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GI Jive -> What ship is this? (3/31/2016 4:02:29 PM)

Part puzzle, part search for information. I only know the nationality and the location.

Tom

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jwolf -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 4:11:16 PM)

I'd say the SS Minnow at Gilligan's Island. [:D]



GI Jive -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 4:14:18 PM)

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I'd say the SS Minnow at Gilligan's Island.

That would be the Central Pacific. This boat is in the SWPA.



Grfin Zeppelin -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 5:40:37 PM)

Shinano Class Carrier

Regards E.Fulmer,
Coastwatcher



witpqs -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 5:46:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Shinano Class Carrier

Regards E.Fulmer,
Coastwatcher

But what was it carrying? [:D]



btd64 -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 6:02:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Shinano Class Carrier

Regards E.Fulmer,
Coastwatcher

But what was it carrying? [:D]


A single 4 engine heavy torpedo bomber. It carries 40 torpedoes in its bombay and under its wings. To get it airborne you have to start it like a kite and the wind unfolds its wings.[sm=00000289.gif]....GP



GetAssista -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:01:28 PM)

Some small Japanese craft, those turrets look similar to typical tank turrets designs



Dili -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:08:20 PM)

Usually ships with tank like turrets are river boats.



crsutton -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:30:41 PM)

Yep, I am thinking a Vietnam war era river boat. But you did not provide much information. You could chose to share the nationality and location with us.



GI Jive -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:38:33 PM)

It is Japanese and it may have been a river boat. From the Australian War Memorial: "New Guinea. 22 January 1944. A Japanese picquet boat wrecked in the swirling water at the mouth of the Kapugara River, lies on its side. These boats fulfil a similar function to American PT boats, but are of smaller construction."

It doesn't look like anything represented in the game that I've seen or anything I've seen in references.



geofflambert -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:40:02 PM)

I was waiting for someone to start a "what is this?" thread. In this pic, is that crsutton on the right and is that his batmobile?


[image]local://upfiles/37002/84DAA84B0B474D1AA9C7290C02D219F5.jpg[/image]



Revthought -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:40:55 PM)

Answer: A sunk one.



AW1Steve -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:41:41 PM)

My 1st thought was Russian or German, but the statement that it's SWPA lets that out. The lines of the ship are modern (late 30's or early 40's) but the riveted turret and bridge/fighting structure suggest Russian/Japanese/Chinese. UNLESS both were a local modification with wartime expediency. Then it would suggest Australian or New Zealand modification of a non-combat ship. Maybe some kind of revenue cutter converted to patrol vessel?



geofflambert -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:44:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GI Jive

Part puzzle, part search for information. I only know the nationality and the location.

Tom

[image]local://upfiles/18626/64C4AE9A8CDA479B9EDA89D3E1032E98.jpg[/image]


That is how you clean the barnacles off the hull if you don't have a drydock. Probably the owner is on siesta.



GI Jive -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:45:47 PM)

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You could chose to share the nationality and location with us.


The info in the caption above is all I know. It is pretty sparse info. Japanese small craft don't seem to be well documented. It does resemble some of the French style Vietnam river boats - maybe this was the inspiration?



Revthought -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 7:56:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

My 1st thought was Russian or German, but the statement that it's SWPA lets that out. The lines of the ship are modern (late 30's or early 40's) but the riveted turret and bridge/fighting structure suggest Russian/Japanese/Chinese. UNLESS both were a local modification with wartime expediency. Then it would suggest Australian or New Zealand modification of a non-combat ship. Maybe some kind of revenue cutter converted to patrol vessel?


I am no expert, but I am pretty sure American PT Boats pretty universally were held together by woodscrews and metal was added via riveting... so while this does not look like a boat I'm familiar with, riveted metal on a small boat need not be an indicator that it was of Chinese of Russian construction.



AW1Steve -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 8:04:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Revthought


quote:

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

My 1st thought was Russian or German, but the statement that it's SWPA lets that out. The lines of the ship are modern (late 30's or early 40's) but the riveted turret and bridge/fighting structure suggest Russian/Japanese/Chinese. UNLESS both were a local modification with wartime expediency. Then it would suggest Australian or New Zealand modification of a non-combat ship. Maybe some kind of revenue cutter converted to patrol vessel?


I am no expert, but I am pretty sure American PT Boats pretty universally were held together by woodscrews and metal was added via riveting... so while this does not look like a boat I'm familiar with, riveted metal on a small boat need not be an indicator that it was of Chinese of Russian construction.



PT boats were made of plywood, so yes they were held together with glue and screws. Construction of wood boats and steel ships are really "apples and oranges".

In the USA and UK , welding was used because it was far more available, cheaper and lighter. After 1942 riveted tanks and warships were pretty rare. Now my reason for speculating the countries I did , was if it was "local expediency" then welding would be around , available and "good enough". Japan also welded , but the ship doesn't look particularly Japanese. But the often put captured ships into service.



geofflambert -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 8:38:10 PM)

Here's something of similar style labeled a "Japanese armored boat"

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type c abtei landing craft gunboat



geofflambert -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 8:43:23 PM)

I found your pic along with these two:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=214681



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geofflambert -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 8:43:52 PM)

and:


[image]local://upfiles/37002/A8A85B827B674145AC01A26C6FD815F0.jpg[/image]



geofflambert -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 8:48:23 PM)

Here's a quote from that site:

I asked a specialist and got a following answer.

The first boat is experimental model of AB-Tei. It had no turret on the bow. A few were built in 1938.

The second is the late version (probably the last version) of AB-Tei. It had a long bow. It was built in the last period of WWII.

Taki

Me again. "The second" refers to your image



geofflambert -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 8:55:53 PM)

Just bumped into this nice pic of a Black Widow P-61


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GI Jive -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 9:42:36 PM)

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late version (probably the last version) of AB-Tei


That is it. Better info than "picquet boat" from the original caption. I'd never heard of the AB-Tei before. Thanks for the links, too.



robinsa -> RE: What ship is this? (3/31/2016 9:53:12 PM)

Judging from the book titles he recommended it was an IJA boat. No wonder it sank. ;)



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