RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A)

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ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/9/2017 9:17:55 PM)
July 21st: Norfolk Island - RO-62 gets 2 TT hits on APD (sunk). 19 Zeros sweep aside 17 Nz Kitty & 10 Wildcats (losses are 1:4). Port Morseby - 35 Zeros sweep before 64 Lily/Sally from Horn Island hit AF and then 72 Kates sink 4 PT in port. Lanchow - usual bombing Nanning - now empty Noumea - ASW TF and small SC TF head for Luganville CVs spotted 2 SW of Norfolk (122F, 170B, 8Aux) - so 3 American CVs present!! Naka Ha-45 to 2/43. 4 of 5 George factories repaired and R&D at 54 to date. Hope to get them in 10/42!! July 22nd: Port Morseby - Brian moved in 72 P-39s and 12 Kitty. I lose 70 planes (34 pilots), mostly Kates, to only 12 Allies. Meanwhile, 7 CAs and 8 DDs are two days away (west of Horn Island). Attu - I finally land here! Nanning - empty base now Japan's Notes: KB2 (189 planes) & 3 (168 planes) are 6 hexes due east of Rabaul. KB4 (237 planes) is 5 due west of Truk heading south now (CV Hiyo, Junyo, 4x CVL). 2 fast AOs TFs with over 100k fuel each still slightly west, but headed towards Tulagi now. Screenshot shows ALL those TFs headed to NW, but.... [image]local://upfiles/15133/5DBE8153F9A04D63B1C4CC050218D00B.jpg[/image]

traskott -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/10/2017 9:38:48 AM)
Suscribed... It will be interesting know how the allied counterattack ( or if he can ) [:)]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/10/2017 12:47:20 PM)
July 23rd: Allied "Death Star" moves 2 hexes NE to end up 4 NW of Norfolk Island. 122F, 151B, 15Aux Meanwhile, KB continues to move through the Solomon Islands... Jaffna, Ceylon - This empty base on northern coast is captured by elements of 1st Para Div. July 24th: CV clash off Adak.....details this afternoon after work. [;)]

Bif1961 -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 1:21:26 AM)
You WITPAE tease!

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 7:11:23 AM)
July 24th: Are 3 CVEs enough to stand up to an American CV? Nope! [:D] TFs are only 2 hexes apart. quote: Morning Air attack on TF, near Ulak Island at 160,55 (3 SW of Adak) Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 12 B5N2 Kate x 10 D3A1 Val x 22 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 36 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed D3A1 Val: 14 destroyed, 1 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed Allied Ships CV Wasp BB North Carolina Aircraft Attacking: 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers Morning Air attack on TF, near Adak Island at 161,53 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 12 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 12 SBD-3 Dauntless x 30 TBF-1 Avenger x 12 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4F-3A Wildcat: 2 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese Ships CVE Ibuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires TB Tomozuru CVE Taiyo CL Nagara TB Manazuru DD Odonami Aircraft Attacking: 3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 10 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp. 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers Ibuki-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes Ammo storage explosion on CVE Ibuki Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Ibuki Ammo storage explosion on CVE Hosho Ammo storage explosion on CVE Hosho Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Hosho I am surprised to see a lone CV up in the Aleutians while the main show is off New Calendonia. quote: Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ulak Island at 160,55 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 D3A1 Val x 5 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 23 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed D3A1 Val: 3 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Wasp BB North Carolina Aircraft Attacking: 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Adak Island at 161,53 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 6 SBD-3 Dauntless x 30 TBF-1 Avenger x 10 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese Ships CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 2, on fire xAK Hokuriku Maru CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage SUNK xAK Koto Maru CVE Ibuki, on fire xAK Tainichi Maru AMC Awata Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 22 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 11 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp. 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes Ibuki-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 12000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Taiyo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Hosho Survivors are ordered to NW along with smaller Amphib TF. Some are very short of fuel and head to Adak. Will Brian give chase??

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 7:27:02 AM)
July 24th: SoPac Brian has been very slow to move on New Calendonia. Maybe it was waiting on 2nd CV TF that shows up this turn? His totals are 208F, 226B, 28Aux. [image]local://upfiles/15133/35377FF184B8485DAEF0F4E9C6E52F70.jpg[/image]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 7:42:29 AM)
July 25th: Aleutians Brian does not pursue my CVEs or go after the multiple small Amphib TFs. Is an invasion of Adak in the works? Submarine attack near Adak Island at 162,52 Japanese Ships xAK Turusima Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Silversides Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled xAK Turusima Maru is sighted by SS Silversides SS Silversides attacking xAK Turusima Maru on the surface Morning Air attack on TF, near Adak Island at 162,52 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 7 SBD-3 Dauntless x 25 TBF-1 Avenger x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships TB Hatsukari, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage TB Tomozuru xAK Tensyo Maru TB Manazuru TB Chidori, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yosyu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp. 7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 10 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: 203rd Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 14 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 11000. Raid is overhead Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TB Chidori I got off light, all things considered. [image]local://upfiles/15133/E0023ED8C26A4F3D8F89BC3A4C8F3DB5.jpg[/image]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 7:46:03 AM)
July 25th: Dual Bombardments Night Naval bombardment of Port Moresby at 98,130 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 22 damaged Catalina I: 2 damaged Japanese Ships CA Yoshino CA Chishima CA Seiki CA Ashigara CA Nachi CA Haguro CA Myoko DD Yamakaze DD Yudachi DD Harusame DD Murasame DD Shiratsuyu TB Kamo TB Kiji TB Kari TB Otori Allied ground losses: 430 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 66 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 28 (3 destroyed, 25 disabled) Vehicles lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled) Airbase hits 25 Airbase supply hits 11 Runway hits 64 Port hits 32 Port fuel hits 5 Port supply hits 1 E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Yoshino CA Yoshino firing at Port Moresby E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Chishima CA Chishima firing at 30th Australian Brigade CA Seiki firing at 30th Australian Brigade CA Ashigara firing at Port Moresby CA Nachi firing at 7th Australian Brigade CA Haguro firing at Port Moresby CA Myoko firing at Port Moresby DD Yamakaze firing at Port Moresby DD Yudachi firing at Port Moresby DD Harusame firing at Port Moresby DD Murasame firing at Port Moresby DD Shiratsuyu firing at Port Moresby TB Kamo firing at Port Moresby TB Kiji firing at Port Moresby TB Kari firing at 7th Australian Brigade TB Otori firing at Port Moresby -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Noumea at 115,160 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses A6M3b Zero: 9 damaged 15 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BB West Virginia BB Colorado BB Maryland CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1 CA New Orleans CL St. Louis Japanese ground losses: 314 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled) Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Light Industry hits 1 Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 18 Port hits 3 OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB West Virginia BB West Virginia firing at 6th Ind.Infantry Brigade BB Colorado firing at 93rd Base Force BB Maryland firing at 5th Base Force CA Minneapolis firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at CA Minneapolis SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA New Orleans CA New Orleans firing at Noumea CL St. Louis firing at 6th Ind.Infantry Brigade I hope my Forts 5 help restrict my casualties.

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 7:50:38 AM)
July 25th: New Caledonia I told Brian to bring the kitchen sink here. I think he did!! Pre-Invasion action off Noumea (115,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 136 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BC Strasbourg BC Dunkerque BC Constellation BC Ranger CA Algerie CA Burlington CA Astoria CL Lamotte-Picquet CLAA Atlanta DD Le Fier DD Stribling DD Le Triomphant DD Ellet DD Benham AMC Prince Robert AK Alchiba AK Fomalhaut AK Bellatrix AMC Monowai DD Bison II Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 25 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled BC Strasbourg firing at 5th Base Force 5th Base Force firing at BC Strasbourg BC Dunkerque firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at BC Dunkerque BC Constellation firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at BC Constellation BC Ranger firing at 5th Base Force CA Algerie firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at CA Algerie CA Burlington firing at 5th Base Force 5th Base Force firing at CA Burlington CA Astoria firing at 6th Ind.Infantry Brigade 93rd Base Force firing at CL Lamotte-Picquet CL Lamotte-Picquet firing at 93rd Base Force CLAA Atlanta firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at CLAA Atlanta DD Le Fier firing at 6th Ind.Infantry Brigade DD Stribling firing at 5th Base Force 5th Base Force firing at DD Stribling 5th Base Force firing at DD Le Triomphant DD Le Triomphant firing at 5th Base Force 5th Base Force firing at DD Ellet DD Ellet firing at 5th Base Force DD Benham firing at 6th Ind.Infantry Brigade AMC Prince Robert firing at 5th Base Force 8cm/40 T88 DP Battery engaging AK Alchiba at 11,000 yards BC Strasbourg firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards 8cm/40 T88 DP Battery engaging AK Fomalhaut at 11,000 yards BC Strasbourg firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards 8cm/40 T88 DP Battery engaging AK Bellatrix at 11,000 yards BC Strasbourg firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards 8cm/40 T88 DP Battery engaging AK Bellatrix at 11,000 yards BC Strasbourg firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards DD Le Fier fired at enemy troops DD Stribling fired at enemy troops DD Le Triomphant fired at enemy troops AMC Prince Robert fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Noumea (115,160) TF 283 troops unloading over beach at Noumea, 115,160 Allied ground losses: 145 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled) Vehicles lost 10 (2 destroyed, 8 disabled) 13 troops of a USA 41 Rifle Squad lost in surf during unload of 40th Infantry Div /3 Motorized Support lost overboard during unload of 40th Infantry Div /5 Motorized Support lost from landing craft during unload of 40th Infantry Div /6 12 troops of a US Cmbt Eng Sqd accidentally lost during unload of 27th Infantry Div /3 13 troops of a USA 41 Rifle Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 27th Infantry Div /6 13 troops of a USA 41 Rifle Squad lost in surf during unload of 40th Infantry Div -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Noumea (115,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 127 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BC Strasbourg BC Dunkerque BC Constellation BC Ranger CA Algerie CA Burlington CA Astoria CL Lamotte-Picquet, Shell hits 1 CLAA Atlanta DD Stribling DD Le Triomphant DD Ellet DD Benham AMC Monowai DD Bison II Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 18 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled BC Strasbourg firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at BC Strasbourg BC Dunkerque firing at 6th Ind.Infantry Brigade BC Ranger firing at 5th Base Force CA Algerie firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at CA Algerie CA Burlington firing at 1st Air Flotilla 93rd Base Force firing at CA Astoria CL Lamotte-Picquet firing at 5th Base Force 5th Base Force firing at CL Lamotte-Picquet 93rd Base Force firing at CLAA Atlanta CLAA Atlanta firing at 93rd Base Force DD Stribling firing at 93rd Base Force 5th Base Force firing at DD Le Triomphant DD Ellet firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at DD Ellet DD Benham firing at 93rd Base Force 93rd Base Force firing at DD Benham AMC Monowai firing at 5th Base Force DD Le Triomphant fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at La Foa (114,159) TF 280 troops unloading over beach at La Foa, 114,159 Allied ground losses: 227 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 11 (0 destroyed, 11 disabled) 13 troops of a USA 41 Rifle Squad accidentally lost during unload of 32nd Infantry Div /1 13 troops of a USA 41 Rifle Squad accidentally lost during unload of 32nd Infantry Div /7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Noumea (115,160) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 70 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships AK Fomalhaut BC Constellation BC Strasbourg AMC Monowai DD Bison II Allied ground losses: 66 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled BC Constellation firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards BC Strasbourg firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Noumea (115,160) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 4865 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 264 Defending force 27807 troops, 438 guns, 385 vehicles, Assault Value = 809 Japanese ground losses: 36 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 6th Ind.Infantry Brigade 2nd Naval Pioneer Battalion 1st Air Flotilla 12th Ind.AA Gun Co 93rd Base Force 13th Ind.AA Gun Co 5th Base Force 106th JAAF AF Bn 107th JAAF AF Bn Defending units: 110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion 27th Infantry Division 40th Infantry Division 193rd Tank Battalion 168th Field Artillery Battalion 102nd USN Stn Base Force 205th Field Artillery Battalion 181st Field Artillery Battalion 43rd Construction Regiment

traskott -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 10:47:07 AM)
Two full inf. division plus 3 art bons plus combat engineers.... yes, looks like a full attack to me [;)]. Will the Empire prevail ?

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 1:35:23 PM)
We will adjust. This mod gets 120 PP per day vs normal 75 that John is using for official version. I may lose New Calendonia, but I think I can hurt him in long run. 😉

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 1:57:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants We will adjust. This mod gets 120 PP per day vs normal 75 that John is using for official version. I may lose New Calendonia, but I think I can hurt him in long run. 😉 That's the spirit. JFB have flexible minds.[;)]

Lecivius -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 2:03:50 PM)
That's a whole lot of firepower for July '42. And his carriers are split? [&:]

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 2:09:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lecivius And his carriers are split? [&:] Against Michael, too![sm=00000613.gif]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 3:27:29 PM)
CV Akagi and her sister, Amagi, are up at Kobe for upgrade and have another 30 days until complete. KB1 has a CVL. In the next 30 days I get the third of four Shokaku Class CVs and the lead CVL of Aso Class (36 planes and 33 knots). So, I will decide to sent them either south or east by then. [:)]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 3:29:25 PM)
KB2, 3, and 4 only moved 4 hexes instead of 7 to get my desired 7 hexes away from the Americans. Damn short legged DDs. [sm=00000018.gif]

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 3:37:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Damn short legged DDs. [sm=00000018.gif] Spoiled![:D]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 4:12:35 PM)
That's why I accelerating the 8300 Endurance Moon Class DDs. They are specifically built to be CV escorts. [:D]

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 4:50:24 PM)
Moon class![sm=00000030.gif] Where is the challenge in playing a Japan like this?[:'(]

Bif1961 -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/11/2017 9:06:34 PM)
A well Balanced invasion by him, and he took advantage of your July upgrade window.

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 11:10:28 AM)
I've fallen way, way behind in my postings as we are now up to Aug 11th. Let me just say that there are "TWO" Battle for New Caledonia." [8D] The war may be a long one. [:D] However, I need to know what conditions I need to meet to unload the big 20cm CD guns? The load cost are 179. I have another of these LCUs unloaded at Carnarvon. However, I cannot get the 4 x 20cm guns off the xAK that is now docked even though I've increased the size of the port to 2. I have two Ship Eng in route from Soerabaja to increase Nav Support at base, but will that be enough? [image]local://upfiles/15133/847EE3D608B74EAC85C1432761812F58.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 12:10:27 PM)
You need AK, maybe LSD will work too, never tried them...but those bad little girls need military transport. Every JFB runs into this problem. Edit: Sweet Christmas, that is a good unit! OMG. I assume there are at least three previous units too. It better be a long war.[;)]

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 12:19:24 PM)
I have TEN of these, Jeff!!

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 12:41:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants I have TEN of these, Jeff!! Huh, your original post said xak? So you have 10 AKs unloading the 20mm guns in a size 2 port. Amphibious or Cargo? Total naval support present? Also, it is odd to see, looking at that unit, it doesn't have any inherent naval squads like the 31st Spcl does. Can't recall about wake cd unit. I have off loaded 20cm guns using AK, amphibious mode, onto size 1 ports.

PaxMondo -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 12:44:04 PM)
There a formula in the manual for NavSupport and load/unload. Port 2 is dismally small. Is the unit Amphib or Transport? Amphib GREATLY improves ability to off load. I'll bet you will need a naval HQ to get enough NavSupport to off load.

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 1:45:27 PM)
Put all present aks' into an amphibious task force and try unloading them then, with no other port activity.

BBfanboy -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 2:37:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Put all present aks' into an amphibious task force and try unloading them then, with no other port activity. If a ship has been loaded "Transport", you will not be able to put it in an Amphib TF. But I am betting it is already in an Amphibious TF - who ships a CD unit in transport mode when fast unload is desired? Assuming the ship can dock, more naval support is the fastest way to get the guns unloaded. Even at that it may take several days to unload each gun! Building the port to 3 will definitely help. Command HQ in range helps (I think). If necessary, take the big guns back to the nearest big base, unload them and load them on an AK or LSD if you can. Sometimes having an Amphib TF remain undocked is better, since the AI abstracts the presence of lighters to transfer stuff, but I think the lighters in a size two port are just too small to handle guns of that weight.

ny59giants -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 2:48:19 PM)
It's on board a single xAK docked. If the two small Ship Eng LCUs are not enough, I'll ship in a Naval HQ from Soerabaja. Since I have 10 of these big CD units with these guns, I need to find out what I need (port size and/or Naval Support to be able to unload them).

BBfanboy -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 3:01:47 PM)
Section 9.3.3 of the manual contains the unloading table: 9.3.3 PORT SIZE A large number of capabilities are linked to port size (with adjustments). These items and their basic values are: Port Size Largest Ship Docked Port Total Ships Docked in Port Cargo Handling Fueling Rearm Level 0 0 0 100 100 0 1 6,000 6,000 2,500 2,500 15 2 9,000 12,000 6,250 6,250 25 3 12,000 24,000 11,250 11,250 40 4 24,000 48,000 18,750 18,750 110 5 36,000 60,000 33,000 25,000 300 6 48,000 84,000 54,500 27,500 700 7 60,000 104,000 72,800 34,375 5500 8 72,000 128,000 108,800 62,500 6000 9 78,000 172,000 150,500 93,750 6500 10 84,500 196,000 176,000 125,000 9999 Basic values are adjusted by port damage. Thus a port with a damage level of 10 would lose 10% of its capacity in all functions. Sorry about the formatting. The Rearm Level uses the weight of the item to determine if the Port can handle it or not. You said the gun weight was 179, so without NS you need a level 5 port to unload it while docked. Better get that Naval HQ!

Lowpe -> RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A) (7/18/2017 4:07:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants It's on board a single xAK docked. If the two small Ship Eng LCUs are not enough, I'll ship in a Naval HQ from Soerabaja. Since I have 10 of these big CD units with these guns, I need to find out what I need (port size and/or Naval Support to be able to unload them). Probably won't be enough. I have had 20cm guns at a size 5 port not unload (with some naval supply at the port) loaded on an xak -- or at least I recall doing that long ago. Never, ever, put them on xaks![:-] My advice would be to ship them back to the closest size 7 port and then reload them in amphibious mode onto an AK.

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