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DonH58 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/18/2020 10:42:58 PM)

I'm having game freezes and loading issues with Version 1.81r, but I'm running it on Win10 with out the 2004 patch.
I disabled windows defender and also tried the Large Address Aware still had same result
Should I update to version 2004?

Out of memory
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System.OutOfMemoryException: Out of memory.
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Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/18/2020 11:22:38 PM)

Good work.

Two things:

If you have a CTD sometime after starting a game try disabling controlled folder access in Windows Defender. Worked for me.

Is anyone else experiencing a "flickering" in the research panels? I'm going to have a seizure.

Edit: I too received the OoM error Don listed above but only when I went to save. I'm running 2004.



DonH58 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 12:14:33 AM)

Tried new game WD totally disabled this time no OoM message, but just a straight crash to the desk top.



RogerBacon -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 12:14:46 AM)

I did not use Large Address Aware on the 1.81r build. I wanted to eliminated as many variables as possible that might have been contributing factors. You can run LAA and see if it fixes memory issues.

I had flickering on the research screen years ago with Windows 7 both vanilla and Bacon mod. It always forshadowed a crash when I would try to save the game. My new computer didn't have the issue but I never did figure out what caused it. Retreat, does the game crash when saving after you have the flickering research screen?



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 12:17:06 AM)

Flickering is constant as is the save issue... investigating. Otherwise the game runs fine, but I'd like to save ;)



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 4:38:22 AM)

I did a complete reinstall as a last resort

The game runs and switches themes normally but with bacon it will run but I can't switch themes.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/lHShEqq.png[/image]

The jpg is there so idk.

Large address aware is the problem for loading RetreatUE and saving games. I haven't added the DasBlue part yet so fingers crossed...



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 6:03:46 PM)

It's still broke. I don't want to put any effort into it anymore.



RogerBacon -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 6:31:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

It's still broke. I don't want to put any effort into it anymore.


Running the exe through LAA didn't fix the flickering and save game issue?


Is anyone else having this problem?



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 6:54:11 PM)

I apologize Roger... frustrations you know. They get the better of me.

I should have explained better before. LAA fixed the flicker and save issue. Good, but I was still getting an intermittent crash that I thought I took a screenshot of but I didn't.

So I guess I have to play after all to check it out.



rjord2021 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 7:01:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RogerBacon


quote:

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

It's still broke. I don't want to put any effort into it anymore.


Running the exe through LAA didn't fix the flickering and save game issue?


Is anyone else having this problem?



Will test it when I get back home in a few hours time




https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi7sHS4Lzp6Lh3p0xu0WQdQ/


[image]local://upfiles/44980/6F8BF02B39754A368114CE43AAF6B79F.jpg[/image]



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 7:41:03 PM)

In my previous post I stated it was fixed.



RogerBacon -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/19/2020 8:55:24 PM)

Retreat, turn off auto-save just incase the intermittant crashes are happening during auto-save. I know it is frustrating but I really feel we are over the worst of it and there is light at the end of the tunnel. Besides, with my luck I'll work really hard to fix everything and then DW2 will come out the next day and everyone will forget the Bacon mod.



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/20/2020 1:20:18 AM)

Firstly, I'd like to preface that I'm an idiot.

Secondly, I tend to get dramatic. Apologies.

Lastly, weird things happen when you forget to put baconsettings.txt in your game folder.

I'm mid deep in a 1400 extreme (and losing) with no problems with bacon.



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/20/2020 4:47:20 AM)

...and crash.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/nzLP7Fi.png[/image]

Game behavior was still strange. I couldn't fulfill any resource orders at all. I wasn't building anything but mines and the constructors were stuck waiting on resources that finally came... but never dropped anything off.

I'm going to retry with the cargo setting to normal.



rjord2021 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/20/2020 6:08:54 AM)

Retreat..... are you using any other mods or just the Bacon mod?



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/20/2020 7:03:33 AM)

DasRetreatBacon

This next game is holding on. I should be pretty far hopefully by tomorrow night. No strange behaviors yet. Maybe the higher base cargo setting was to blame.



RogerBacon -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/20/2020 1:30:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

...and crash.



The top Bacon method in the stack is BaconFighter.AssignCap. That method tells a fighter to target a bomber that is currently targeting the fighter's carrier. It is possible, although unlikely from a timeing perspective, that the target was destroyed between the time to bomber was selected and the time the fighter was given the assignment. I'll wrap it in try-catch block for the next version.



rollhax -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/21/2020 4:54:09 AM)

This is what my save screen looks like with 1.81r DW.exe. I can't post images yet. so will DM it.

Unable to set a name or anything. If I save with the default name, it writes a file to disk, but I get an unhandled exception, and the "Saving the Galaxy" spinner never goes away. I had to kill the game via task mgr. I tried to start a new game and save to get the stack trace, but decided to try ctrl+e to test commands and the game just crashed. Will try again tomorrow.



Tanaka -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/21/2020 5:21:08 AM)

Decided to revisit for updates and am running into the no launch problem like others. I guess this problem is still being worked on?



rjord2021 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/21/2020 5:32:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

Decided to revisit for updates and am running into the no launch problem like others. I guess this problem is still being worked on?




If you are on windows 10 2004 make sure you are using this file from RogerBacon.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhoru5ui85g8uhx/DistantWorlds.exe?dl=0



rjord2021 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/21/2020 5:37:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

Decided to revisit for updates and am running into the no launch problem like others. I guess this problem is still being worked on?


Make sure you run the file as an administrator.
Also check the file startup.ini in the distant worlds folder... you may need to change the last line to

playmovie 0



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/21/2020 6:02:28 AM)

I'm running a monster game atm and 75 years in so far so good. I have a decent i7 16g desktop but it's a slideshow.

Rollhax: Did you enable LAA on the exe? There's programs on the web to do that.

Cargo is still wonky. Construction ships that go out to build but forgot to pick up resources so they go back. Planets never getting resources and therefore in a build stall forever. New colonies having their cargo reserved for somewhere else. Cargo ships bringing supplies but not dropping them off and the resources disappear. None of this is game breaking but it is peculiar behavior.

ctrl-w is my new friend. GJ Roger.



rollhax -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/21/2020 6:37:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970
Rollhax: Did you enable LAA on the exe? There's programs on the web to do that.


Yep I did.



RogerBacon -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/21/2020 1:27:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rollhax

This is what my save screen looks like with 1.81r DW.exe. I can't post images yet. so will DM it.

Unable to set a name or anything. If I save with the default name, it writes a file to disk, but I get an unhandled exception, and the "Saving the Galaxy" spinner never goes away. I had to kill the game via task mgr. I tried to start a new game and save to get the stack trace, but decided to try ctrl+e to test commands and the game just crashed. Will try again tomorrow.


Save issues are usually due to anti-virus. Make sure the exe has permission to write to the save directory. Even if you gave it permission before you might need to again since each version of the exe will have a different signature. I had to do that when I switched back in the vanilla exe for testing.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

I'm running a monster game atm and 75 years in so far so good.


That's good to hear.
quote:

I have a decent i7 16g desktop but it's a slideshow.


Yeah, handling movement for 1999;s of ships in realtime is super demanding. Nothing we can really do about that. Back in the 90's when CPU puwer was doubling every year or two we could just wait and play it a few years later but now technology has kinda hit a wall. Turning off travel vectors will help. I never used them but I saw a youtube where someone had them on and it slowed the game down.

Your cargo problems sound interesting, although you probably have a different adjective to describe them. Remember, for critical build jobs where your construction ships are stuck you can order manual supply missions to them the same way you order manual supply missions to any other target. Of course, such micromanagement is not fun but its better than nothing. I've never had a game go as long as yours has.




Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/21/2020 5:54:03 PM)

It was a slideshow with Legends in 2012 and still is today.

I'm now grateful for the extra commands. I've run a few bacon games in the past but I usually ignored commands.



Tanaka -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/22/2020 2:14:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rjord1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

Decided to revisit for updates and am running into the no launch problem like others. I guess this problem is still being worked on?




If you are on windows 10 2004 make sure you are using this file from RogerBacon.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhoru5ui85g8uhx/DistantWorlds.exe?dl=0


Tried that and it says system cannot run so I'm assuming not.



Tanaka -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/22/2020 2:15:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rjord1

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

Decided to revisit for updates and am running into the no launch problem like others. I guess this problem is still being worked on?


Make sure you run the file as an administrator.
Also check the file startup.ini in the distant worlds folder... you may need to change the last line to

playmovie 0


Tried these as well and still no launch after clicking ok on bacon box.



Retreat1970 -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/22/2020 2:21:36 AM)

In Windows go to settings > system > about. Look for Windows Specifications. It will tell the version you are running. If it's 2004 or 20H2 then you have to run the 1.81r bacon.exe.



rollhax -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/22/2020 2:32:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RogerBacon
Save issues are usually due to anti-virus. Make sure the exe has permission to write to the save directory. Even if you gave it permission before you might need to again since each version of the exe will have a different signature. I had to do that when I switched back in the vanilla exe for testing.


Could you expand on how to do this? I'm more of a Linux guy, this doesn't seem straight forward to me in Windows. File permissions for all users on my save dir (and its parent dirs) are wide open.



Tanaka -> RE: Bacon Mod (10/22/2020 3:31:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

In Windows go to settings > system > about. Look for Windows Specifications. It will tell the version you are running. If it's 2004 or 20H2 then you have to run the 1.81r bacon.exe.


Thanks so it is 2004 but why will my system not run the exe? It says this app cannot run on your PC?



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