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mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/24/2019 12:23:01 PM)
June 8th & June 9th, 1942 At last, some action! North Pacific Shikuka hits level 7 port. I've been tardy in shipping resources out of here, and now there's just under a million stockpiled. I've formed two big TF's to start shipping that over to Honshu. Central Pacific The big show. On the 8th, a Betty squadron from Rabual finds and sorties against the CL Helena, which is concerningly reported one hex from a transport TF and one hex from some oilers (!). The American warship had managed to insert itself in the chink in naval search between Ndeni and Ocean Island. The oilers are instructed to run for Kusaie Island, and their escort, the DD Akebono, is ordered on a suicide mission to intercept and stop the American ship. By serendipidy, the 3 Myoko CA and 2 Aoba CA and 7 DD's that I had detached for bombardment operations against Suva are a days sail away, they're ordered to go into high speed to intercept and sink the Allied CL. Events the following day transpire that this was not the complete picture of Allied commitment to this area. The PB escorts are detached from the xAK convoy (6 Husimi freighters) and serve as sacraficial shields for the xAK's. All three are sunk, but not before confirming that there's the CL Phoenix, Helena, as well as the Concord and a DD. The Helena and Phoenix are operating as lone ships, and the Concord and the DD together. After the PB's are swept aside, the Concord and it's DD get in amongst the xAK's, sinking one before they escape. Then Helena appears and mauls the convoy again. Over a series of engagements only one xAK escapes. The IJN CA force appears at the end of the night phase, but the Concord and escort slip away using radar. Things look like the Allies are running away with it. Daylight, and the IJN are still searching for the raiders. Commanding the IJN CA Force is CPT Mori of the Haguro, a 70 Nav sea-salt. He earns a promotion or a medal after today. First found is the Concord and escort: quote: Day Time Surface Combat, near Ontong Java at 118,123, Range 11,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Myoko, Shell hits 2 CA Haguro, Shell hits 1 CA Nachi CA Aoba CA Kinugasa DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki DD Ikazuchi DD Inazuma DD Sagiri DD Oboro Allied Ships CL Concord, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Henley, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk Then he sweeps down on the Helena and hammers it with the full weight of six heavy crusiers: quote: Day Time Surface Combat, near Ontong Java at 118,123, Range 15,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Myoko CA Haguro CA Nachi, Shell hits 1 CA Aoba CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 3 DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki DD Ikazuchi DD Inazuma DD Sagiri DD Oboro Allied Ships CL Helena, Shell hits 34, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Next is a scrappy engagement with the Phoenix - IJN ships have used up their ammo and torps fighting the fast USN warships: quote: Day Time Surface Combat, near Ontong Java at 118,123, Range 20,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Myoko, Shell hits 1 CA Haguro, Shell hits 2, on fire CA Nachi, Shell hits 2 CA Aoba, Shell hits 2 CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 3 DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki DD Ikazuchi DD Inazuma DD Sagiri DD Oboro Allied Ships CL Phoenix, Shell hits 5, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Kusaie Island at 119,123, Range 20,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Myoko CA Haguro, heavy fires CA Nachi CA Aoba CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 1 DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Ikazuchi DD Inazuma DD Sagiri, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Oboro, Shell hits 2, on fire Allied Ships CL Phoenix, Shell hits 5, heavy fires -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Kusaie Island at 120,124, Range 19,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Myoko CA Haguro, heavy fires CA Nachi CA Aoba CA Kinugasa DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki, on fire DD Ikazuchi DD Inazuma DD Sagiri, on fire DD Oboro, heavy fires, heavy damage The Oboro sinks later in the turn to progressive flooding. Allied Ships CL Phoenix, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage And then, Mori calls it quits and turns his ships away towards Rabual. He's done good work, three USN ships are sunk. Ammo is depelete, his own Haguro is a mess. Superstructure on the ship is in ruins. The Y turret on the Nachi has been disabled and the TF is short on ammo and torps. The Phoenix may yet live up to it's name and limp away to fight another day... ...until LCRD Nakagawa in the Akebono bursts on to the scene. Despite missing all the nights action (and the Allied ships completely), he's in the right place at the right time - bearing down on a damaged USN CL: quote: Day Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 120,125, Range 20,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Akebono Allied Ships CL Phoenix, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk So ends this little scrappy affair. I'm moving an AV to Ocean Island to plug the chink in Nav Search, and running all convoys through Rabual in future. The CA force is shot, they'll all need downtime in port, but there's not much major damage so hopefully it can be fixed at Rabual. The ships are heading to Rabual for emergency repairs then Truk for major repairs. To replace them, I'm moving the two Takao CA and CA Maya from the Home Islands to SWPAC to resume bombardment duties. They'll be joined by the two Aoba-class CA's once they get the dents fixed on their armour. South-West Pacific The sweeps go in at Tongatapu on the 8th, to mixed results: quote: Morning Air attack on Tongatapu , at 138,168 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 19 P-40E Warhawk x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Tongatapu , at 138,168 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 9 P-40E Warhawk x 7 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed However, sweeps on the 9th meet no opposition. I'll take that as a win. The battle-worn groups are rotated out and I'll sweep one day more to make a point. At sea, IJN submarine captains are learning all about how a stern-chase is a long chase. They're hearding the Long Island towards the KB while trying themselves to stalk the slow (16 knots) CVE themselves. Meanwhile the KB is undetected, and in a position to cut the USN ship off within one turn (if the CVE force heads west) or two turns (if it continues south-west). [img]https://i.imgur.com/1fJTTIz.png[/img] Bombings of Suva continue. Luzon At last things are starting to wind down on Luzon: quote: Ground combat at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 48500 troops, 515 guns, 392 vehicles, Assault Value = 1370 Defending force 32298 troops, 456 guns, 507 vehicles, Assault Value = 428 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2 Japanese adjusted assault: 767 Allied adjusted defense: 491 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1141 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 114 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Allied ground losses: 1060 casualties reported Squads: 96 destroyed, 33 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 22 (12 destroyed, 10 disabled) Vehicles lost 60 (1 destroyed, 59 disabled) DEI IJA units are set to take Daly Waters next turn. The 4 Mogami CA's and 10 Shiratsuyu DD's are sent off to start hammering Rangoon. Otherwise, quiet. Burma Bombings continue. The slugfest at Rangoon has been great for my divisions. 75 EXP or above across the board. I've moved a couple of RTA A/B/C fragments into Burma to help with hexside control and managing the Chinese. I'm not hugely concerned about the situation, but a full-strength (or even half-strength) Chinese corps appearing out of nowhere can ruin any day. China Neikiang (2 hex west of Chungking) falls to a IJA tank force. The tanks are barrelling on to Chengtu to help seize that base. The Light Industry is only partially damaged, which is nice. Shipping is en-route to collect the 40th Division, which is resting at Hong Kong after being mauled in earlier fighting. It is intended for Sakhilin. I'm torn as to where to send it, as operations in North Oz are developing nicely. Will wait and see. A good couple turns, lets see what the next few bring!

Bif1961 -> RE: Christmas Update (5/24/2019 1:35:48 PM)
I would have liked and seen a few DDs with each of his CLs, they have great range and can refuel the DDs as needed and the US does have some long range DDs in the 8,000 and 7,500 fuel range to accompany them. It would help keep the enemy DDs busy as they 15 x 6 inch guns deal with bigger game. I know that DDs are in short supply but it would make them a far more potent raiding force.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/24/2019 1:44:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bif1961 I would have liked and seen a few DDs with each of his CLs, they have great range and can refuel the DDs as needed and the US does have some long range DDs in the 8,000 and 7,500 fuel range to accompany them. It would help keep the enemy DDs busy as they 15 x 6 inch guns deal with bigger game. I know that DDs are in short supply but it would make them a far more potent raiding force. The Henley is a Bagley-class with 8K endurance. Nothing on the 14.5k endurance of the Helena and Phoenix, but not to be overlooked. I'm certain Loka's intentions was to raid merchant convoys running Truk/Rabual, so in that case his ship usage makes sense to me. The issue with sending more DD's is that it increases your chances to get spotted. I lucked out because Betty search from Rabual spotted the Helena. It was good fortune that they picked the right time when a IJA CA brawler group was in the neighbourhood. If Loka had intel on that I doubt he'd have skimped so much on the escorts.

Bif1961 -> RE: Christmas Update (5/24/2019 3:07:13 PM)
Don't disagree because the Brooklyn class of CLs are power units with long range but would benefit from long rang DDs to help fend off Japanese DDs as the Brooklyn class CL deals with anything else with its main battery. This conversation was from a previous AAR but was centered around late war American raiding forces when someone sent out a group of Fletchers but they were running short of fuel and what would be an ideal combatant to send with them. The Brooklyn class CL comes to mind because of it's longer range and heavy battery and also provides scout planes. It could refuel the Fltechers and thereby extend their ability range further and have a Brooklyn CL as it's mother ship and spotting platform. Fortune's of war that you CA bombardment TF was near enough to respond to his raidng TFs.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/24/2019 5:24:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bif1961 Don't disagree because the Brooklyn class of CLs are power units with long range but would benefit from long rang DDs to help fend off Japanese DDs as the Brooklyn class CL deals with anything else with its main battery. This conversation was from a previous AAR but was centered around late war American raiding forces when someone sent out a group of Fletchers but they were running short of fuel and what would be an ideal combatant to send with them. The Brooklyn class CL comes to mind because of it's longer range and heavy battery and also provides scout planes. It could refuel the Fltechers and thereby extend their ability range further and have a Brooklyn CL as it's mother ship and spotting platform. Fortune's of war that you CA bombardment TF was near enough to respond to his raidng TFs. In two to three months its going to be very difficult for him to effectively raid. North Pacific is pretty locked down, CentPac is spotty but there won't be much out there. SWPAC is pretty iron-tight from Rabual to Luganville. DEI is big but I've search covering almost the entire way from Oz to Sumatra. Once I get enough Jakes in the pool, it's just going to get worse for the Allies. FWIW I'd love him to continue to attempt to raid. I think it's a great way to throw away good warships.

Lowpe -> RE: Christmas Update (5/25/2019 11:50:34 AM)
That raid was very nearly a great success. I suspect he will continue to hone his raiding skills and attempt more of them in the future.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 12:14:03 PM)
June 10th & June 11th, 1942 North Pacific Started to ship out the Ind. Inf Battalions to garrison the Kuriles, and I'll get more up here as time progresses. Central Pacific An AV moves to Nauru Island to plug the search gap here. The damaged Japanese ships from the Ontong Java clash are heading steadily towards Rabual. The Combined Fleet Naval HQ is unloading at Rabual to boost repair efforts. I've also moved a Base Force off Babeldoab and sent it to NW Oz, specifically Wyndham Bay. If I want to land more troops in future, having the naval support would be a nice boost. South-West Pacific Despite having good intel on the progression of the suspected Allied CVE for about four or five turns, it disapears completely from IJ search on the 10th. I spent a lot of time staring at the screen, concerned that the KB was getting sent on a merry chase. However, Occam's Razor said that the piss-poor weather east of New Zealand prevented any of the submarine floatplanes from flying. The KB stuck to it's original course to position itself between the Allied TF and New Zealand. I was a bit apprehensive about these two turns, as it would be a lot of fuel to waste for no gain. I couldn't even bomb NZ industry for VP's either. However, I stuck with the plan. The weather on the 12th is as miserable as it was on the 11th, but eagle-eyed search pilots from the KB spotted ships to their south-west early in the day. The IJN carrier fleet sends over 250 aircraft into the air, and I find out that by trying to catch a minnow, I've found salmon... quote: Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 124,194 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 53 B5N2 Kate x 101 D3A1 Val x 109 Allied aircraft Fulmar II x 20 Sea Hurricane Ib x 18 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 19 damaged D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses Fulmar II: 4 destroyed Sea Hurricane Ib: 6 destroyed Allied Ships CVL Hermes, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CV Indomitable, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk CA Cornwall, Bomb hits 6, on fire DD Norman, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Chester, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Salt Lake City, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires DD Benham DD Maury, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Nestor DD Gridley The thunderstorms throws off the aim of the IJN pilots, but it was a forlorn conclusion from the start. The Indomitable took a volly of torpedo hits right at the start of the battle, while the Hermes had it's flight deck shredded by 250kg bombs. With the two British carriers clearly knocked out, the KB's pilots spent the rest of the morning trying to sink the escorting ships despite the severe weather. Forced off by a lack of fuel, the Japanese planes came back later that afternoon, but nimble Allied destroyers and still abysmal weather stopped it from being a complete washout. quote: Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 124,194 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 42 B5N2 Kate x 104 D3A1 Val x 96 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged D3A1 Val: 10 damaged Allied aircraft losses Walrus II: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CA Salt Lake City, on fire, heavy damage CA Cornwall, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Gridley, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires DD Norman, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Chester, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage There was no Allied counterstrike. The air numbers are interesting. Total for the day is 21 Japanese versus 79 Allied. The Allies lost: - 41 Wildcats (ground) - 27 Sea Hurricanes (22 A2A, 2 ground, 3 ops) - 25 Fulmar II (13 A2A, 3 ground, 9 ops) - 4 Seagulls (ground) - 2 Walrus (ground) The KB lost: - 10 Zeros (9 A2A, 1 ops) - 5 Val (1 A2A, 3 flak, 1 ops) - 3 Kate (1 A2A, 1 flak, 1 ops The 41 Wildcats lost, despite us not seeing them at all during the battle makes me think that Loka was using one of those ships to transport crated aircraft. It could have been another ship elsewhere that has ran foul of something, but if so it isn't my doing. All in all, a nice result. In other positive news in SWPAC, we manage to win the air battle over Tongatapu. Allied fighters have withdrawn from the base in the face of increasing Japanese sweeps. The KB will not chase the crippled Allied ships. The remaining heavy cruisers are mortally wounded and the DD's are not worth chasing. The KB will return to Luganville to cloak back up again. Meanwhile, the floatplane submarines that did such a good job of tracking the Allied fleet for days are repositioning. They'll provide a screen running from Fiji to the southern map edge and keep the possibility of further interceptions like this open. DEI Daly Waters falls, troops now moving on Katherine. Burma Not much new here. I'll soon have a force of 4 divisions deployed at Pegu, which I intend to use to cut Rangoon off from the rest of Burma. The current plan is to cut north-west from Pegu, take Prome, then backtrack to Bassein. Pocketing and destroying 58k of mixed Chinese and British units would be a nice addition to the VP pool... China The tanks are one turn out from Chengtu, and the base should hopefully fall in a turn or two. Additional aviation support has made its way to Kienko, so bombing efforts up here are stepping up even more here. VP Situation After that carrier clash, things are looking good for Japan. Current total is IJ vs Allied: 20794 vs 8567 Considering that this is before the fall of Chungking or Burma, I'm in with a chance of getting a 3:1 ratio for 1943. Keeping that ratio till 1944 is a whole other matter, however.

Lowpe -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 12:26:01 PM)
Great Iboat usage![&o]

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 12:47:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Great Iboat usage![&o] The I-boats and IJN subs in general are just great. Using the floatplane subs en-masse in a single key theatre is IMO the best way to use them. It makes it easier to generate good intel on convoys, and much easier to act on it by having so many subs around. That said, the single biggest bonus is using Luganville as a fleet base - that puts the Allied way, way back (thanks Bullwinkle [;)]) in terms of logistics.

Bif1961 -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 1:04:05 PM)
Since no Swordfish or Albacores were lost with the two British carriers and there were 30ish fighters on CAP when the KB attacked, it would seem that the Hermes was being used as the aircraft transport for the lost wildcats. So the Idomitable was providing the total CAP. I guess the CVE could have been the Hermes as it only has 20 AC capability which is on par with the US CVE Long Island.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 1:20:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bif1961 Since no Swordfish or Albacores were lost with the two British carriers and there were 30ish fighters on CAP when the KB attacked, it would seem that the Hermes was being used as the aircraft transport for the lost wildcats. So the Idomitable was providing the total CAP. I guess the CVE could have been the Hermes as it only has 20 AC capability which is on par with the US CVE Long Island. That's my take on it at any rate, but I need to double check the manual. Could be another ship elsewhere that sunk. I had figured that the Allied TF was the Long Island as Loka had made a comment a few turns back about having the Long Island arrive and it fits with the timetable. Very happy to have sunk a proper CV, a CVL and a bunch of CA rather than the disappointment that is the Long Island.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 1:40:54 PM)
For some context to the SWPAC action: [img]https://i.imgur.com/QSxz8A3.png[/img] I've subs hunting outside Auckland as it's the biggest Allied port east of the Australian mainland. The KB is running back north to Luganville while the tracking subs are dispersing eastwards. I'm pretty sure this is the furthest south I've ever taken the KB in a PBEM...

Lowpe -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 2:03:37 PM)
Are they all lone sub task forces flying Glens? Was it difficult to get the KB that far south without any detection from Allied bases?

Mike Solli -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 2:03:48 PM)
That's amazing. I don't think I've ever seen KB that far south in any game!

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 2:28:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Are they all lone sub task forces flying Glens? Was it difficult to get the KB that far south without any detection from Allied bases? 6 lone I-boats, two had Glens, four had Jakes. Need to get the Glens off those subs ASAP, the Jakes make such a difference. I think it had a low DL spike a hex or two south of Luganville, so maybe coast watchers or some such, but apart from that, not a whiff AFAIK. It's difficult for Loka to get eyes on this part of the map, geography works very heavily against him. Japanese positions in New Caledonia and Fiji means there's an awful lot of ocean to cover and there's never enough planes to do it. quote: That's amazing. I don't think I've ever seen KB that far south in any game! For the record, it's 11 hexes off the southern map border. Having Luganville as the forward fleet base really makes operations like this possible. I think I was about five days sail to intercept, and I'm about four days back to Luganville. There's still 20k fuel waiting to refill the KB, but by that point I'm likely to send them home for the '42 upgrade cycle and then keep them cloaked for a while. At any rate, it has interesting implications for Loka's planning for the future if the SLOC from the West Coast to Oz can be interdicted like this.

Bif1961 -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 4:41:01 PM)
You might want to send half them back keeping 1/2 as a fleet in being to be able to counter any attacks or too show the flag making him doubt you have under gone your mid 42 upgrades. As you get the Medium converted carriers and CVLs you can swap them for the carriers that need upgrades. You might want to send the ones that get radars for upgrades first as that would be helpful to you in the near future.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 6:01:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bif1961 You might want to send half them back keeping 1/2 as a fleet in being to be able to counter any attacks or too show the flag making him doubt you have under gone your mid 42 upgrades. As you get the Medium converted carriers and CVLs you can swap them for the carriers that need upgrades. You might want to send the ones that get radars for upgrades first as that would be helpful to you in the near future. Loka will think I'm doing that anyways, so I may as well do the lot on the fly. I also think it's more efficient throwing the entire KB offline for 15 to 21 days than doing it in dribs and drabs. The Kagero's are going in to the shops as well for more 25mm guns.

Lowpe -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 10:39:27 PM)
Well if you only upgrade half your ships, then you are without a full strength kb twice as long. It is not always bad, even if something happens, Japan can't respond to every Allied attack.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/30/2019 10:46:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Well if you only upgrade half your ships, then you are without a full strength kb twice as long. It is not always bad, even if something happens, Japan can't respond to every Allied attack. Exactly so - I very rarely, if ever, fight with the KB divided. Plus, just about all the ships need some form of downtime. If not upgrades then a few days to knock off accumulated damage.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (5/31/2019 12:40:18 PM)
Pilot Training...Again Let's take a wide overview of Japanese average pilot EXP: Pilot Loss Summary Pilot Losses: 88 MIA, 99 WIA, 487 KIA Pilot EXP [img]https://i.imgur.com/fGN33RC.png[/img] Breakdown by Aircraft Type Fighter Pilots Feeling fairly comfortable here. The IJA is sorted for the mid-term with 280 odd trained pilots in the reserve. The IJN is lagging behind with only 90 odd, and the average EXP level isn't great. However, the training squadrons will get a boost in a couple of weeks once the KB rotates home and I can upsize the training groups to 81 planes. Fighter-Bomber I've only upgraded two squadrons so far, and the average EXP isn't great. They're both off to China to work up to the 55-60 EXP range. Dive-Bomber Doing fine here. The current pool is a little on the low side with just 35 in the reserve, but there's 200 or so pilots nearly finishing NavS training that will give me a nice cushion. There's few dive bomber squadrons outwith the KB, so this is fine for the present. I've also pulled the IJA NavB pilots into the reserve for to start on another round of pilot training for the Lily DB at the turn of the year. Recon Really stretched thin here due to my fondness for using IJA recon squadrons for NavS. I've about half the squadrons frantically training NavS and Recon and the other half working on the frontlines, which should give me a cushion for the IJA. The IJN is a different matter, as there's only 3 IJN recon squadrons, and I'm using all three on the frontlines. I hope to have them all swapped out for IJA squadrons or floatplanes in a month or two. At that point, I'll throw all the active pilots into the reserve, steal some IJN NavS floatplane pilots and train them up in recon to jumpstart the process. Transport Not much to say here. Patrol I won't be taking Patrol squadrons off frontline work here, so I'll just steal high EXP NavS floatplane pilots for these guys. Floatplane/Float Fighter Starting to build up a good reserve here. There's another batch of NavS/ASW pilots due to graduate soon, and at that point I'll re-organize all the squadrons to make things as effective as possible. The Float Fighter squadrons are about two months away from being combat ready, but once the first round of pilots are ready I'll likely just pull IJN fighter pilots for these squadrons. Torpedo Bomber/IJN 2E Bombers Same situation as IJN dive-bombers. I've approx. 500 pilots in the last few months of their training. Most are already NavT and just training NavB. Once they're ready I'll throw in a couple weeks of NavS to save them having to learn it "on the job". Discussion On the whole, I'm pretty pleased with this. The number of level bomber pilots in the general reserve is not accurate as I've dumped all the high EXP pilots doing NavB training into the reserve with the average NavB skill at around 60. I've then changed the IJA level bombing training regime to be NavB (70 skill) > ASW (70 skill) > GrdB (till 70 DEF). I feel that this is a more useful skillset and it is simple to develop GrdB skills "on-thejob" in China and other quiet regions. The overall situation of frontline squadrons is excellent. The lowest EXP units are at the low 50 mark, while nearly all the frontline fighter units sit around the mid 70 EXP mark. They don't go any higher as I'm culling the 81+ EXP pilots constantly. On the whole, I feel that the low-intensity air war, combined with cotton-wooling my pilots, seems to be working. 63% (815 out of 1277) of overall IJ plane losses are due to OPS, with just 19% being A2A. I hope this lasts!

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (6/4/2019 8:38:44 PM)
June 12th to June 16th, 1942 After the excitement of stalking and eliminating an Allied Carrier force, the next four days are pretty quiet in comparison. North Pacific Quiet. Central Pacific I-1 sinks two xAK's while stalking outside San Francisco. I've not many subs out here due to the focus on SWPAC, but there might be some value to staking out San Fran. Currently it's just I-1 and I-2, but we'll see if they pick up more kills in the near future. The heavy cruiser force that tangled with the Allied raiding force last week has made it to Rabual, where they've refuelled and detached the cripples. The Haguro and 3 DD's will stay at Rabual to perform emergency repairs while the rest of the ships are en-route back to the Home Islands to repair there. Their replacements are just north of Guadalcanal, having transited from Japan. South-West Pacific The Allies send the remaining destroyers from their CV force on a do-or-die bid to sink the KB. They fail, and the KB's magic pilots sink the lot. 20k of supply is now ashore on Fiji, along with the 16th Army HQ and a artillery regiment. This is the first wave of reinforcements to start reducing the Allied hole here. Approx. 50 IJA bombers and 36 IJN bombers are hammering Suva nearly every day, so the supply of the Allied defenders is being eroded slowly. I'll set up LRCAP next turn in an effort to catch any transports flying in. IJN subs have caught a whiff of Allied activity around Tahiti, so subs are converging to see what materializes. DEI A division intended for Darwin is currently waiting for ships to gather at Hong Kong before being shipped out. Operations here are a bit of a shoe-string, but the Allies appear very passive in this region. A Dutch sub is spotted and attacked outside Batavia, being hit once. Lots of ASW assets, both air and naval, have been moved in to the area to try and sink it. Hopefully we can catch it in shallow water and put it down for good. Burma The envelopment of Rangoon has begun, with the IJA 5th Division set to brush aside a Chinese HQ unit outside Pegu, then swing west towards Prome. Naval shelling of Rangoon begins, with 4 Mogami-class CA's and 10 DD's hammering the defenders to good effect. This will continue for the near future, but we're limited by the fact that only so much re-arming can be conducted by a single AKE in a level 1 port. I've decided to convert some more AKE's in Singapore, but for the moment we will need to make do with intermittent bombardment runs. China Chengtu falls on the 13th: quote: round combat at Chengtu (75,41) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 70729 troops, 542 guns, 934 vehicles, Assault Value = 2425 Defending force 16688 troops, 135 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 350 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 1435 Allied adjusted defense: 245 Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Chengtu !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 791 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 71 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled) Vehicles lost 29 (2 destroyed, 27 disabled) Allied ground losses: 6824 casualties reported Squads: 150 destroyed, 109 disabled Non Combat: 291 destroyed, 109 disabled Engineers: 35 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 53 (16 destroyed, 37 disabled) Units retreated 6 Units destroyed 1 Troops are now repositioning. The tanks will chase the fleeing Chinese troops in to the mountains, while the infantry and artillery re-focuses on Chungking and wearing down the defence there. With Chengtu eliminated, IJ air assets are also freed up to re-focus, and split between bombing Chungking and degrading Chinese strength in the mountains. Luzon The defenders of Luzon are on their last legs, with Allied AV around the 250 mark against 1.2k Japanese AV. Hopefully, the lack of supply and falling AV and fort levels will trigger a mass surrender next turn, as there's troops here that are urgently needed in other theatres. While the situation overall is stable, I'd not refuse the use of two divisions and some regiments... All in all, good turns. Long may they last!

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (6/10/2019 1:29:19 PM)
June 17th, 1942 Good turn! North Pacific I've moved a size 48 squadron of Zeros up here to fly CAP to build EXP and act as a theatre reserve in case of emergency. Otherwise, quiet. Central Pacific The Wake Island garrison is currently off-loading. The island itself will be slightly overstacked beyond the 6000 troop limit, but that's acceptable. In the next few turns I'll be pulling the CD gun unit off to use it elsewhere, so that should keep things manageable. Once everything is in place there will be about 120 AV on the island. Behind level 5 or so forts, that should be enough to force the Allies to make an all-out landing effort. I-1 missed a USN DM off San Francisco, ruining its recent good run of attacks. A USN S-boat takes a pot-shot at a xAK off Saipan, exposing a weakness in ASW/naval search here. I'll need to remedy this at some point soon. South-West Pacific Allied ships spotted off Tongatapu. I'm letting the Betties on Fiji off the leash to go and attack, as Allied air power has not contested the sweeps over Tongatapu. The 17th Army HQ and an artillery regiment has arrived at Suva. Bombardments will now begin to wear down the Allied defenders, while 50 IJA bombers continue to hammer the base from above. The KB is headed back home, managing to dodge USN sub screens around Luganville. The carriers should make it back to Kobe by the end of the month. Speaking of USN subs, I suspect that my big ASW air effort may be paying off. IJA and IJN ASW air assets are reporting about 4 attacks per turn on USN subs around Lugaville and Fiji. None reported sunk so far, but they seem to be keeping the subs heads down and helping build EXP. Long may it last! Northern Australia Spinning this off into a seperate theatre now that I've decided to commit to capturing Darwin. A IJN Base Force is about ten days away from Wyndham. Once they're ashore, this will be the reciving port for IJA reinforcements. The short term upscale in IJA units will be pretty rapid. Two IJA tank regiments will be relocating from Sumatra, with two more possibly from Java (depending on garrison requirements), along with a Mixed Brigade from Timor. This should bring IJA forces in the Darwin area up to around 300-400 AV. The next wave will be the 40th Division from China, which has been hanging out at Hong Kong for some time. DEI I've spent some time refining convoy routes, and so far things are good, but work needs to be done. Fuel, oil and resources are moving to the Home Islands via Singapore very nicely, but oil is starting to build up at the Borneo bases, mainly at Balikipapan. The Std-C xAK class conversion to TK has taken place, so I hope to use those tankers to help keep the oil flowing more smoothly back to Japan. Luzon Allied resistance on Luzon is finally snuffed out at Bataan: quote: Ground combat at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 46690 troops, 515 guns, 392 vehicles, Assault Value = 1134 Defending force 27074 troops, 350 guns, 459 vehicles, Assault Value = 211 Japanese adjusted assault: 425 Allied adjusted defense: 183 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), supply(-) Attacker: disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 777 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 80 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 31038 casualties reported Squads: 600 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 2724 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 87 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 500 (500 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 596 (596 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 29 It is quite overdue, but very welcome. Minesweepers are on hand to start clearing the minefield, and behind them wait ships to cart away the IJA units to other theatres. 3 divisions are destined for Fiji along with the entire artillery train. Two tank regiments for Darwin via Wyndham, while three smaller combat units will be sent to the DEI to free up combat units for the Darwin offensive. The engineers and aviation support will all go to bolster the defence of the DEI, leaving behind sufficent units to keep garrison requirements in the Phillipines and conduct gradual development of bases in preparation for the late-war. China IJA operations to clear the Chungking plains are slowed by Chinese units scattering to attempt to flee westwards. They'll likely make it. A push on Kunming from IJA forces in the area is assembling, but will likely be forced to move slowly due to massive numbers of Chinese reported at Kunming. Burma The Chinese Communist 8th Route Army is bloodied outside Rangoon by two IJA divisions. This starts off the IJA move to encircle Rangoon. 24 Allied units remain inside Rangoon, including one Indian division (the 20th) and ten Chinese corps. The quality of the defending units is uniformly poor, with the Allied defenders scarce being able to reach 1.2k AV. However, I'll be happier once they're destroyed. [image]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Corregidor_gun.jpg[/image] More than a month later than historical but no less welcome for it - Bataan is in Japanese hands.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (6/23/2019 11:12:04 PM)
June 18th to June 22nd, 1942 Fallen off the front page, need to change that. North Pacific Zzz� Central Pacific Pretty quiet, been shuffling some units about in the Marshalls to maximize aviation support. Unlike my previous game I'm putting this theatre on the backburner in terms of reinforcements. The USN light cruiser St Louis dodges IJN naval search and picks off two xAK's and PB west of Nauru Island. Search is still poor here, but work is underway to firm it back up and lock Allied raiders out. On top of that I'm sending everything via Rabual, which should be a more secure SLOC. South-West Pacific Good progress here. On the 18th, Betties from Fiji sortie at the ships reported of Tongatapu and make torpedo runs on some big USN xAPs. The Wakefield takes a torpedo in the AM phase and another in the PM phase, while the Mount Vernon takes one in the morning and three more torp hits in the afternoon. The big xAP West Point escapes unharmed, unfortunately. IJA artillery on Fiji begins bombarding the defenders at Suva, for dismal effect. We do, however, generate good intel on the defenders: quote: Ground combat at Suva (132,160) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 360 troops, 28 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1539 Defending force 44189 troops, 839 guns, 881 vehicles, Assault Value = 1308 Japanese ground losses: Guns lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled) Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: Maizuru 1st SNLF Guards Mixed Brigade 4th Division 54th Division 16th Division 62nd Naval Guard Unit 17th Army 23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 41st Infantry Division 24th Infantry Div /1 8th NZ Brigade Americal Infantry Division 27th Infantry Division 8th Marine Rgt /1 1st RNZAF Base Force 147th Field Artillery Regiment 148th Field Artillery Battalion 131st Field Artillery Battalion 8th Marine Defense Battalion 9th Australian Brigade 115th USAAF Base Force /1 114th USAAF Base Force /1 Some US Army fighters have been darting around between Tongatapu and Suva, but they've not flown much and when they have, IJN Zeros have swept them from the skies. This has left the IJA bombers on Fiji free to keep flying milk runs suppressing Suva's airbase. The Allies have enough engineers to keep re-opening it, but it's wasting supply and thus fulfilling the primary goal. The only real move from the Allies in the air has been small night time bombing raids on the Japanese airbase and Nadi. So far, damage has been mild, but I've sent a small Rufe group to fly night CAP to put their aim off. The IJN adds to the bombardment on the 22nd, hitting Suva for mild results: quote: Night Naval bombardment of Suva at 132,160 Japanese Ships CA Chokai CA Maya CA Takao DD Asagumo DD Minegumo DD Yamagumo DD Arashio DD Michishio DD Oshio Allied ground losses: 50 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 14 Port hits 7 Port supply hits 1 The IJN ships are headed back to Luganville to rearm and get the Fiji Express rolling. The sub war has calmed down some, but IJN subs are generating good intel about Allied ship movements at Pehnryn Island and Tahiti, but no big sightings or sinkings since the British CV force. We do get some luck with the four Type KRS minelaying submarines. In May they dropped some mines off at Pehnryn, and on the 22nd a Dutch destroyer ran out of luck. quote: TF 236 encounters mine field at Penrhyn Island (168,159) Allied Ships DD Evertsen, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage All four of the minelaying subs are en-route to Rabual to rearm, and then will likely be redeployed to mine Tahiti. Northern Australia Not much to report here. The Base Force is starting to come ashore, the 40th Division is en-route. Additional units are in the pipeline. The Allies appear to have abandoned Darwin entirely. 12 units are reported at Katherine with just 1 unit (the static CD unit) reported at Darwin. The Darwin CD unit doesn't have much AV, so I'm considering two options to exploit this. Option A involves rushing a paratrooper unit from Tokyo to Timor and taking the base by airborne descent. Option B involves taking the six slow battleships currently at anchor at Soerabaja and using them to cover a brute-force amphibious landing of a SNLF unit at Darwin. I'm inclined towards Option A as previously I've had bad experiences with the Darwin CD guns. Even though they're only 6 inch guns, IJN merchantmen seem to seriously not get along with them. DEI ASW assets tangle with a Dutch sub outside Batavia on the 18th, but fail to sink it. Still, it likely sent the sub home. The Std-C type tankers have started to arrive, allowing me to pull fuel from Miri much more efficently. As more of the conversions arrive, I'll be re-adjusting convoys from the other oil producing bases as well. Luzon The mines at Bataan are all cleared away, the transports are tied to the Manila dockside and the Allies are defeated. This closes this theatre of the war for the time being. The first wave of units departing Luzon are headed for Java. Mostly engineers and aviation support, they'll get to work on the defense network for the oil centres. More ships are en-route to get troops moving to Fiji and Australia (via Java). China Japanese troops move in to Chungking and we get some indication of what sort of resistance to expect: quote: Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 9445 troops, 646 guns, 565 vehicles, Assault Value = 7050 Defending force 135590 troops, 674 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3162 Japanese ground losses: Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 11 (5 destroyed, 6 disabled) Allied ground losses: 177 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled With about 2k IJA assault value in the immediate vicinity of Chungking chasing down stragglers, I'm very excited. Once the situation stabilizes, the Japanese will have a 3:1 advantage in raw AV. The first deliberate attack should take place within a week, which will give us a better indication of timeframe before Chungking falls. I suspect that Loka has built the forts up to level 7 (Chungking starts with level 6 forts on Dec 7th), but I doubt they'll be higher than that. In the air, I made a mistake and had some Nicks bomb at 100ft, losing a half dozen or so to flak. Kunming was also bombed again, destroying a few planes on the ground. Flak was quite stiff, so I've drawn off all the bombers from Kunming to Chungking for the foreseeable future. Burma In an unexpected move, the Allies abandon Rangoon before the Japanese flanking move is completed. I hadn't seen any indication of the Allied troops moving out (on the map or otherwise), and the Allies were able to withdraw unharmed. Quite happy to get the best port in Burma fairly easily (as well as take a cool 1200 base VP's off the Allies), and minesweepers are on hand to clear the mines while supply convoy from Singapore is due in a day or two. The best news is that there's still a solid chance to trap and catch the Allied units before they withdraw further northwards: [img]https://i.imgur.com/xV2ELZq.png[/img] There might also be increase air combat. Recently, unescorted Allied Blenheim sorties against IJA troops around Rangoon were punished severely by Oscars from Thailand, but with the fall of Rangoon, Japanese air power can now threaten the Allied airbase at Akyab. The Allies have marshalled some 40 fighters at the base, and in response I've sent some 90 Oscars to Moulmein to sweep the base. I've seen little, if any, Allied fighters in Burma, so depleting the RAF pools is a big priority for Japan in this theatre. Other Events The components of the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions have arrived. All the units are moving via rail to Fusan, where they'll be loaded for deployment to the DEI. One tank regiment for each division is in action around Chungking - they'll immediately be redeployed to Hong Kong for transfer overseas. I have roughly enough PP's to move one tank division out of the restricted Kwantung Army command. I'm liking the notion of using both tank divisions in Northern Australia for 1942 then moving them back to Sumatra for 1943 onwards. The IJN CA force that tangled with the Allied raiders a few weeks back makes it back to Kobe. Repairs will take about a week, after which the ships will relocate to Rabual. The much more seriously damaged Haguro, being repaired at Rabual, is nearly 40 days away from being back in prime condition. The KB is currently north of Eniwetok, en route to Kobe. I'm running the fighters at 100% CAP at zero range to help boost EXP amongst the newer pilots, but I'm planning to do a big re-shuffle of IJN air units once the KB is down for repairs. We've also broken 100 IJN pilots in TRACOM, which is nice. Only 36 IJA, but they've not seen as much action as the IJN pilots. Hopefully that will change and we can push more past the magic 81 point!

Mike Solli -> RE: Christmas Update (6/24/2019 1:01:25 PM)
Couple questions for you: Do you tend to use your minelaying subs in groups? Fewer nuisance minefields that way but much bigger ones. I keep mine in single ship TFs for the most part. More nuisance, less bang. Can you put up a map of the Pacific? I'm curious to see where you are right now. Do you keep any TRACOM capable pilots in your frontline fighter groups? I tend to keep 1-2 in land based fighter units and 3-6 in KB's fighter groups. I yank all the bomber pilots as soon as I spot them.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (6/24/2019 1:43:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mike Solli Couple questions for you: Do you tend to use your minelaying subs in groups? Fewer nuisance minefields that way but much bigger ones. I keep mine in single ship TFs for the most part. More nuisance, less bang. Can you put up a map of the Pacific? I'm curious to see where you are right now. Do you keep any TRACOM capable pilots in your frontline fighter groups? I tend to keep 1-2 in land based fighter units and 3-6 in KB's fighter groups. I yank all the bomber pilots as soon as I spot them. Not forgotten about our game, by the way, will get to it at some point. Regarding your questions: I use the subs in one TF as it's less clicks, but you're right that 4 sets of 20 mines is more effective than one set of 80 mines. Will start to change that now. I pull all TRACOM capable pilots off the frontline ASAP. In these early stages of the war, I don't want them flying and dying in unarmoured, low durability planes. Better that they get the required 81 EXP then start training replacement pilots. Plus, I feel that the qualitative difference between a pilot with 79, 80 and 81 EXP is small, but the strategic difference is big. Plus, pilots in TRACOM won't go anywhere so they can get shifted out once better airframes arrive. The other consideration is that the massive expansion of IJN squadrons due to floatplane and carrier squadron resizing has meant I've used up all the IJN replacement pilots. Any more and I'm drawing pilots that haven't completed the full training. Doing that is fine, as I still have excess training capacity, but I'd rather avoid it as it means it takes longer to build EXP. As EXP takes much longer to develop than skillsets, I like to maximize the benefit from the pilot replacement mechanic to get pilots with essentially free EXP. World view attached. [img]https://i.imgur.com/Qey3mH0.png[/img] Few things to note: - The lone IJ base in the Line Islands is just a dot hex that has flipped. - Leaving Batan Island (north of Luzon) in Allied hands so that it triggers kamikazes in 1/1/1944. Doubt I'll commit to using kamikazes at that point, but I like the option. - Clean-up of dot bases in the DEI is underway. - I'm happy with the current frontlines, mainly as I've good buffers the key areas of Australia and the Pacific (Aleutians, Gilberts and around Fiji/New Caledonia).

Lowpe -> RE: Christmas Update (6/24/2019 2:18:23 PM)
A concern in Burma, is that the Allies pursue a fortress Lashio gambit. It can be quite troublesome as there is a Command HQ within range from India, along with the Burma HQc. About the only spots on the map where the Allies can get the 100% bonus outside of the PI(1) and China (1). I guess Oz has 1 too.

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (6/24/2019 2:31:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe A concern in Burma, is that the Allies pursue a fortress Lashio gambit. It can be quite troublesome as there is a Command HQ within range from India, along with the Burma HQc. About the only spots on the map where the Allies can get the 100% bonus outside of the PI(1) and China (1). I guess Oz has 1 too. That's an interesting notion, it makes sense given that Lashio is x3 terrain. Allied stack has moved to Prome from Rangoon, so I am pretty sure they'll run north to Akyab. Akyaab and Cox's has been developed somewhat by the Allies and I imagine the units would head there. If they do head eastwards I'll have an indication in a turn or two. I'd hope for a fortress Lashio gambit, as I can pretty easily interdict supply from Burma. China is certainly supply deprived and then its just a matter of waiting till Chungking is cleared up and those units can crack Lashio. With Rangoon in Japanese hands, I've the main thing I want from Burma. Magwe and the oil is nice, but what I really want is a good frontline to last me through '44. I don't like the ground war in Burma, I feel it just sucks divisions and supply. If the oil ends up fried I'm seriously considering just digging in to the southern half of Burma and make Loka dig me out slowly.

Bif1961 -> RE: Christmas Update (6/24/2019 3:44:06 PM)
Allowing Batan Island to remain an allied base that would auto trigger Kamikazes on 1/1/44 sounds rather gamey to me.

Lowpe -> RE: Christmas Update (6/24/2019 3:49:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bif1961 Allowing Batan Island to remain an allied base that would auto trigger Kamikazes on 1/1/44 sounds rather gamey to me. Well, this is a game.[:D] Having the Communist Chinese Route Army at Rangoon is equally as gamey, and this is a no House Rules game, I believe. They can push the game engine however they want![:)]

mind_messing -> RE: Christmas Update (6/24/2019 4:24:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bif1961 Allowing Batan Island to remain an allied base that would auto trigger Kamikazes on 1/1/44 sounds rather gamey to me. As Lowpe says, no house rules. It makes for a better game in my opinion.

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