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BlueAndGray -> NKVD Border Regiments not disbanding? (12/19/2016 7:36:51 AM)

Section 18.5.1 talks about all of the NKVD Border Regiments disbanding at a rate that I would think they would all be gone by the end of September 1941. I'm in October of 1941 and I still have 25 of the original 36(?) NKVD Border Regiments and there have been 0 NKVD disbands in the last 4 turns (from checking the Destroyed Units section of the Losses window). I believe 4 of them might be frozen, but that leaves 21 that should have disbanded by now.

So does anybody know if they will ever disband? If not I would need to spend the admin points to get them out of my frontline commands so I can fit in combat units without going over the command cap. I suppose I have enough admin points that I can afford it, but I'd prefer not to pay for the privilege of having my units disbanded if the rules say they should be disbanded for free.

Section from the manual (I'm on v1.08.08):
v1.05.18 - September 6, 2011
NKVD Border Regiments check for disbanding each friendly logistics phase starting in July 1941. The chance the unit will be disbanded is as follows:
 July 1941 - 100% - %TOE of the unit
 August 1941 - 80%
 September 1941 and later - 95%



Stelteck -> RE: NKVD Border Regiments not disbanding? (12/19/2016 7:41:59 AM)

Get them to battle and they will disband sooner. Never refit them.



morvael -> RE: NKVD Border Regiments not disbanding? (12/19/2016 7:50:55 AM)

See 1.08.00 new feature #138



56ajax -> RE: NKVD Border Regiments not disbanding? (12/19/2016 8:02:32 AM)

In my game it is the last week in August 41 and I have 7 left, 4 of which are in the Caucasus. Like already has been said, get them to the front.



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: NKVD Border Regiments not disbanding? (12/19/2016 7:28:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: johntoml56

In my game it is the last week in August 41 and I have 7 left, 4 of which are in the Caucasus. Like already has been said, get them to the front.


Hehehehe, see how long it takes you to move the NKVD regiments with ZERO movement points to the front in the Caucasus :)



BlueAndGray -> RE: NKVD Border Regiments not disbanding? (12/19/2016 8:44:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: morvael

See 1.08.00 new feature #138


Ouch - it looks like I've found the patch note you mentioned detailing the change which just never made it into the manual. I'd been using them half and half as reserves (many of which have 3-5 engagements) and the other half as what I'd imagined security troops to be so in the rear and holding cities and fortifications that I didn't want to decay. I'll spend the admin points on the high strength ones and let STAVKA deal with those and move the lower strength ones to the front lines where I can fit them in.

Thanks guys!

(including the patch note in case anybody had missed it)

138.Reduced chances to disband NKVD Border Regiments to 25%, and only if
they are below 50% TOE. They still don't get replacements, so this will eventually
happen. They can also be disbanded when routed with 20% chance. This was made
to allow limited use for these units in some scenarios, like “Moscow 41-42”, in which
their contribution may be important during the first two turns. Actually, some of these
units fought until 1945.



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