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colberki -> House Rules - Newbie Question (6/28/2016 2:04:00 PM)

Does it make sense when playing the Bitter End GC to enforce the "standard" house rule for Axis automatic victory in 1941 if the Axis capture Leningrad, Moscow, Voronezh and Rostov?

What if the Soviets are able to recapture any of these locations in December 1941? is the Axis automatic victory "invalidated"?



RKhan -> RE: House Rules - Newbie Question (6/28/2016 4:18:27 PM)

It is a personal choice for the players of course.

But the house rule is based on a lot of previous experience and I think it is reasonable to call the game for the Axis. Your opponent won't be having much fun anymore and the outcome is highly probable.



Lobster -> RE: House Rules - Newbie Question (6/28/2016 4:33:12 PM)

If the Soviets recaptured any cities held by the Axis wouldn't that be a successful offensive? That alone would be enough to continue the struggle in real life terms. In game terms I guess you have to throw the pro Axis players a bone or they will continue to loudly whine about how the game it tilted towards the Soviet side.




colberki -> RE: House Rules - Newbie Question (6/29/2016 8:07:35 PM)

Thank you for both your responses. IMHO the game continues if any of the 1941 Axis auto victory cities are recaptured in December.



chaos45 -> RE: House Rules - Newbie Question (6/29/2016 8:44:07 PM)

the main problem is if the soviets lose all those cities in 1941--you most likely lost alot of factories/production which will make you weaker in 1942.

Not to mention you lose all that manpower in 1941 and into 1942....the 2 years when you get the most men per point of manpower recruitment.

Dont be deceived and think soviet manpower is infinite because its not. Again good axis play Soviet manpower can very well be stressed clear into 1943. After that it becomes more about the soviet player managing truck use than manpower/equipment production.



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