RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A)

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Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 12:35:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum China: Kashgar - Almost 100 4e 'beasties' bomb troop when weather permits. What an absolute waste of a mission.

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 12:39:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 137287 troops, 1378 guns, 974 vehicles, Assault Value = 4365 Defending force 533484 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15056 Japanese adjusted assault: 2318 Allied adjusted defense: 3389 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3522 casualties reported Squads: 19 destroyed, 619 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled Guns lost 31 (2 destroyed, 29 disabled) Allied ground losses: 68485 casualties reported Squads: 2359 destroyed, 413 disabled Non Combat: 1955 destroyed, 175 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 27 (25 destroyed, 2 disabled) Units destroyed 14 Most of the divisions have around 30 plus squads disabled, but with high disruption and fatigue across them all. They are divided, but the worst two are ordered to march 2 hexes for R&R while fresh troops march here. No fort reduction. I thought that would happen. No fort reduction is poor luck, but not detrimental. Chungking can only take 8-10 more attacks like that spread out over about 5 days.

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 12:43:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum Notes: A7M3 Sam to 5/45 C6N1 Myrt to 7/44 Ki-43-IV Oscar to 8/45 N1K5-J George to 6/44 I though Sam in this mod was accelerated to a 2/45 start? I think at this point the Oscar IV needs only minimal r&d if you have engine bonus. Better off putting those facilities into the Ki94II, Shinden, Ki83, or even Karyu. Perhaps a dedicated kamikaze if you have those bases covered.

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 12:47:01 PM)
A7M2 Sam will start production in 1/44.

Mike Solli -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 12:57:01 PM)
Michael, was that your first deliberate assault on Chungking? Also, how long have you been bombarding it with artillery? I finally did my first bombardment there. The AV is about the same for my game. Just wondering how long to bombard before trying an assault.

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 1:13:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mike Solli Michael, was that your first deliberate assault on Chungking? Also, how long have you been bombarding it with artillery? I finally did my first bombardment there. The AV is about the same for my game. Just wondering how long to bombard before trying an assault. Mike, you can't compare results, this game has stacking limits, and yours doesn't.

PaxMondo -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 1:14:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum I'm a long way from having to use kamikazes, but I need to do something at some point. Michael Always another tough decision. I would solicit thoughts here and then sit back. A lot of it stems from how you will plan to use them. I'll provide you just a teaser here of how difficult this is: Kate - packs a good punch, has great range (relatively as a kami, 7 is good), but is painfully slow. Toka/Tsurugi - packs a good punch, but the range is only 5, however, great speed. I'm not suggesting you won't have both, you likely will. BUT, where do you focus? This is just one small part of your decision tree, you can do this for another 6 or 7 model 'pairs'. I honestly don't believe there is a best choice here, BUT I do believe that for each player in a specific game, there is a best choice. Make sense?

PaxMondo -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 1:18:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum Notes: Screen shot shows two things. Current position of KB and what warships are due upgrades in Dec 43. The 4 CAs are leaving Port Hedland for Soerabaja. I'm thinking since it will take some time to rebuild my shattered DB & TB groups to send these ships up to Japan for upgrades (25 days). So KB would be weakened until late Jan 44. I have another large group due upgrades in Apr 44. Painful as it is, you gotta do those upgrades ... at least in stock. If this is like stock, then the AA and radar upgrades are well worth the month of down time. Actually, it isn't painful to do the upgrades, just suspense laden. If the ships are upgrading safely, you know they won't be sunk![;)] Well, yes you are right. But the pain is when you need the KB (or whatever ship is in drydock upgrade) and you can't have it .... that's against the unthinking AI ... against a player who might know your upgrade timing ... as the allies it would mean a 'free' amphib op or maybe two ... i know the KB won't oppose me, so the defense optins are limited and I can load up for them.

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 1:28:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum I'm a long way from having to use kamikazes, but I need to do something at some point. Michael Always another tough decision. I would solicit thoughts here and then sit back. A lot of it stems from how you will plan to use them. I'll provide you just a teaser here of how difficult this is: Kate - packs a good punch, has great range (relatively as a kami, 7 is good), but is painfully slow. Toka/Tsurugi - packs a good punch, but the range is only 5, however, great speed. I'm not suggesting you won't have both, you likely will. BUT, where do you focus? This is just one small part of your decision tree, you can do this for another 6 or 7 model 'pairs'. I honestly don't believe there is a best choice here, BUT I do believe that for each player in a specific game, there is a best choice. Make sense? If you want to attack at over 360mph you have only three bomber choices. Somebody used Recon planes (njp?) to good effect. Fighters and Fighter bomber squadrons are needed for other duty. Kami attacks are almost always land based, subject to fracturing, and a horde of slow planes I think is almost always VP for the Allies. In fact, can you name me one recent JFB that has done well with kamikazes?

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 2:01:10 PM)
R&D A7M2 Sam......1/44...2 x 90 A7M3 Sam......5/45...6 x 30 A7M3-J Sam....2/45...1 x 16(14) B6N2a Jill....4/44...2 x 30 B7A2 Grace....8/44...2 x 30 C6N1 Myrt.....7/44...1 x 15 C6N1-S Myrt...5/45...1 x 15 D4Y4 Judy.....4/44...3 x 30 E16A1 Paul....1/44...1 x 15 G4M1-L Betty..4/44...1 x 15 G8N1 Rita.....11/44..1 x 8(7) J6M1..........9/45...2 x 30(30) J7W1 Shinden..12/45..6 x 112(98) Ki-100-I Tony....9/44...1 x 30 Ki-102a Randy....2/45...1 x 30 Ki-102c Randy....9/45...3 x 49(41) Ki-115a Tsurugi..6/45...2 x 50(11) Ki-43-IV Oscar...8/45...2 x 30 Ki-46-III KAIb Dinah...8/44...1 x 30 Ki-61-II KAIb Tony.....4/44...2 x 30 Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy.....5/44...3 x 30 Ki-83.........9/45...4 x 67(53) Ki-84b Frank..5/44...4 x 30 Ki-84r Frank..11/45..2 x 30 Ki-94-II......2/46...2 x 22(38) Kikka.........1/46...1 x 8(7) N1K5-J George.6/44...5 x 30 P1Y2 Frances..3/44...4 x 30 P1y2-S Frances.11/44..1 x 15 Toka..........12/45..2 x 36(24) What changes would you suggest? What do I change some of the end of the line models to??

PaxMondo -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/25/2018 5:57:40 PM)
Michael, Again, take this with a grain of salt because I don't think there is a magic formula, but here are a few thoughts. Remember, I am not expert on this mod, so my comments relate to stock. Toka: the IJN version of the Ki-115 Tsurugi. I would not build it. Why? You have 3 IJN models that are far better and already in production: Jill/Judy/Grace. All are about the same speed as the Toka, same load, etc. Tsurugi: This can be a good choice to use the existing Ha-35 capacity. These can also be effective at high fort bases, those 800kg bombs actually do damage. The 5 range is the issue. C6N-S: For me, this is the best of a lot of lousy IJN NF's. I say lousy as none have armor, so losses are high. This one at least is 1E, so all the A2A losses against the b-29's hurt only half as much. Randy NF: It looks like you will still be in the game when this arrives, so sit back and enjoy watching this one work. Your losses will fall in half due to the armor, and the allied losses will double due to it armaments.

Bif1961 -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/26/2018 12:57:39 AM)
so are you shooting for a 1943 auto victory? you're about 5,000 points short and maybe the continued losses in Chungking will push your over and especially if you can capture it before the end of 43!

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/26/2018 1:05:50 AM)
Already had the AI grant me auto victory earlier in '43. I'm going until Japan is forced to surrender.

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/26/2018 12:51:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo Toka: the IJN version of the Ki-115 Tsurugi. I would not build it. Why? You have 3 IJN models that are far better and already in production: Jill/Judy/Grace. All are about the same speed as the Toka, same load, etc. In this mod, I think the Toka is a 385 mph screamer, significantly better than Judy 4. it is the ijn version of the Ki115b. A solid choice. Given recent games, I don't think the Frank B is worth it or the Sam J. The Grace is light, but you have that base covered with Judy/Jill. Frances S is the best NF in the game--Myrt is probably 2nd best. Randy's radar doesn't ever come into play unless modded. You are going to make it late, so personally it would be interesting to see what the Kikka can do.

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/26/2018 2:23:49 PM)
I told Brian that we may actually see CVB Midway in action. How many TT hits would that beast take b4 being sunk?? 6 plus?

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/28/2018 12:56:30 AM)
Thanks for the feedback on what planes to focus on in '44 and beyond.

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (2/28/2018 1:08:11 AM)
43 Dec 8 thru 11: back to just China.... China: Kashgar - Allied heavy bombers from India fly over the mountains to bomb my troops here. Yawn!! [:D] Chungking - Severe storms limit my Helens building up their experience on his AF. Four days of ground bombardments. Here is what occurred on 11th... quote: Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 4806 troops, 307 guns, 394 vehicles, Assault Value = 4332 Defending force 476646 troops, 94 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12480 Allied ground losses: 2692 casualties reported Squads: 125 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Notes: Ki-69-Ia (T) Peggy to 4/44 P1Y2 Frances to 2/44 A7M3 Sam to 4/45 Ki-84b Frank to 4/44 B6N2a Jill to 3/44 Kaigun - Either in Japan for upgrades or taking on fuel at Truk. In next few days, she will be ready again, but just need for airgroups to finish up some more rest (lower airframe fatigue) before restarting training again for KB.

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/3/2018 11:31:28 AM)
43 Dec 12 thru 15: Yes readers, its just China and logistics right now. With John 3rd vs Canoerebel ending, the most exciting AAR is Lowpe vs Obvert. I wish I could report something happening here, but no joy. Subs: Triton is hit by ASW TF 2 west of Tabiteuea. I'm making my ASW TFs into 3 ship TF with 2 "E" and a DD. China: Kashgar - Bombed by Allies for first three days. Chungking - Weather ruled most days, so my Helens were grounded. However, I have plenty of artillery to ground bombard as my Infantry Divisions (ID) continue to recover disruption and fatigue. Here is the result for the 20th. I'm reducing his raw AV by about 100 each day. quote: Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 17491 troops, 414 guns, 433 vehicles, Assault Value = 4445 Defending force 467836 troops, 88 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12028 Allied ground losses: 1285 casualties reported Squads: 123 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Notes: KB (those ships not in Japan for upgrades) is now back at Kusaie Island. Ki-61-II KAIb Tony to 3/44

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/3/2018 12:03:51 PM)
43 Dec 16 thru 19: Another 4 days worth of mostly China Subs: SS Tautog is 2 SWW of Eniwetok on morning of 19th. My two G.6 CVs and a few other warships due 1/44 upgrades heading for Japan run over her. Thankfully, ALL 6 TT miss CV Kushiro... <gulp> [&o] China: Kushgar - No Allied bombers for four days. Hong Kong - Lots of troops from greater Chungking area are here or marching the last few hexes for redeployment. India and Java/Sumatra get most. Lots of xAPs and Toho Class xAK (t) coming and going. Chungking - My 190 plus Helens find weather get better and better. Only 1 of 10 ID have any fatigue or disruption left. I'll plan on deliberate attacks twice per month now. Here are results for 19th... quote: Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 71349 troops, 850 guns, 561 vehicles, Assault Value = 4460 Defending force 460521 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11625 Allied ground losses: 2811 casualties reported Squads: 153 destroyed, 11 disabled Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled CenPac: Nonouti (1 NW of Tabiteuea) - I start ground attack by 20 Jill and 25 George on 19th. There is a fragment of 24th ID here (rest on Tabiteuea). Troops at Truk almost prepped to retake. A strong SC TF at Kusaie with 4 CA, 2 CLAA, and 9 DDs get ready to bombard it. Counter invasion in about two weeks. Notes: N1K5-J George to 5/44 A7M3 Sam to 3/45 Japan - Nagaoka has AF 8 and Niigata has AF 4. I'm building up bases to forts 4 and AF to either 8 or max in western half first. I have 10 construction type units assigned to these two bases.

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/4/2018 12:23:15 PM)
43 Dec 20 thru 24: No longer boring....Death Star reappears off Tabiteuea!! Subs: 23rd - Gudgeon is run over by part of KB and later the Combat Replay announces "enemy carriers." Bugger!! CVs: 20th - TF shows up 3 NE of Baker Island. Looks like transports, but turns out it's not. 21st - Three TFs are now 6 east of Tabiteuea = 329F, 202B, 23Aux & 116F, 37B, 18Aux, & SC TF 22nd - DS is now 2 NE of Tabiteuea 23rd - See screen shot for positions of KB & DS Aleutians: Sitkinak - I have a group of Frank and George sweep on 22nd with mixed results. quote: Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-84a Frank x 27 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 25 F6F-3 Hellcat x 36 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 10 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 29000 feet CAP engaged: VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes 343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 34550. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 9 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 18 F6F-3 Hellcat x 20 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed CAP engaged: VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 20 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes 343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-84a Frank x 9 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 16 F6F-3 Hellcat x 16 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed No Allied losses CAP engaged: VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27530. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes 343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 30 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 10 F6F-3 Hellcat x 12 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 23 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 29000 feet CAP engaged: VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 34000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes Losses are 19F, 14G vs 17HC, 9P-38 China: Chungking - My second attack occurs on 22nd... quote: Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 139693 troops, 1383 guns, 1050 vehicles, Assault Value = 4457 Defending force 452410 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11255 Japanese adjusted assault: 2092 Allied adjusted defense: 3277 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 13790 casualties reported Squads: 34 destroyed, 1571 disabled Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 142 disabled Engineers: 36 destroyed, 209 disabled Guns lost 134 (2 destroyed, 132 disabled) Vehicles lost 36 (7 destroyed, 29 disabled) Allied ground losses: 22090 casualties reported Squads: 1185 destroyed, 505 disabled Non Combat: 1158 destroyed, 189 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled) Units destroyed 21 All the division are divided and once they recover, I'll do it again. CenPac: Nonouti - 20 Jill & 25 George attack his troops on 20th. Tabiteuea - busy day on the 23rd as Amphib TF and BB TF hit base. quote: Night Naval bombardment of Tabiteuea at 137,134 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses H8K1 Emily: 15 damaged H8K1 Emily: 2 destroyed on ground N1K1-J George: 18 damaged N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed on ground A6M3b Zero: 25 damaged A6M3b Zero: 1 destroyed on ground 50 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BB Alabama BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1 BB Indiana CA Rome CA Wichita CA Astoria CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 3 CA Northampton CA Indianapolis CL Mobile CL Birmingham CL Richmond Japanese ground losses: 720 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 24 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 25 Port hits 3 Port supply hits 2 quote: Pre-Invasion action off Tabiteuea (137,134) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 299 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BB Pennsylvania BB Arizona, Shell hits 1 CL Jeanne d'Arc, Shell hits 3, on fire CL Cleveland CL Boise CLAA Prince Robert DD Gansevoort DD Frazier DD Laffey AP Gen. T.H.Bliss, Shell hits 3 CVE Tangier AMC Victor Schoelcher DD Gillespie Japanese ground losses: 361 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Allied ground losses: 80 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled BB Pennsylvania firing at 46th Division 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at BB Arizona BB Arizona firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment CL Jeanne d'Arc firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CL Jeanne d'Arc CL Cleveland firing at 46th Division CL Boise firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CL Boise CLAA Prince Robert firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CLAA Prince Robert 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at DD Gansevoort DD Gansevoort firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment DD Frazier firing at 43rd Division DD Laffey firing at 43rd Division 15cm 41YT CD Gun Battery engaging AP Gen. T.H.Bliss at 12,000 yards CVE Tangier firing to suppress enemy battery at 12,000 yards DD Gansevoort fired at enemy troops DD Frazier fired at enemy troops DD Laffey fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Tabiteuea (137,134) TF 343 troops unloading over beach at Tabiteuea, 137,134 Allied ground losses: 328 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 54 disabled Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 106 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 27 (2 destroyed, 25 disabled) Vehicles lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled) 14 troops of a USMC 43 Rifle Squad accidentally lost during unload of 1st Marine Div /2 81mm M1 Mortar accidentally lost during unload of 22nd Marine Rgt 12 troops of a M1917 MMG Section lost from landing craft during unload of 33rd Infantry Div /1 20mm Mk4 Oerlikon lost overboard during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force 15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force /7 15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 33rd Infantry Div /5 15 Naval Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force /8 15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 22nd Marine Rgt /5 15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 1st Marine Div /7 quote: Ground combat at Tabiteuea (137,134) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 76321 troops, 1329 guns, 957 vehicles, Assault Value = 2642 Defending force 35810 troops, 286 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 923 Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5 Allied adjusted assault: 858 Japanese adjusted defense: 696 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5 Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 1749 casualties reported Squads: 27 destroyed, 145 disabled Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 55 disabled Engineers: 11 destroyed, 68 disabled Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled) Vehicles lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Allied ground losses: 8601 casualties reported Squads: 612 destroyed, 305 disabled Non Combat: 206 destroyed, 132 disabled Engineers: 202 destroyed, 45 disabled Guns lost 168 (114 destroyed, 54 disabled) Vehicles lost 282 (169 destroyed, 113 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 25th Infantry Division 34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 1st Marine Div /8 3rd Marine Division 767th Tank Battalion 147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 763rd Tank Battalion 1st USMC Tank Battalion 112th Cavalry Regiment 24th Infantry Division 22nd Marine Regiment 33rd Infantry Div /9 225th Field Artillery Battalion 55th Coastal Artillery Battalion 1st Fleet Advn Base Force 3/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 1st Pioneer Battalion 1st US Naval Construction Battalion 46th US Naval Construction Battalion 1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 1/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion 42nd MAG 21st Base Group 249th Field Artillery Battalion 12th Marine Defense Battalion 15th Marine Defense Battalion 7th USN Naval Construction Regiment Defending units: 7th Indpt SNLF Coy 46th Division 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment 43rd Division 3rd Naval Pioneer Battalion 2nd JNAF AF Unit 12th Air Flotilla 5th Naval Construction Battalion 16th JNAF AF Unit SL is ONLY 40k and he is way, way over!! I hope he learns how to conduct invasions real soon. <wink> [:-] Notes: D4Y4 Judy to 3/44 Screen shot - I've removed Judy & Jill from two of my Shokaku-kai CVs and added 2 x 45 plane George groups. Going fighter heavy as I've ordered my Judy & Jill to stand down. Plans are to move down to off Ocean Is. next turn, if still present, I'll order 2 x SC TF to Full Spd to hit his TFs at Tabiteuea. The turn after will be KB moving in provide LRCAP over a third SC TF formed from KBs screen. The four Kongos with DDs are now two days north of Truk after finishing upgrades. I have 6 CV and 3 CVL less than 10 days until upgrades completed at Yokohama. Once they join KB in month, I'll go after DS. [image]local://upfiles/15133/65B703F383F845E3913E502E72AA1534.jpg[/image]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/4/2018 9:27:58 PM)
43 Dec 24 & 25: The "Battle of Tabiteuea" and surround waters continues... [sm=00000055.gif] Subs: [>:] CV: 24th - DS remains 1 NE of Tabiteuea. 3 SC TFs with KB are ordered in...2 to Tabby and one at DS 25th - DS and CVEs are retreating, but....[sm=00000028.gif] China: Chungking - About 190 Helens daily followed by ground bb as IDs recover. CenPac: Tabiteuea - Action and more action. 24th - quote: Night Naval bombardment of Tabiteuea at 137,134 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses H8K1 Emily: 26 damaged N1K1-J George: 32 damaged N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed on ground A6M3b Zero: 16 damaged A6M3b Zero: 4 destroyed on ground 39 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BB Alabama, Shell hits 2 BB Massachusetts BB Indiana CA Rome CA Wichita CA Astoria CA Salt Lake City CA Northampton CA Indianapolis CL Mobile CL Birmingham CL Richmond DD Clark DD Daly DD Cotten DD Cony DD Conway DD Converse DD Conner DD Claxton DD Chevalier DD Chauncey DD Charrette DD Bush DD Burns Japanese ground losses: 219 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 15 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 17 Port hits 5 Port supply hits 1 I hope they stay for just one more day as they have been doing this for two days and should be out of ammo. quote: Ground combat at Tabiteuea (137,134) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 64661 troops, 1240 guns, 820 vehicles, Assault Value = 1716 Defending force 32994 troops, 285 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 760 Allied adjusted assault: 493 Japanese adjusted defense: 614 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5) Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 2881 casualties reported Squads: 17 destroyed, 119 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 26 disabled Guns lost 58 (3 destroyed, 55 disabled) Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled) Allied ground losses: 8828 casualties reported Squads: 316 destroyed, 132 disabled Non Combat: 132 destroyed, 41 disabled Engineers: 114 destroyed, 18 disabled Guns lost 141 (94 destroyed, 47 disabled) Vehicles lost 113 (90 destroyed, 23 disabled) Units destroyed 3 Overstacking gives you results like this! 25th- A nice night with 0% moonlight!! [:)] quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Tabiteuea at 137,134, Range 10,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Takao CA Atago CA Maya CA Chokai CLAA Tenryu CLAA Tatsuta DD Asashio DD Oshio DD Michishio DD Minegumo DD Asagumo DD Asagiri DD Sagiri DD Yugiri DD Ushio Allied Ships DE Gilmore, Shell hits 8, and is sunk DE Griswold, Shell hits 5, and is sunk DE William C. Miller, Shell hits 2, and is sunk DE Seid, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AK Triangulum, Shell hits 26, and is sunk AK Ganymede, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk AK Bootes, Shell hits 25, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk LST-463, Shell hits 15, and is sunk LST-464, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LST-465, Shell hits 20, and is sunk LST-466, Shell hits 15, and is sunk LST-467, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LST-468, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LST-469, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk LST-470, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LST-471, Shell hits 13, and is sunk LST-472, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LST-476, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk LST-477, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk LST-478, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk LST-479, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LST-480, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk LST-481, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LST-482, Shell hits 10, and is sunk LST-483, Shell hits 12, and is sunk LST-484, Shell hits 5, and is sunk Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching! Allied TF begins to get underway Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 12,000 yards Range closes to 25,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 25,000 yards Range closes to 20,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards Range closes to 15,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 15,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 10,000 yards LST-472 sunk by CA Chokai at 10,000 yards DE William C. Miller sunk by CA Chokai at 10,000 yards CA Chokai engages DE Griswold at 10,000 yards CLAA Tatsuta engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards CLAA Tatsuta engages AK Triangulum at 10,000 yards DD Sagiri engages LST-483 at 10,000 yards DD Asagiri engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards LST-481 sunk by DD Sagiri at 10,000 yards DD Sagiri engages LST-480 at 10,000 yards DD Michishio engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards DD Michishio engages LST-477 at 10,000 yards DD Asagiri engages LST-470 at 10,000 yards DD Asagiri engages LST-463 at 10,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards CLAA Tatsuta engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards CA Maya engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards DD Yugiri engages AK Ganymede at 7,000 yards DD Yugiri engages AK Triangulum at 7,000 yards DD Asagiri engages LST-483 at 7,000 yards DD Sagiri engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards DD Asagiri engages LST-480 at 7,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards DE Seid sunk by DD Asashio at 7,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards CLAA Tenryu engages DE Griswold at 5,000 yards CA Takao engages AK Triangulum at 5,000 yards CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-483 at 5,000 yards DD Asagumo engages LST-484 at 5,000 yards LST-480 sunk by DD Ushio at 5,000 yards DD Yugiri engages AK Triangulum at 5,000 yards LST-478 sunk by DD Asagiri at 5,000 yards LST-477 sunk by DD Asashio at 5,000 yards DD Michishio engages LST-483 at 5,000 yards DD Asashio engages LST-470 at 5,000 yards DD Michishio engages LST-464 at 5,000 yards Range closes to 3,000 yards CA Chokai engages DE Griswold at 3,000 yards CA Takao engages DE Gilmore at 3,000 yards DD Yugiri engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards DE Griswold sunk by CA Takao at 3,000 yards DD Asagiri engages AK Triangulum at 3,000 yards DD Yugiri engages AK Ganymede at 3,000 yards DD Asagumo engages LST-479 at 3,000 yards DD Asagiri engages LST-463 at 3,000 yards AK Ganymede sunk by DD Asagumo at 3,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AK Triangulum at 3,000 yards DD Sagiri engages LST-469 at 3,000 yards DD Minegumo engages LST-468 at 3,000 yards LST-470 sunk by DD Asashio at 3,000 yards DD Minegumo engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards DD Yugiri engages LST-464 at 3,000 yards CA Chokai engages LST-463 at 3,000 yards DD Asagumo engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards AK Triangulum sunk by CA Atago at 3,000 yards LST-483 sunk by CLAA Tatsuta at 3,000 yards CLAA Tenryu engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards LST-469 sunk by DD Ushio at 3,000 yards DD Sagiri engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards DD Oshio engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards LST-464 sunk by DD Asagumo at 3,000 yards LST-463 sunk by DD Yugiri at 3,000 yards CA Maya engages DE Gilmore at 3,000 yards Massive explosion on LST-466 CA Maya engages LST-466 at 3,000 yards AK Bootes sunk by CA Atago at 3,000 yards LST-476 sunk by CA Takao at 3,000 yards CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-466 at 3,000 yards DD Ushio engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards LST-479 sunk by DD Sagiri at 3,000 yards LST-466 sunk by DD Yugiri at 3,000 yards Range increases to 4,000 yards CA Takao engages DE Gilmore at 4,000 yards CA Maya engages DE Gilmore at 4,000 yards DD Michishio engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards DE Gilmore sunk by CLAA Tenryu at 4,000 yards LST-465 sunk by DD Asagiri at 4,000 yards DD Asagiri engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards CLAA Tatsuta collides with DD Yugiri at 137 , 134 LST-484 sunk by CA Chokai at 4,000 yards DD Yugiri engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards DD Asagumo engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards LST-467 sunk by DD Sagiri at 4,000 yards DD Asashio engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards DD Oshio engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards LST-468 sunk by DD Asagumo at 4,000 yards CA Chokai engages LST-482 at 4,000 yards CA Maya engages LST-482 at 4,000 yards LST-482 sunk by CA Takao at 4,000 yards DD Asagiri engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards Range increases to 5,000 yards CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-471 at 5,000 yards Range increases to 6,000 yards DD Sagiri engages LST-471 at 6,000 yards CA Chokai engages LST-471 at 6,000 yards LST-471 sunk by CA Chokai at 6,000 yards LST-471 sunk by CA Chokai at 6,000 yards Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk BANZAI!! BANZAI!!... quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Tabiteuea at 137,133, Range 10,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 26 destroyed SBD-5 Dauntless: 21 destroyed F4F-7 Wildcat: 3 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 11 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Myoko CA Haguro, Shell hits 2 CA Nachi, Shell hits 8, on fire CA Ashigara CA Seiki CA Chishima, Shell hits 2 CA Miyako, Shell hits 1 CA Yoshino, Shell hits 1 DD Takanami DD Naganami DD Suzunami DD Fujinami DD Yugure DD Ariake DD Kayobuki, Shell hits 1 DD Mazabuki, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage [SUNK] Allied Ships CV Lexington, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk CV Bunker Hill CV Intrepid CV Crown Point CVL Princeton CVL Monterey CVL Varennes, Shell hits 1 CVL Chateau Thierry, Shell hits 2 CVL Jacksonville CA Baltimore CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 1 CLAA Juneau, Shell hits 2, on fire CLAA San Diego, Shell hits 1 CLAA Oakland CL Denver, Shell hits 6, on fire CL Santa Fe, Shell hits 1 DD Fletcher DD Abbot DD Ammen DD Aulick, Shell hits 1 DD Charles Ausburne DD Boyd DD Bradford DD Braine DD Brownson, Shell hits 1 Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range closes to 25,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 25,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 25,000 yards Range closes to 20,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 20,000 yards Range closes to 15,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 15,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 15,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 10,000 yards Kiyota, Takahiko* crosses the 'T' CA Yoshino engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards CA Miyako engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards CA Seiki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards CA Yoshino engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 10,000 yards CA Nachi engages CVL Varennes at 10,000 yards CA Myoko engages CVL Monterey at 10,000 yards DD Mazabuki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards DD Kayobuki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards CA Nachi engages CL Santa Fe at 10,000 yards CL Denver engages CA Nachi at 10,000 yards CA Nachi engages CLAA Oakland at 10,000 yards CLAA San Diego engages CA Nachi at 10,000 yards DD Takanami engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards CA Yoshino engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards CA Nachi engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards CA Nachi engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 7,000 yards CA Haguro engages CVL Varennes at 7,000 yards CA Myoko engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards DD Mazabuki engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards CA Nachi engages CA Baltimore at 7,000 yards CL Santa Fe engages CA Nachi at 7,000 yards CL Denver engages CA Nachi at 7,000 yards DD Fujinami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards CA Nachi engages CLAA San Diego at 7,000 yards CA Haguro engages CLAA Juneau at 7,000 yards DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards DD Brownson engages DD Takanami at 7,000 yards DD Takanami engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards DD Fletcher engages DD Mazabuki at 7,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards DD Bradford collides with CL Denver at 137 , 133 CA Yoshino engages CL Santa Fe at 5,000 yards CA Miyako engages CV Lexington at 5,000 yards Ammo storage explosion on CV Lexington CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 5,000 yards CV Lexington sunk by CA Seiki at 5,000 yards CA Nachi engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 5,000 yards CA Nachi engages CVL Varennes at 5,000 yards CA Nachi engages CVL Monterey at 5,000 yards DD Mazabuki engages DD Brownson at 5,000 yards CA Baltimore engages CA Nachi at 5,000 yards CA Nachi engages CL Santa Fe at 5,000 yards DD Brownson engages DD Yugure at 5,000 yards DD Brownson engages DD Fujinami at 5,000 yards DD Suzunami engages DD Fletcher at 5,000 yards DD Naganami engages DD Brownson at 5,000 yards CA Nachi engages CLAA Atlanta at 5,000 yards DD Mazabuki engages DD Braine at 5,000 yards Range closes to 4,000 yards CA Ashigara collides with DD Mazabuki at 137 , 133 CV Crown Point collides with CLAA San Diego at 137 , 133 CA Yoshino engages CLAA San Diego at 4,000 yards CA Miyako engages CLAA San Diego at 4,000 yards CA Chishima engages CV Bunker Hill at 4,000 yards DD Mazabuki engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 4,000 yards CA Nachi engages CL Denver at 4,000 yards CLAA Oakland engages CA Haguro at 4,000 yards CA Myoko engages CVL Princeton at 4,000 yards DD Brownson engages DD Mazabuki at 4,000 yards DD Kayobuki engages DD Fletcher at 4,000 yards CA Seiki engages CL Denver at 4,000 yards CLAA Oakland engages DD Yugure at 4,000 yards DD Fujinami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards CLAA Juneau engages CA Haguro at 4,000 yards DD Naganami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards DD Kayobuki engages DD Aulick at 4,000 yards Range increases to 7,000 yards DD Suzunami engages CV Crown Point at 7,000 yards CA Miyako engages CL Denver at 7,000 yards CA Chishima engages CLAA Atlanta at 7,000 yards DD Mazabuki engages CVL Jacksonville at 7,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Santa Fe at 7,000 yards DD Kayobuki engages CVL Varennes at 7,000 yards CA Myoko engages CLAA Oakland at 7,000 yards CA Nachi engages CA Baltimore at 7,000 yards DD Kayobuki engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Denver at 7,000 yards DD Charles Ausburne engages DD Yugure at 7,000 yards CA Nachi engages CLAA San Diego at 7,000 yards CA Nachi engages CLAA Juneau at 7,000 yards DD Naganami engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards DD Mazabuki engages DD Braine at 7,000 yards DD Mazabuki engages DD Aulick at 7,000 yards DD Abbot engages DD Naganami at 7,000 yards Allied Task Force Manages to Escape Task forces break off... India Ocean: Diego Garcia is invaded on 25th and falls. [:(] quote: Ground combat at Diego Garcia (11,62) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 17135 troops, 350 guns, 814 vehicles, Assault Value = 729 Defending force 5312 troops, 95 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 161 Allied adjusted assault: 251 Japanese adjusted defense: 8 Allied assault odds: 31 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied forces CAPTURE Diego Garcia !!! Combat modifiers Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 1243 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 115 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 56 (18 destroyed, 38 disabled) Vehicles lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled) Allied ground losses: 152 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled) Assaulting units: 13th Armoured Div /28 81st (West African) Div /10 18th Marine Defense Battalion 19th USN Naval Construction Regiment Defending units: 2nd Maizuru Assault Division Notes: Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy to 3/44 In hindsight, my SC TF with 3 fast BBs should have gone to his CV TF, rather than Tabiteuea and end up hitting a mine. KB will head east to see if I can get lucky while my 3 x SC TF head back to port [image]local://upfiles/15133/8C5322E9962645EF937EC35146A74686.jpg[/image]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/6/2018 1:35:38 AM)
Brian is in the process of surrendering to the Japanese Empire. Banzai!! [:)] I've opened a new thread in "Opponents Wanted" to find an Allied replacement player.

obvert -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/8/2018 9:30:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum Brian is in the process of surrendering to the Japanese Empire. Banzai!! [:)] I've opened a new thread in "Opponents Wanted" to find an Allied replacement player. Did you find someone to continue?

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/8/2018 10:57:49 AM)
I've gotten one PM and three others posting some interest. No one has contacted Brian yet for files and PW as I got an email from him last night. I really want a chance to sink CVB Midway. [:D]

obvert -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/8/2018 11:25:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum I've gotten one PM and three others posting some interest. No one has contacted Brian yet for files and PW as I got an email from him last night. I really want a chance to sink CVB Midway. [:D] You have to get past hundreds of B-29s that want to ruin your econ before you get to see Midway!! First things first. [:D]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/8/2018 12:21:07 PM)
Way to kill my 'little fantasy' Erik! [:D] Months ago I was talking with John about BTS and BTSL and future changes. At that time a book I was reading had the main character in Argentina and somebody on this board I think mentioned a German BB (I think it was a series from 60s now on YouTube). So, I got John to research if Japan had any plans for pocket-BB. There were plans for a 12" gun, but no pocket. So, in new BTS version Japan has the Niitaka Class CAs come with 6 x 12" guns while the Allies now get two more Alaska BCs (Puerto Rico and Hawaii). This will be in BTS version, not BTSL. Hopefully, this game continues so both sides get to play with the late war toys. New changes to BTS may have the same effect for those playing new games. My goal is simple....complete a game (into 45 or 46) with Japan and then as Allies. If this game doesn't continue, I'll be looking for a new game BTS or BTSL to work on that goal.

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/8/2018 10:06:29 PM)
Well done. I bet you have problems finding a replacement, as most players want a strong position. My guess is there is much that needs attention here, especially given the hectic pace you guys have played at. Wouldn't bother me though, I like em ugly.[:D]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/16/2018 7:00:34 AM)
I may have found a replacement Allied player in AcePylut (Darryn). I think he has everything he needs including the Dec 1st turn. Fingers crossed. [;)]

Mike Solli -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/19/2018 9:35:22 PM)
Any update?

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (3/20/2018 11:44:27 AM)
Sent PM to both his home email addresses last night. Please stand by. Meanwhile, I'm playing Allies vs AI (Long Road to Tokyo) and at end of Dec 41. AI is planning to invade Hiva Oa. AI scripts are from Andy Mac, so he must be channeling his inner John 3rd. [:D] I've already lost Hilo, Kona, Midway, Johnson, Christmas Island, Coal Harbour, and Noumea.

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