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Michael Hobuss -> Air Settings - Turn 1 (4/18/2016 10:57:48 PM)

I enjoyed War in the East a few years ago, remembering the satisfaction of taking both Moscow and Leningrad, and the frustration of dealing with the Russian winter.

I'd like to fire up a campaign again now that I discovered the big patch, but would appreciate counsel on where to set my air settings for max turn 1 effect. I presume airfields only and about 5% for that and 150% for everything else?

Thanks.



Michael Hobuss -> RE: Air Settings - Turn 1 (4/19/2016 2:16:06 PM)

The reason I ask is that the Germans originally estimated they destroyed a little over 3k Soviet planes when Barbarossa was launched (later research showed the number actually closer to 4k), and yet both manually or with AI the best I can achieve is about 2500, and usually less than 2k. So any guidance would be appreciated.

Thank you.



Dinglir -> RE: Air Settings - Turn 1 (4/19/2016 3:20:01 PM)

I am by no means an expert, and I don't know if the following solution has been "patched", but try this:

1) Recon every airfield you might want to attack
2) Start with your short range planes (ie Ju-87B). Bomb the airfields close to the border. Move the airfields up and down along the border between attacks, ensuring shorter mission ranges. The Stukas should remove every russian plane within their range.
3) Then do your He-111H-4's and Ju-88A's, while being selective about which airfields you hit.

If this is still possible, you should easily kill more than 4000 russian planes on turn one with "Required to fly" set to around 10%.



VigaBrand -> RE: Air Settings - Turn 1 (4/19/2016 3:52:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dinglir

I am by no means an expert, and I don't know if the following solution has been "patched", but try this:

1) Recon every airfield you might want to attack
2) Start with your short range planes (ie Ju-87B). Bomb the airfields close to the border. Move the airfields up and down along the border between attacks, ensuring shorter mission ranges. The Stukas should remove every russian plane within their range.
3) Then do your He-111H-4's and Ju-88A's, while being selective about which airfields you hit.

If this is still possible, you should easily kill more than 4000 russian planes on turn one with "Required to fly" set to around 10%.

If your Stukas (Ju-87B) are out of range you should have killed nearly 2.200 soviet planes.
Don't forget the Romanias. They could add another 1.000 planes in the South with the help of the german fighter and He-111 planes.



Michael Hobuss -> RE: Air Settings - Turn 1 (4/19/2016 3:53:47 PM)

Thanks kindly. I wasn't doing those 3 things the way you suggest...

1. Was AI'ing the recon, vs manually targeting specific ones. And even then I wasn't sure it was doing much.
2. Was totally ignoring the attacking aircraft type.
3. Was wasting quite a few sorties attacking rear fields of bombers and recons.

So thank you very much. Every point is helpful. Do you know if I need to reset the Required to Fly for all the other target types if I'm just going to use all aircraft for the airfields on the first turn?



Michael Hobuss -> RE: Air Settings - Turn 1 (4/19/2016 4:15:51 PM)

Thanks for the milestones to aim for, I'll try it out right now.



Hermann -> RE: Air Settings - Turn 1 (4/21/2016 6:22:34 AM)

I generally set my air units at 60% for bombers 40% for fighters and 20% minimum flight. No recon escort. I do my recon attacks. Then I set my level bombers only to night missions and launch them at the enemy in a surprise night attack I do this a couple times for max kills then switch everything to day missions and blast away



uw06670 -> RE: Air Settings - Turn 1 (4/21/2016 5:12:44 PM)

i actually like to kill all the recon planes. I played a soviet game recently and was shocked at how poor their ground recon is, at least early. and their low number of recon planes makes it tough. so I kill all of those to blind the soviet opponent best I can.

I did that after killing the other stuff. total of around 4,400 planes I think I killed. I didn't do anything extreme, but tac bombers do better and I always include lots of fighters too.



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