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TheCabal -> Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/11/2017 7:18:43 PM)

Hello guys,

I'm doing the Scenario Tanker Wars 2017 at this moment and came pretty far (for a newbie). But, I stumbled
on a unresolvable problem and read in various AAR, that the guys had 8 JSM Missiles for their disposal.

That's excactly what I could need right now but I can't find them anywhere (incl. Database). I tried to restart the scenario to check my weapons again... no JSM or alike.

(can't post a link to the AAR. It's called Trench Run by totallynotabrony)

The next question:
Do the ships automatically deploy decoys? I saw the chaff in use, but how about the fancy Nulka rocket?

Thanks for clarification in advance!! (After the tutorials, this scenario is my second scenario, the first being Stand Up and I'm fascinated by CMANO!

Greetings,
Cabal



TheCabal -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/12/2017 10:10:33 AM)

Anyone perhaps? :(



poaw -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/12/2017 11:49:22 AM)

That may be a part of some inaccurately researched scenario design that unfortunately slipped passed quality control. The LCS in question should be equipped with Naval Strike Missiles (NSM), which is item #299 in the database. The JSM (Joint Strike Missile) is an air-launched derivative of the NSM and they should be on-board your ships unless you fired them already, in any case they're in the database under "Joint Strike Missile (JSM) -- Norway, 2018+", item #2885.




TheCabal -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/13/2017 10:02:19 AM)

Hmm ok.. will need to find out the creator of this scenario and report the missing NSM's inside it.



poaw -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/13/2017 1:13:57 PM)

I am the scenario creator.

Both of my versions (development and from the community pack) have the JSMs.



TheCabal -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/13/2017 9:00:48 PM)

Hmm something is not right here on my comp then... I don't see these missiles on any on the LCS. Running the updated version of CMANO in Steam and downloaded the actual Community pack. What is the issue here? Maybe I fail to see the issue here.



Demetrious -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/13/2017 9:49:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheCabal

Hmm something is not right here on my comp then... I don't see these missiles on any on the LCS. Running the updated version of CMANO in Steam and downloaded the actual Community pack. What is the issue here? Maybe I fail to see the issue here.


Interesting. I was going to suggest trying to update the database using the provided .ini file, but doing this with the version of the scenario available through the Steam Workshop (which should auto-update) left me with vanilla LCS's armed with the Hellfires. I loaded up the scenario from the Community Pack folder I downloaded ages ago (i.e. old,) and the JSMs are there as expected.

Might be a Steam thing...?



michaelm75au -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/14/2017 9:53:47 AM)

The Steam Workshop scenarios don't usually have a INI. So upgrading to current database would go vanilla.



TheCabal -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/14/2017 10:03:29 AM)

Don't I get the current Database only through official updates?



poaw -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/14/2017 10:23:20 AM)

Thank you for looking into that. If that's the issue I can provide a copy of the scenario to any party that can fix the problem, but I can't do anything about it myself myself.

As far as the Nulka:

I'm not sure but I don't believe so due to the way Command handles softkill defenses/decoys:
Basically for each seeker type only one type of decoy will be used, in order of how effective they are. In the case of the LCSs in the scenario they have Sea Gnats (20% chance of success) and Nulkas (15% chance of success) so the Nulkas will only be used if the ship can't use Sea Gnats (out of decoys, mount out of position, inoperative, etc).



Demetrious -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/14/2017 4:43:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm
The Steam Workshop scenarios don't usually have a INI. So upgrading to current database would go vanilla.


Oh dear, that'd do it. In that case re-downloading the latest version of the Community Scenario Pack would be the go-to.



TheCabal -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/14/2017 7:37:59 PM)

Even after downloading them, I got the same issue. I'm afraid I'm missing something here. I will delete, re-download and retry them.

Though I do not understand what might the case with the INI... can someone explain this to me and how it should go vanilla? [&:]



poaw -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/14/2017 11:56:21 PM)

The INI that comes with some scenarios contains a record of the changes the scenario designer made to the platforms in the scenario. In this case, adding JSMs to the LCS.

Although I am unsure if that is the problem because I don't believe the Nulkas or Hellfire missiles would have been present either if that was the case.



TheCabal -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/15/2017 6:19:55 PM)

Thanks for clarifying! I will give you feedback in a sec. if something has changed after re"installing" the scenarios from the actual community pack. I'm so eager to continue [:)]

EDIT: Ok I reinstalled CMANO, got the actual community pack 34 and can confirm that no NSM are available from the LCS group.



poaw -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/17/2017 3:22:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheCabal

Thanks for clarifying! I will give you feedback in a sec. if something has changed after re"installing" the scenarios from the actual community pack. I'm so eager to continue [:)]

EDIT: Ok I reinstalled CMANO, got the actual community pack 34 and can confirm that no NSM are available from the LCS group.


Do you have JSMs?



TheCabal -> RE: Scenario: Tanker Wars 2017 - JSM missiles? Nulka decoy? Help needed (2/17/2017 10:32:07 AM)

No JSM either. Just the same stuff. The missile is missing and I got Hellfires. (like Demetrious stated above)

CommunityPack34 (newest) & CommunityPack32 (Steam Workshop) bring's no joy.

The Tanker Wars 2017 INI (from the newest community pack) show the addition of these missiles into a mount:
###############
<!--LCS 6 Jackson (LCS 2 Independence [1840])-->
<Mount_6_2279>
<!--LCS Mission Module-->
<WeaponRecAdd_7100 />
<!--Joint Strike Missile (JSM)-->
<WeaponRecAdd_7098 />
<!--Joint Strike Missile (JSM)-->
</Mount_6_2279>
<Mount_7_2279>
<!--LCS Mission Module-->
<WeaponRecAdd_7100 />
<!--Joint Strike Missile (JSM)-->
<WeaponRecAdd_7098 />
<!--Joint Strike Missile (JSM)-->
</Mount_7_2279>
###############



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