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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/20/2017 2:55:07 PM)

I don't know Vonik, I don't know.



vonik -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/21/2017 2:42:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: wie201

I don't know Vonik, I don't know.


Normally the Reds are inf 2 latest september 41 . He's still 0 in July .
Perhaps he produced loads of tanks but on the East Front everything is played in 41 - the ground and time lost then is hard to impossible to get back as you have seen in your previous game .
His low tech Soviet units simply evaporate and buy neither time nor space . Very Strange .



wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/21/2017 9:33:16 PM)

He lost badly in France, we were both surprised by North Africa, so I think he thinks that he has to do something desperate. Get me deep into Russia and low on supply, and open up one (or more) second fronts in the West to draw off manpower.

To win our "bet" he has to win by 1944.

Remember I kept Greece out of the war AND got lucky with reinforcements that I could (and did) place right at the Yugoslavian border immediately after he brought them to his side. Those two Panzers and SF troops took Yugo in a few turns and still came JUST late to Barbarossa. Finland is not in and I haven't tried to get Spain. In fact, I'm not sure it is worth it to get Norway and Denmark.

So I am trying to make it as small a frontline as possible, and win on quality. Mark needs to broaden the line and go after either (1) my Panzers or (2) my weaker than normal infantry forces, forcing the Panzers to run to and fro to counter-attack and plug gaps.

I asked Mark if he would like to post his side, and I won't repeat what he said :)

It's not over yet - he is a good player whenever we play on cardboard. This game perhaps has just caught him a bit unawares.



wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/22/2017 7:20:54 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/22/2017 7:22:32 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/22/2017 7:23:20 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/22/2017 7:24:53 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/22/2017 7:26:22 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/22/2017 7:28:19 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/22/2017 8:28:40 PM)

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vonik -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/23/2017 3:58:23 PM)

Well you are Inf 2, Pz 2, bombers 2 against Inf 0, no tanks and no planes .
Not surprising that you anihilate anything that you meet . You'll be in Moscow in September if it continues like that :)

In Africa you were "Lucky" that it was still prior to 1.05 where the Axis win was more or less automatic .
Now with the new supply rules you'd struggle even after DAK arrival and there is now a very real possibility that the Allied hold on long into 41 .



wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/27/2017 12:09:08 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/27/2017 12:09:39 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/27/2017 12:10:16 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/27/2017 12:10:38 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/27/2017 12:11:00 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/27/2017 6:05:11 PM)

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vonik -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/28/2017 1:26:10 PM)

Russians still inf 0 . Stranger and stranger .
They "hold" the front with garrisons yet must still have plenty MPP what means that they are spending all that for Something that you don't see :)
Where are their tanks ?!



wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/29/2017 5:06:24 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/29/2017 5:07:25 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/29/2017 5:08:31 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/29/2017 5:09:14 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/29/2017 5:11:30 PM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/29/2017 5:14:11 PM)

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tog34 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/29/2017 9:27:34 PM)

Oh man it looks like you could rekt the royal navy then retreat, seems like a poor move by the allies. To be honest, at this point I'm rooting for an Allied come back!



wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (6/30/2017 2:13:53 PM)


Hi tog34 - we should have 2 more turns done tonight and I have re-thought my position and may take a run at the Royal Navy.

Regarding an Allied come back, I am sure many others feel the same way! Almost everyone wants to see a back and forth conflict because it is simply much more entertaining to follow. And while I can feel badly for my opponent, and I don't 😊 I have no intention of stepping off the accelerator.

Obviously you are not calling for this, but the one thing I've learned in my loooooooong history of boardgames and computer wargames is that no matter what the situation currently looks like, it can always change suddenly and dramatically (particularly in computer wargames with true fog of war).

Mark has built something he’s hiding somewhere in Russia that he intends to use to foil my plans. As I told Vonik, I haven’t been able to sniff it out yet, but something must be there as he had to utilize his MPPs.

If I can capture my primary 1941 objectives, Moscow and Leningrad, I will advance far enough to give the Axis Powers some breathing space and also to consolidate my gains. Then, in my 1942 offensive, I will advance in good order and good supply.

Trust me when I say that Mark in no way feels like he has lost the War yet, although he may have to treat me to my favorite pub based upon our little wager (he must win before 1944).

And remember that this is our first run as these powers – I have never played Germany and he never the Allies until this game, and we are not running parallel games.

So mistakes abound! I think this fact makes it more fun for everyone and, fortunately, neither Mark nor I embarrass easily 😊



wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (7/1/2017 11:18:54 AM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (7/1/2017 11:20:22 AM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (7/1/2017 11:21:16 AM)

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wie201 -> RE: Round Two - This Time Its Personal (7/1/2017 11:21:58 AM)

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