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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/2/2018 10:09:02 PM)

The next night was anti-climactic. My 4 DD TF got there, dropped some shells on the airfield, and headed for home. But, my shore bombardment can keep that airfield shut down until he brings up his CVs. Of course, that risks my surface ships since he'll see my surface TF coming and I won't see his CVs until it's too late so in the end he'll get his base here. But, delay delay delay!



Capt. Harlock -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/3/2018 4:28:56 AM)

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I did hear sinking sounds after the fight and the report said that the Chicago went down. I kind of doubt that given that it's a CA,


On the other hand, Chicago was one of the less well-armored of the American CA's. Interesting to see her in the same TF as Wichita, a decidedly more modern ship.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/3/2018 12:53:54 PM)

It was basically a bad couple of days for US CAs.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/5/2018 1:26:32 AM)

The bad news is that the Chicago did not go down after the surface fight. The good news is that the Chicago did go down after two torpedo hits. [:D]

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/5/2018 1:29:52 AM)

Time for the twice per month assault on Chungking. His losses get to be more each time, this time they're worth about 300 VP and I"m up to 2-1 with no forts left. My troops are slightly less disrupted so it may be one less day before the next all out attack. I do have the five tank regiments who did not attack. They are going to attack this turn but as deliberate and not as shock.

Barring some divine intervention it really is a matter of time for Chungking to go and when it does I'm going to get a whole lot of base VPs plus dead squad VPs.

I did lose a bunch of zeros over New Guinea and I really should just stop using them altogether.

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Capt. Harlock -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/6/2018 3:27:09 AM)

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Barring some divine intervention it really is a matter of time for Chungking to go and when it does I'm going to get a whole lot of base VPs plus dead squad VPs.


It looks to me as if you should already be getting a decent bag of VP's. 33 units destroyed?[X(]



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/6/2018 11:49:00 PM)

Each assault has killed 15-33 units and thus far I'm sure I've wracked up nearly 1,000 VP from my assaults on chungking. I'm not trying to farm VP points here, I'll be happy when the siege is over and I can move those troops elsewhere, but the Chinese army is going to help me avoid a VP defeat.




John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/6/2018 11:49:40 PM)

In sadder news, Scott did to me what I did to him and intercepted bombarding ships after they had shot off their shells. Two nice DDs went down. [:(] I'm pretty sure this is a war crime!

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FlyByKnight -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/7/2018 3:16:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: John B.

In sadder news, Scott did to me what I did to him and intercepted bombarding ships after they had shot off their shells. Two nice DDs went down. [:(] I'm pretty sure this is a war crime!



The proper phrasing in 'Wah crime!' as we've all learned from Cap Mandrake.
But at least the cruisers got out okay. And your guys crossed his T so it could've gone even worse.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/7/2018 11:45:11 AM)

[;)] The cruisers were untouched which was a nice result!



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/14/2018 4:41:06 PM)

Sorry for the delay. Been off at work and so has Scott,

The focus right now is on Manakowri. Despite my constant attempts at shore bombardment Scott has it at a Level 2 airbase which means I'm losing the battle here if he can keep that up and get to the point of basing bombers there. But, I do have a BB group on the way so we can hope that it can put a more serious hurt on the airfields. He manages to keep just enough fighters to keep me leery of sending in unescorted bombers so I may move zeros down there to at least give me a chance.

Lots of back and forth surface action as he keeps ships there to interfere with the bombardments. He even got PT boats up there. Not sure how that happened with a level one port unless they came up the coast

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/14/2018 4:42:59 PM)

Special shout out to the CA Maya. Although already damaged into the orange zone it fought its way through three surface action to put some shells onto the field. I have two new CAs coming so the Maya should be able to take a rest. But, Scott was too crafty with the last CA group that reinforced so it may not work out as I hope.



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GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/14/2018 5:56:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John B.
He even got PT boats up there. Not sure how that happened with a level one port unless they came up the coast

Manual 6.2.16 states you can creat PTs from Transport TF or from any port 1 with 10k+ supply



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/14/2018 9:17:01 PM)

Ah, well, he can't rearm them with torpedoes so they're sort of a one shot weapon.



GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/14/2018 11:55:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John B.
Ah, well, he can't rearm them with torpedoes so they're sort of a one shot weapon.

He can bring a suitable tender ship though



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 2:55:47 AM)

Always the negative waves GetAssista. Always the negative waves!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AEj3LA2vSo



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 2:58:04 AM)

Today's butcher's bill was two IJN DDs for an allied CL (Nashville) and an allied DD. I also damaged a couple of allied DDs. A VP point win for me this turn as we continue to grind it out. This time we have the ever faithful Maya TF and a BB TF with the Hiei heading in for their run at the airfield. Scott has been keeping me away, let's hope I get in this time as the KB is just two turns sail away from the outpost.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 2:09:33 PM)

It is a brutal knock down drag out fight at Manakowri! The Maya TF was intercepted by two allied DD's (arleigh burke in command because when you care you send the very best). It took a few hits and went back to Ternate.

But, the BB TF ran into the same group. Here's the first fight.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 2:10:25 PM)

The second fight. Bye bye allied DD (let's hope Arliegh was on board!)

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 2:12:51 PM)

There was a brief encounter with the Conway which ran away. And the Hiei TF ran into the allied PT TF. This time they all went down (GetAssista, kidding aside, I don't think he has a replenishment ship there since I've had the port under constant recon and so far no reports of ships at anchor).

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 2:13:54 PM)

Finally, having waded through three surface combats the Hiei and CA's got in shelling on the airfield and a pretty good result.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 2:15:56 PM)

But, the day was not over for our heroes. The Allied CL TF showed up. It looks like my ship commanders had been wise and not shot off all of their ammo. Given that it was day time for this combat allied fire control radar would not help them as much since there is basically no moon right now.

I have reason to believe that the Helena CL went down. It took a battering here.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 2:21:26 PM)

My ships are all afloat but it's like wading through molasses just to get ships into position to bombard the airfield. So far Scott has been taking more losses but I have lots and lots of ships damaged. Even here the Hiei will have to head back and the two CAs are barely in the green zone. I also wound up with three DD's heavily damaged.

Regarding the Helena the report was heavy fires and heavy damage. After the battle I heard sinking sounds and 5 Kingfishers were reported lost on the ground which is what those CLs carry. But, the Helena is not listed in the lost ship list yet. If it went down, the score this day was no losses to the IJN and one CL and one DD for the allies.
And, a good smacking for the airfield.

But, lots of damage to my ships.

In the plus column, the KB is just about two days sail away with the Yamato and Mushashi in two. If they can get in a shore bombardment it will be curtains for that airfield.

In the minus column, Scott is building up the Port in Hollandia that will allow him to rearm his ships much closer to the action and take away the advantage that Ternate gives to me.





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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 5:53:40 PM)

Everybody basically took the day off for the most recent turn. But, I was happy to see that the Hiei was able to reload at Ternate. And, the KB is one day closer.

In other news on other fronts, I'm sending in a shock attack at Chungking in the next turn. Scott's fort level is zero and he's been out of supply there for months (even with what his light industry can the 600+ bonus supply can get) so hopefully the shock will put me over 2-1 and really reduce his units there. I've got my armored regiments in reserve and they'll attack next turn to keep the pressure on.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 8:21:30 PM)

Question: How do you engineer a 6,000+ VP swing in one turn?

Answer: Destroy the Chinese army at Chungking! Holy Guacamole Batman, the 36,000 squads and devices destroyed give me 3,000 VP.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 8:22:59 PM)

Plus 2,400 VP for the city and Scott goes down 1,200 and the net result is north of 6,000 VP or way more than the entire IJN carrier fleet. [X(][X(]

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/15/2018 8:27:07 PM)

As you can see, I have a very nice VP advantage now and I'm close to 3-1. I don't think I can get over that hurdle. But, an interesting idea is to go and attack the Soviet Union. I have 38 infantry divisions with nothing to do and a bomber force with outstanding pilots but who really can't fly against the western allies.

In a couple of months I'd be in a position to cut the transiberian at several locations and isolate Vladivostok which should eventually fall to an overwhelming assault.

But, of course, I'd have to pay a lot of political points to move the restricted troops into Manchuria (nice problem to have, I realize) and I only have enough saved up to put three over right now which would probably give me 10 or so new divisions.

Also, can the western allies base in the soviet union? Would I just be giving them free naval bases next to the HI?



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GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/16/2018 6:10:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: John B.

As you can see, I have a very nice VP advantage now and I'm close to 3-1. I don't think I can get over that hurdle. But, an interesting idea is to go and attack the Soviet Union. I have 38 infantry divisions with nothing to do and a bomber force with outstanding pilots but who really can't fly against the western allies.

In a couple of months I'd be in a position to cut the transiberian at several locations and isolate Vladivostok which should eventually fall to an overwhelming assault.

But, of course, I'd have to pay a lot of political points to move the restricted troops into Manchuria (nice problem to have, I realize) and I only have enough saved up to put three over right now which would probably give me 10 or so new divisions.

Also, can the western allies base in the soviet union? Would I just be giving them free naval bases next to the HI?

Congratulations on bagging CK! Always a feat for Japan

I'm not sure if you have time left for the Soviet adventure. It is very demanding for material and time because you will be pushing against fortified positions with massed infantry and great arty. Vladivostok region cannot be stormed directly with so many troops in it and great defensive terrain, only starved out. And it is already May 43, Allied push in Burma is about to happen and Essexes start arriving. You would need those free divisions to man battlestations in your Burma/DEI/Kuriles/Pacific lines soon.
Allies cannot base aviation in Soviet bases or reload ships, and their LCUs cannot march on Soviet soil. But they can unload supply and employ those sub hordes.

Yeah, yeah, negative waves I know [:D] Such is war. Still rooting for Japan signing a peace treaty on favourable terms eventually



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/16/2018 1:42:37 PM)

Dawn breaks over Manakowri and offshore lurks the KB!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/16/2018 1:44:30 PM)

In the am strike, the CL St. Louis takes one bomb hit to a magazine and the St. Louis is no more! [X(] Lot's of other damage handed out but nothing too terrible. Take a look at CL Pheonix. 6 bomb hits and 1 torpedo.

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