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rwprice -> Is this a game for beginners? (5/10/2001 8:27:00 PM)
I've been checking out this game and I'm wondering if this is a good candidate to be my first wargame. It all seems a bit overwhelming, especially since I don't really have much knowledge of the weapons or tactics used in WWII. Do you think I'll be able to get up to speed and enjoy myself with this game, or is this more for the "wargaming vets"? Thanks for your input.

David Heath -> (5/10/2001 8:39:00 PM)
I would say with all the docs you getand the great tutorial scenarios it should be easy to learn. There is a lot to learn and understand so reading the manual and playing the tutorials is a must. Also make sure to play with Command Control Off (Which is the default).

slehtine -> (5/10/2001 9:09:00 PM)
My (almost) first wargame was SPI. Back then I didn't read any manuals etc, " 'cause they're for sissies" ;). I am sure that you will learn basics of SPWaW very quickly. (User interface is very intuitive, for example). That level is good fun, but it's not war yet. There's lot to learn and you might get seriously hooked. BTW most of the scenarios are made by SP veterans to SP veterans. So don't give up too soon. -Sasa

Hauptmann6 -> (5/10/2001 9:25:00 PM)
Actualy it is one of the easiest games to learn. Trust me on this! It is as hard as you want it to be. Wild Bill's scenarios are not for the faint of heart, but playing against the AI is a good way to learn the system. Haupt

kutalik -> (5/10/2001 9:36:00 PM)
The learning curve for SPWAW is a little strange though you have to admit. Easy to learn the basics. Once you get firing, moving and loading vehicles (this one got me I have to admit) down minue command and control you are quickly on your way to "intermediate" level. Getting beyond that is a much longer process IMO. Lots of little nuances make up for a long and subtle learning process. I have been playing SPWAW for about a year now and played SP 1 for about the same and I am still learning with each game. My advice would be learn the very basics as I mentioned. Play a little (something easy and light like the random generate battles or campaigns) then play through the excellent new tutorials... then play and play a lot more. One "express" route way to learn is playing in the leagues. Heck I learned more in getting whooped in a couple email games than I did in 6 months...

Larry Holt -> (5/10/2001 10:05:00 PM)
May I also suggest that your read my tactics tutorial at Tankheadcentral.com? The game is not a problem for beginners, just keep C&C off and choose battles with only a few units, perhaps several platoons. Oh and stay away from anything designed by Wild Bill that says "hard" on it. :) Really they are expertly designed but to be challenging not for learning.

Colonel von Blitz -> (5/10/2001 10:23:00 PM)
I'd say SPWAW is easy to learn but hard to master... Colonel von Blitz

Figmo -> (5/10/2001 10:44:00 PM)
The easiest way to learn is to set a scenario to Computer VS Computer - if the scenario was set up correctly - you will be able to watch the movement and firing of both sides. Then pick a side and try it yourself. To make sure this works properly - set the "OpFire" control to "Zero". You may also want to increase the time delay of the screen displays - geez - I can't remember which ones they are - I'm at work and don't have the game. Maybe the other guys will be able to tell you just which ones those are. All of these option are in the "preferences" screen. Good Shooting!! :eek: Figmo

bchapman -> (5/10/2001 10:55:00 PM)
Spwaw is an easy game to learn and as on of the guys already stated, you can make it as easy or as hard as you like. You don't have to be an expert on military history, but the more you play the more you will become interested in learning about the different units, battles, etc. When you get comfortable with the game, start playing some PBEM games, that is when you will really start to learn the more interesting(exciting, frustrating, adictive) aspects of SPWAW. Please try it, you won't be sorry. Cheers,

skukko -> (5/11/2001 2:24:00 AM)
just as guys says in here, agree I with them. Afterall they have learned it as I also :D Nobody is born to spwaw, except WB, so practise is the key and to better gameexperience (after a year or so,- joke)you'll have to do pbems and get your butt kicked as all have done at the beginning...but what a joy it is to see that you did get your friend in trap :D mosh

Don -> (5/11/2001 2:58:00 AM)
It is an excellent game for beginners! We get new players all the time, and if you read the manual, read Larry's guide and play the tutorials you will be fine. In fact, you sound alot like me a year ago, but you will do much less bumbling around trying to figure things out (than I did) with all the resources that are now available.

victorhauser -> (5/11/2001 3:50:00 AM)
One easy way to learn is to play battles that favor your side. "The Raiders Ride to Work" is a good scenario to learn with. The Germans provide just enough of a challenge to keep you on your toes, but you playing as the Americans should win that battle easily. It's hard for me to remember what it was like when I learned to play Steel Panthers, but I learned a lot in the first 50 games I played. I started to develop a tactical doctrine by the time I'd played 100 games. By the time I'd played 1000 games I had a pretty good idea of how combined arms could be best applied to my tactical doctrine. After more than 2000 games, I still find myself learning something new every time I play and I'm still refining my tactical doctrine. Welcome to Steel Panthers and happy gaming!

Panzer Capta -> (5/11/2001 4:34:00 AM)
There is simply no better place to begin!!

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 -> (5/11/2001 4:43:00 AM)
Heheheehehh is Steel Panthers easy..... hmmm well actually its easy to learn to play chess too, but chance do you have against someone that has played like forever right? I measure virtually all wargames against my old cardboard favourite Advanced Squad Leader. Once you have played that game, anything looks easy. The only people that have trouble with Steel Panthers, are the hard working guys that ensure the design is accurate.

Wild Bill -> (5/11/2001 6:42:00 AM)
Bob, you won't really know till you give it a try. I think however, if you start with the first tutorial and learn the basics of fire and move, then move on through the tutorials, by the time you finish them you'll have a good feel for the game. It is easier than many other wargames out there, I promise you, but just take it a slow step at a time and you will do well. Wild Bill

MwR -> (5/11/2001 11:36:00 AM)
It's true, try the tutorial first, and read the manual at the same time (if you got the paper and ink to print out 200+ pages, good; otherwise, flip back and forth on applications, though I must admit it is troublesome). The manual would tell you what basically you need to know, but the rest is up to you. For myself, I find switch the C&C is much easier to control. If you know military history, you can even design your own scenario. Personally, I'd try to read up on the materials on the Long March. That should give me some ideas.

rwprice -> (5/11/2001 12:00:00 PM)
Wow! Thanks, everyone, for your feedback. I'm going to go ahead and try to learn this very impressive-looking game. I'm new strategy games of any kind, so the whole world's my candy store right now. I'll let SPWaw be my intro to wargaming. Who knows? Maybe I'll be bitten by the "bug" just like you guys. I hope so! Thanks again.

Resisti -> (5/11/2001 2:46:00 PM)
Hey Bob, when you think you have learned enough abt this game, dont forget to experiment the "shock therapy". What am I talking abt ? Ask AmmoSgt to play a PBEM game with you,you'll soon learn the difference between AI and human playing :rolleyes:

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