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CAHouston -> reducing entrencement (10/20/2016 2:18:00 PM)

if a ship bombards a land unit can it reduce entrenchment? the same for artillery?



BillRunacre -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/20/2016 3:55:30 PM)

Artillery can, but ships will just demoralize the land unit with a small chance of inflicting a casualty point.



CAHouston -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/20/2016 4:23:23 PM)

that is not right about ships. look at the damage USN ships did in the Pacific and various invasions in Europe.



BillRunacre -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/20/2016 4:45:48 PM)

They certainly did, but the effect on the defenders was never as much as was hoped, so our aim has been to make shore bombardments of some use against the defenders, but not too much.



ILCK -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/23/2016 2:29:20 AM)

I have been watching the ParaDogs videos and the bombardment of Malta in particular looks like a total mystery. The bombardment looks to be doing...something but it almost looks like there is another unit stacked under the AA in Malta taking the damage. I also wonder that because an attempted amphib assault was repelled and the idea that an AA unit could do that seems unlikely.




BillRunacre -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/23/2016 10:21:39 AM)

The bombardment in this instance is damaging the town of ValLetta, potentially reducing the supply the AA unit in Malta is receiving.

Positioning an Axis naval unit adjacent to Malta's ports will also prevent the AA unit from receiving supply from the ports, and combined they will make a joint air and amphibious assault on Malta more likely to succeed, as a unit in reduced supply not only fights less effectively but it will be unable to reinforce as much.



ILCK -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/23/2016 7:16:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Bill Runacre

The bombardment in this instance is damaging the town of ValLetta, potentially reducing the supply the AA unit in Malta is receiving.

Positioning an Axis naval unit adjacent to Malta's ports will also prevent the AA unit from receiving supply from the ports, and combined they will make a joint air and amphibious assault on Malta more likely to succeed, as a unit in reduced supply not only fights less effectively but it will be unable to reinforce as much.



To return to an issue in another thread -- Malta will always be able to supply/reinforce itself to an extent even if completely blockaded because it is a city?



James Taylor -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/23/2016 7:56:43 PM)

All resource areas gain(unless surrounded)one step of supply per turn cycle as they recover from damage.

If you keep Malta cutoff it will not regain supply(not be able to reinforce), but your blockaders may suffer from counter bombardment and enemy units moving into the harbor and attacking your ships. You'll have to completely isolate the entire area, a very difficult accomplishment.

Strategic attack will degrade Malta's supply, but without the blockade, the supply will regenerate and reinforcement will be possible.



Christolos -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/23/2016 8:56:51 PM)

How exactly does Malta get supplied? Is it only by being a resource center that generates supply if it is not cut-off by Naval blockade, or does the amount of supplies it generates also depends on abstracted convoys that can also be interdicted/reduced by subs and naval raiders?

in others words, if the port of Malta can not be effectively blockaded by naval units only, can it receive less supplies if convoys that would be feeding it are pounced upon by Axis air and naval units?

C



James Taylor -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/23/2016 9:23:49 PM)

In game terms, Malta has an inherant ability to supply itself, as in real life(with those abstract convoys, blockade runners, both air and water, you refer to).

The blockade will reduce it to zero, but it must be sustained / enhanced with strategic attack(bombers and rockets). Then the garrison can be eliminated with "ground attack" bombers, followed by amphibious or airborne attack, resulting in occupation.

It requires a commitment of forces not usually planned for as an Axis player.

I suggest the "Siege of Malta" as an historical answer to your questions and you'll see the gameplay mirrors what happened IRL.



BillRunacre -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/23/2016 9:28:35 PM)

A unit in Malta will receive supply from two sources:

- The resource itself (Valletta).
- The ports - providing an enemy naval unit isn't adjacent to them.

Strategic Bombers and naval bombardments can reduce the strength of Valletta, and if coupled with preventing the port from providing supply will render the defending unit much more susceptible to attack from Tactical and Medium Bombers, followed swiftly by an amphibious landing.



Christolos -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/24/2016 4:07:03 PM)

Thanks Bill, but maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way since I find myself still wondering if attacking the convoys (with subs, naval raiders, and air units) that feed the Port, would reduce the amount of supply that the port receives if not blockaded.

You mention the port provides supply so I would assume it does so by receiving convoy bound supplies that could be intercepted. Is this so?

Thanks again,

C



BillRunacre -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/24/2016 4:57:39 PM)

Hi

The convoy that flows from Egypt to the UK via the Med is simply transferring MPPs from Egypt to the UK, so while raiding it is useful to harm the UK's income, it doesn't have any effect on supply at Malta.

Hopefully this makes more sense now?

Bill



Christolos -> RE: reducing entrencement (10/24/2016 6:03:41 PM)

Yes and thank you very much.

C



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