past a diabetic person.

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ORIGINAL: E

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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

There is an old song that had very wise words.

"Sometimes we don't get what we want, but, we get what we need" (or words to that effect :) ).

The gist is correct, but the lyrics are off kilter enough to grate on even a non-Rolling Stones fan (*grin*). Try...

"You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes well you just might find You get what you need."

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ORIGINAL: Zorch

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ORIGINAL: E

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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

There is an old song that had very wise words.

"Sometimes we don't get what we want, but, we get what we need" (or words to that effect :) ).

The gist is correct, but the lyrics are off kilter enough to grate on even a non-Rolling Stones fan (*grin*). Try...

"You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes well you just might find You get what you need."

They just gave a free concert in Cuba, in their never ending quest to be relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqMl5CRoFdk