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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (12/30/2018 8:28:20 PM)

It was an annoying turn. Not much really happened except that the BB went in to bombard and met PT boats that hit it with one torpedo and then it went down. [:@] And, my carrier planes did not raid the airfield at Butuan so it's in good shape. [:@][:@]

I sank a couple of PT boats and it appears like two DDs so I got that going for me. :) The KB is staying and going into shallow water as I have another BB TF working its way down from Manila. We'll see if the next turn brings better news.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (12/31/2018 1:21:01 PM)

Here is the update. Scott is spreading throughout Mindanao like a virus. The KB hammered his central land force and killed quite a number of tanks. But it now has to head back to port to refuel. It's going back to Manila where it will join 3 BBs, several CLs and a number of DDs. More importantly, I have a regiment loaded to hit the beach at Butuan. Recon only identifies on small unit there and it's not too far for me to get down there. If (fingers crossed) I can land there in three days I may be able to get there before the American KB shows up.

He has paratroop forces going after me in Davao and he'll take that in fairly short order. My main goal here is to prevent American naval forces from interdicting the oil route to the HI.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (12/31/2018 1:23:30 PM)

But, the Americans are now building up on the Celebes and at Makassar. He'll be flying fighter sweeps over Soerebaja pretty soon. I'll just have to see what I can do. I'm taking everything out of Palembang that I can get my hands on. I think that the IJN can really only stop one advance right now and the Philippines are more important than Java. We'll see how long this lasts. :)

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/1/2019 3:00:51 PM)

Not a great couple of turns but a disaster was avoided so I can't really complain. A US sub put 4 torpedoes into the Hiyo. And, luckily for me, one of them did not explode and the CV did not catch on fire. It's now disbanded at a base in the central Phillipines with 80 flotation damage but only 34 system and no engine damage (and many kudos for not sinking with three torpedo hits!!). It should be safe for a couple of turn and can make it to Manila. Scott also got an AP but it was able to make it to port and disgorge its cargo before it went down.

But, the Empire never won battles by crying about defeats.[:-] My latest plan is to launch a counter invasion at Surigao. Bombing by recon reveals on a Marine defense battalion there so if I can get some good shore bombardment and two turns of KB attacks they may just be pushed back and there does not seem to be much in Butuan so I can always switch the site to there.

The American CVs were spotted last turn and are gone this turn. They may have disbanded at Babledaob. We shall see.



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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/2/2019 12:36:48 AM)

Next turn. No sign of any allied ships except PT boats at Butuan. The landing is set for tomorrow at Surigao. I have a BB TF set to bombard the airfield next to Butuan as well as one set to bombard Surigao. The KB did a round of air strikes on the marine defense battalion that did some damage but not a whole lot.

The Razor has a CL TF in the Surigao strait to try to block any allied surface intervention.

Some unescorted SBDs flew after my AMC that has been trying to do mine sweeping operations and keeps getting chased away by the PT boats. 12 of them got shot down by KB air patrol.

Scott started bombing Light Industry in China. Typical war criminal. :)

News as it develops!



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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/2/2019 4:50:16 PM)

Well this annoying. Four separate shore bombardments and two strikes from the full KB and I could not even kill a squad. [8|]

My assault value took a real nose dive from one (-) but Scott's seemed to be ok despite having every possible (-) other than supply.

The worst part about this is you just know in your bones that this defense is going to lead to a spate of really bad WWII movies in the 1950s. Titles like "The Damned Don't Die" and "Destination Surigao!" You have been warned!! :)

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/2/2019 4:52:20 PM)

Feeling sorry for myself time is over.

The new plan. I'm shipping in a paratroop battalion from Batavia with both Emily squadrons flying them into Manila. It looks like Butuan is empty since Scott moved reinforcements into Surigao. So, next turn, paradrop on Butuan!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/5/2019 2:48:27 PM)

Fighting soldiers from the sky, fearless men who jump and die, men who mean just what they say, the brave men of the Yokusaka 1st Special Naval Landing Force!

The small fragment of my para boys went in and, as recon had reported, the base was empty and fell to their airborne assault. The haul was 14 PBYs, 5,000 supply points and a scuttled US sub. It also has the advantage of cutting Surigao off from resupply for now.

It was also a good turn in the air with the KB fighters taking down 13 PBY Liberators and an airstrike on Davao killing 14 or so transports. Scott's main airfield on Mindinao is now the one in the center and it's still at a level 1 so I'm not sure how many fighters he can effectively cram on there. The KB has it targeted for an airstrike this turn and then it will go back to Manila to resupply and escort that next amphib TF bound for Surigao and carrying a tank regiment.

Of course, the US navy is going to have something to say about this. The Subs have already taken two CVs out of action and I'm pretty sure his boats are swarming these seas. I did lay a minefield at Bataan that his sub has not yet hit but I got one at the mouth of Tokyo bay with a new minefield. Two reported mine strikes and sinking sounds.

There was an unnerving socuting report of American carriers but I could not find them. They are likely on their way back to the fight unless Scott is planning on sending them elsewhere.



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Bif1961 -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/5/2019 8:19:00 PM)

I think that Japanese song writer might have a case for copyright infringement.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/9/2019 11:19:20 PM)

Happy New Year everybody. 1944 dawns full of promise. I don't have a sense of foreboding at all! [:)]

Here is the current VP/PP total. I'm still more than 2-1 up on Scott so he's going to have a long road to hoe to not only catch up but to get up on me by 2-1. But, he is on the march. The longer I keep him away from the HI the better so there won't be the start bombing VP. My navy is still preserved and trying to keep open my windpipe from Palembang for as long as possible. He's basically taken Mindanao which hurts unless I can keep him busy there for awhile.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/9/2019 11:20:25 PM)

Some notes of historical interest. The A62M is the most destroyed plane. So many transport losses for him and 99% of them to ops. But, each one is a VP!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/9/2019 11:21:17 PM)

The list everyone cares about. I still have a big lead in dead carriers. I think he's only lost 3 and not 4 US CVs.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/9/2019 11:22:31 PM)

My current production screen with stockpiles. I honestly have no idea if this is good or bad. The KI84a Frank just showed up so I'm cranking up that production as quickly as possible!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/14/2019 10:58:46 AM)

There was a carrier battle over Mindanao with the KB north of the island and the American KB south of the island. Scott maneuvered me into a disadvantageous position (you know how crafty those occidentals can be) and had the advantage of some land based CAP. The long and short of is is that he basically wiped out the carrier aviation arm. The day before this picture I think I lost some 200 planes or so. It was very sad. [sm=sign0063.gif]. My carriers are not back and Manila where I'm cobbling together a new fleet air arm.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/14/2019 11:04:32 AM)

On a less dim note, my carriers have proved to be tough birds. Scott damaged the Akagi, Ryujo and Katsuragi but they are all back in Manila. Noted on this map are two damaged IJN CVs that have disbanded. Near Mindanao there is the Junyo which was badly damaged but can still go at 2/1. The game is actually three turns on and Scott did a port strike but the Junyo got away and now the question is can it get home through the allied sub gauntlet (my asw even in shallow water seems to be lacking in effectiveness). The northern CV was damaged by torpedoes at the start of the operation. It's at 85 flotation. I've moved some naval repair squadrons into it's port to help get it down to where it can make it to Manila.

So, the flattops are there and under repair (hey, a poem!) I just need to rebuild the planes. So, it could be worse especially for January 1944!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/14/2019 11:10:18 AM)

On a slightly brighter note, I did land my tanks and push the Americans out of Surigao. Net net it's not likely to be any significant VP gain but if Scott's not killing me at 2-1 I'm winning. I've also had a series of effective night bombing raids on his Mindinao bases. I've been getting 2-3 P-47s each evening which always makes me feel good. :)

My KB planes did not do any damage to his carriers but a brave group of DDs did engage them in surface action. Alas it was in the daytime so there was no close in torpedo work but the American CVS each took two shell hits. I lost 3 DDs but that's a gamble that can be worth taking and it helps to keep the fear of God in the Americans. That same turn one of my subs put a torpedo in the Hornet. No reports of major damage.

So, Scott is consolidating Mindanao which is close but not really able to choke off my raw materials route, especially given that my CVs are still around (makes sending out surface raiders more risky). Manila will be a tough nut for him to crack so the fight is ongoing!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/16/2019 10:49:53 PM)

It's probably helpful to be a glutton for punishment as the IJN in 1944. But, the latest intel has the American CVs east of Mindanao with surface TFs off of Samar. SO, if the KB moves to the hex with the x (not to be confused the vessel with the pestle that has the brew that is true) and limits it's airstrike range to 4 AND if my many land based fighters in Manila sweep over Samar AND if the betties, Jills, and Franceses in Manila pile on then MAYBE I can do some damage to his surface ships.

In the words of my dear departed friend Ruwe "what could possibly go wrong!"

(He made this statement during a game of circus maximus when he sent his chariot into a high speed turn which would flip only on an 18 rolled on three six sided dice. I don't need to tell you the result).[:)]



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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/17/2019 5:51:04 PM)

Well, things did not go as planned, but, I'm also pretty happy with the result. I think it may even count as a little bit of a Japanese victory. As you can see, Scott did not do what he was supposed to and moved his CVs back close to Samar. This resulted in another carrier battle.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/17/2019 5:53:09 PM)

Here are my ships after the exchange of air blows. Take the Akagi out of the equation as it was already damaged so it was not hit. You can see that Scott did negligible damage to the KB flat tops. Not pictured here was the BB which took two torpedo hits but is still able to make 4/2 speed and is not on fire so, barring something bad, it should be able to return to Manila.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/17/2019 5:54:34 PM)

And, in return, I did almost the same amount of damage to him. Two torpedo hits on BBs and a couple of bomb hits on his CVs. No one is out of the fight, but he'll have to send the BBs back to Pearl to fix any flotation damage.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/17/2019 5:58:27 PM)

Where I think that this turn went well was in the air. The USN actually lost more planes than I did! I looks like about 3 CVs worth of aircraft. My losses were heavy as well, but, this should take a couple of his CVs out of the fight until they can get replacements and I'm able to restock right away from Manila and from the squadrons on damaged CVs.

My forces are retiring to Manila and may be back out depending on what Scott does. the land based torpedo bombers did not launch from Manila (much to my irritation) and the fighter sweeps took some heavy losses since they're flying at extended range but still, a victory in a carrier air battle is always welcome if it can slow down the US even a little bit.

Oh, his PT boats did since a 10 VP DD near Samar for the loss of only three of their own. [8|]

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/17/2019 6:00:25 PM)

I am a bit curious about the air losses. The game total losses for sb2C-1C is 48 lost in air-to-air but this turn he is reported to have lost 52 in air-to-air. Does the game total not include the turn total? Or, is the game total more correct?



anarchyintheuk -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/17/2019 7:42:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: John B.

I am a bit curious about the air losses. The game total losses for sb2C-1C is 48 lost in air-to-air but this turn he is reported to have lost 52 in air-to-air. Does the game total not include the turn total? Or, is the game total more correct?


I usually go with the game totals. Can't say for certain. Excellent result for an IJN '44 CV battle.

Fond memories of Circus Maximus.



GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/17/2019 7:46:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: John B.
I am a bit curious about the air losses. The game total losses for sb2C-1C is 48 lost in air-to-air but this turn he is reported to have lost 52 in air-to-air. Does the game total not include the turn total? Or, is the game total more correct?

One of the few places in this game where FOW is inconsistent, getting the data from different channels. The other one I know is a reporting of your own sunk ships - the wrong name is often reported in the messages during the turn.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/17/2019 9:35:58 PM)

The game total is probably correct but I'm still happy with what it says!



tarkalak -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/18/2019 10:26:13 AM)

The reported enemy air losses could be inflated up to double the actual loss.

I remember seeing such a thing from both AARs of a single game and also in my own AI games.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/18/2019 12:46:39 PM)

Tarkalak,

I think you might be right. Here is the Japanese air loss screen from October 1944 in the last game I played with Scott (he was the Japanese and we exchanged passwords after the game so we could check out the other side).

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/18/2019 12:48:06 PM)

And here is the loss screen from the allied player for the same turn. Perhaps just a little inflation of air loss claims from over eager pilots. :) I assume that the Japanese numbers on the Japanese screen are correct and that the allied numbers on the allied screen are correct.



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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/18/2019 12:49:32 PM)

But, I'm still happy about the air battle this past turn in the current game. Scott may not have lost quite as many planes, but he still lost a whole bunch! It gladdens the heart of the Emperor!



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (1/19/2019 12:44:48 AM)

I'm not 100% sure but I think my subs just sank an american BB with just two torpedos. One of the hits registered critcial damage, then there were sinking sounds, and finally, there were 4 float planes listed as destroyed. If that's the case then BANZAI!!

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