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crsutton -> OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/5/2017 3:23:38 PM)

This is a M1 Garand that was owned by my friend's dad. He was an army photographer during the war but acquired this rifle after leaving the army. It is in very good condition. Here is a link if you want to look at all of the photos. https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipN-QpRYChc-x8NjUYFRSFIOHBS5RSa5pU7LdTtC

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crsutton -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/5/2017 3:24:50 PM)

That other rifle in the photo is a nice 1903 Springfield.




geofflambert -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/5/2017 7:10:40 PM)

Link is dead.

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Chickenboy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/5/2017 8:00:58 PM)

I was honored that a good buddy of mine on this very forum took me shooting with him a couple times. Got to fire the M1 Garand and its cousin the M1 carbine. Both fun guns to shoot.

I've always thought the M1 would be a great weapon if you had to butt stroke someone with it too. It's got a heavy wooden stock that's designed to stand up to some serious punishment.

Not bad for a French Canadian, eh? [8D]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Garand




AW1Steve -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 1:04:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I was honored that a good buddy of mine on this very forum took me shooting with him a couple times. Got to fire the M1 Garand and its cousin the M1 carbine. Both fun guns to shoot.

I've always thought the M1 would be a great weapon if you had to butt stroke someone with it too. It's got a heavy wooden stock that's designed to stand up to some serious punishment.

Not bad for a French Canadian, eh? [8D]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Garand



And next time we'll try the Mauser, StormGwer and the Puedo-Thompson. Unless you want to go Full Russian. [:D]




Chickenboy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 2:43:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
StormGwer


An SG44? Hory crap! [X(][&o]




crsutton -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 3:00:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Link is dead.

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Hmmmm. working for me. Perhaps you need to sign in with a google account.




crsutton -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 3:01:08 PM)

Not a collector's rifle because the parts have been mixed. But a fine shooter with a the bore in excellent shape.




AW1Steve -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 3:04:04 PM)

Calm yourself O' healer of poultry. It's a STG-44-22. Even if I had a class 3 license (unlikely while I'm residing in Mordor) and even if I could afford a real one , the ammunition is not yet being made. The company that made my rifle is trying to build a replica , 1st for 9mm and eventually (once it finds some one to produce the correct ammo). But for now , it's fun to blast away wastefully with 22.

I'm considering ordering the "Burp gun" replica they make for 22. It would pretty much close out my "Russian collection". Or maybe the MP-40-22 also made by them . (That unfortunately has a cheesy suppressor replica attached and is not removable).




Chickenboy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 3:08:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Calm yourself O' healer of poultry. It's a STG-44-22. Even if I had a class 3 license (unlikely while I'm residing in Mordor) and even if I could afford a real one , the ammunition is not yet being made. The company that made my rifle is trying to build a replica , 1st for 9mm and eventually (once it finds some one to produce the correct ammo). Nut for now , it's fun to blast away wastefully with 22.


A .22 pseudo-SG44? [:(][sm=sad-1361.gif][sm=nono.gif]

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I'm considering ordering the "Burp gun" replica they make for 22. It would pretty much close out my "Russian collection".


An M3 "Burp gun"? That should be readily available in .45ACP, no? What does an M3 have to do with a "Russian collection"?




AW1Steve -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 3:21:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Calm yourself O' healer of poultry. It's a STG-44-22. Even if I had a class 3 license (unlikely while I'm residing in Mordor) and even if I could afford a real one , the ammunition is not yet being made. The company that made my rifle is trying to build a replica , 1st for 9mm and eventually (once it finds some one to produce the correct ammo). Nut for now , it's fun to blast away wastefully with 22.


A .22 pseudo-SG44? [:(][sm=sad-1361.gif][sm=nono.gif]

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I'm considering ordering the "Burp gun" replica they make for 22. It would pretty much close out my "Russian collection".


An M3 "Burp gun"? That should be readily available in .45ACP, no? What does an M3 have to do with a "Russian collection"?

An M-3 was a "Grease gun", named after the tool it most resembled. The "Burp gun" was the name given to the Russian PPsh-41 , mainly due to the sound it made. The faced a few captured by the Germans in WW2 , and a whole lot given to North Koreans and Chinese troops in Korea. http://www.a-human-right.com/ppsh.html




AW1Steve -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 3:25:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Calm yourself O' healer of poultry. It's a STG-44-22. Even if I had a class 3 license (unlikely while I'm residing in Mordor) and even if I could afford a real one , the ammunition is not yet being made. The company that made my rifle is trying to build a replica , 1st for 9mm and eventually (once it finds some one to produce the correct ammo). Nut for now , it's fun to blast away wastefully with 22.


A .22 pseudo-SG44? [:(][sm=sad-1361.gif][sm=nono.gif]

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I'm considering ordering the "Burp gun" replica they make for 22. It would pretty much close out my "Russian collection".


An M3 "Burp gun"? That should be readily available in .45ACP, no? What does an M3 have to do with a "Russian collection"?



I have several "puedo weapons" in 22. A 1911-22 , a M-9-22 . I have a "Thompson clone" , semi auto in 45 cal. And of course the STG-44-22. It absolutely looks Identical (I've seen one next to a REAL one at a gun show. You need to pull the magazine out and look down into it to tell the difference. Even the markings are identical. And the weight is within a few onces.




MakeeLearn -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 4:37:23 PM)


Me likey!!! Me shoot long time!



STG-44-22

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AW1Steve -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 5:02:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn


Me likey!!! Me shoot long time!



STG-44-22

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You will love it! It's fun to shoot , and the best part about owning it is the looks you get on the gun range when you pull it out. Everything from WTF! to RUN! But everybody wants to see it and ask questions. And your not risking a rare historical artifact every time you shoot it. [:)]




Lowpe -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 8:15:09 PM)

The history dept at West Point holds a WW2 shoot every year for the cadets, or did.

German, Russian, American, British...little bit of everything, full auto, etc., but the Carcano's are deemed too dangerous to shoot. [:D]

Ok, just kidding on that last part.[;)]




crsutton -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 9:06:11 PM)

Had a somewhat spooky uncle in the 1960's who was a fan of Nazi memorabilia. When I was about ten he took my brother and I shooting. Some fun stuff-Luger, Broom Handle Mausers, and a Spanish Astra. But his pride and joy was a STG-44 and we got to shoot that as well. But only one clip each as the ammo was no longer made and expensive. My brother shot semi-auto but I figured YOLO and blasted off my clip on full auto. I will never forget it. The dude was a bit weird but I have to give him credit. He made sure my brother and I were fully schooled in firearm safety. Just like learning to swim, it is a good thing for young kid to learn.




BBfanboy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 10:08:23 PM)

I fired several WWII era weapons during my initial armed forces training, plus the then-current FN-1 assault rifle and FN-2 LMG (7.62 caliber). The Sten was inaccurate beyond 10 yards. The Sterling SMG was much better and I was good with that. The FN-1 was heavy and had a nasty kick, partly because I am short and the stock was too long for me (they weren't about to cut it shorter for a mere officer cadet!).

Haven't handled guns much other than my Remington Nylon 66 (.22 semi-auto).
Last Sunday my son unveiled his first rifle acquisition - a really cool Israeli weapon - the Tavor- that fits very comfortably from the moment you lift it. And the sight he ordered has a reticle featuring a tritium (radioactive H2O gas) reticle that need no battery to glow. Very cool. No chance to go range shooting with it yet.





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jcjordan -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/6/2017 10:44:59 PM)

For 7.92x33 ammo, you can make your own if you've the set up. I think Hornady or PriviPartisan made a run a few yrs ago so there might be some out on the gunshow circuits, you can occasionally find some Nazi era or Czech made postwar stuff. To make your own, I think it's using either a 30.06 or 8mm case & cut it then form it much in the way many use shotgun brass to make 577/450 Martini cases. I roll my own for mine partly due to what's commercially available isn't made for accuracy - 303Brit, 30.06, 7.5Swiss.




AW1Steve -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/7/2017 1:35:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jcjordan

For 7.92x33 ammo, you can make your own if you've the set up. I think Hornady or PriviPartisan made a run a few yrs ago so there might be some out on the gunshow circuits, you can occasionally find some Nazi era or Czech made postwar stuff. To make your own, I think it's using either a 30.06 or 8mm case & cut it then form it much in the way many use shotgun brass to make 577/450 Martini cases. I roll my own for mine partly due to what's commercially available isn't made for accuracy - 303Brit, 30.06, 7.5Swiss.

Privipartisan still makes it. But it's often hard to find. And the special handling fee is as much as the ammo it'self if you order it from the company.




Mundy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/7/2017 3:21:17 PM)

Here's what I had out a week ago. A Polish Tantal (Polish AK-74)

[img]http://i.imgur.com/ZNrvpul.jpg[/img]

My group at 100 yds.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/ABkgFro.jpg[/img]

My Brother had his M1A (civil M-14) and that thing is pretty accurate.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/wWJ46An.jpg[/img]




Chickenboy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/7/2017 3:39:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mundy
My group at 100 yds.


Open sights with the Tantal?

If so, that's not a bad grouping. [8D]




Mundy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/7/2017 3:47:13 PM)

Yeah, iron sights. As dark as they are, I had a hard time seeing them against the background.




wdolson -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/8/2017 12:24:33 AM)

Here's something for the replica fans
http://www.evike.com/products/44006/





Big B -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/8/2017 12:38:46 AM)

M1 Garand is THE classic Battle Rifle.
I've owned two - still have one (other was stolen in a home burglary 20 years ago).

My Dad carried one in Korea 52-53 (along with the BAR), I have shot them for 37 or more years - I don't think there is anything quite like one.
I remember many shooting trips to the SoCal Desert (in the 1980's) where friends brought HK-91's, AR-15's, M1A's,etc...all I can tell you is Nothing shot like the old Garand - especially over 500 yards (fu'getta'bout it).
Heck, I even remember buying 30-06 M2 Ball for 10 cents a round (can't beat that either).

Very nice.[8D]


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ORIGINAL: crsutton

This is a M1 Garand that was owned by my friend's dad. He was an army photographer during the war but acquired this rifle after leaving the army. It is in very good condition. Here is a link if you want to look at all of the photos. https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipN-QpRYChc-x8NjUYFRSFIOHBS5RSa5pU7LdTtC







Big B -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/8/2017 12:55:27 AM)

Chickenboy, now that I read this - I'll comment from an informed observers POV on that.

When I was in Infantry School at Fort Benning many years ago, I watched one guy in our company get pissed-off at another guy...and he butt-stroked him with his M-16A1.
The target blocked the hit with his fore-arm, and took the M-16 away from his assailant.

The M1 has a heavy wood stock and steel butt plate, had what I witnessed happened - say 40 years earlier when the troops carried M1's - I have no doubt the outcome would have been very different (most likely a broken arm while blocking the hit).


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I was honored that a good buddy of mine on this very forum took me shooting with him a couple times. Got to fire the M1 Garand and its cousin the M1 carbine. Both fun guns to shoot.

I've always thought the M1 would be a great weapon if you had to butt stroke someone with it too. It's got a heavy wooden stock that's designed to stand up to some serious punishment.

Not bad for a French Canadian, eh? [8D]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Garand





Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/8/2017 1:07:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I fired several WWII era weapons during my initial armed forces training, plus the then-current FN-1 assault rifle and FN-2 LMG (7.62 caliber). The Sten was inaccurate beyond 10 yards. The Sterling SMG was much better and I was good with that. The FN-1 was heavy and had a nasty kick, partly because I am short and the stock was too long for me (they weren't about to cut it shorter for a mere officer cadet!).

Haven't handled guns much other than my Remington Nylon 66 (.22 semi-auto).
Last Sunday my son unveiled his first rifle acquisition - a really cool Israeli weapon - the Tavor- that fits very comfortably from the moment you lift it. And the sight he ordered has a reticle featuring a tritium (radioactive H2O gas) reticle that need no battery to glow. Very cool. No chance to go range shooting with it yet.



I didn't know these kind of guns were allowed in Canada; is it only for range shooting?




Chickenboy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/8/2017 2:20:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: wdolson

Here's something for the replica fans
http://www.evike.com/products/44006/




Oh wow. Just wow. Me likee.

The MG42 is on my bucket list.




BBfanboy -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/8/2017 7:08:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I fired several WWII era weapons during my initial armed forces training, plus the then-current FN-1 assault rifle and FN-2 LMG (7.62 caliber). The Sten was inaccurate beyond 10 yards. The Sterling SMG was much better and I was good with that. The FN-1 was heavy and had a nasty kick, partly because I am short and the stock was too long for me (they weren't about to cut it shorter for a mere officer cadet!).

Haven't handled guns much other than my Remington Nylon 66 (.22 semi-auto).
Last Sunday my son unveiled his first rifle acquisition - a really cool Israeli weapon - the Tavor- that fits very comfortably from the moment you lift it. And the sight he ordered has a reticle featuring a tritium (radioactive H2O gas) reticle that need no battery to glow. Very cool. No chance to go range shooting with it yet.



I didn't know these kind of guns were allowed in Canada; is it only for range shooting?

Yes. He has no interest in hunting and when not at the range it has to be locked up, so it is not intended to defend anything - until the zombie apocalypse of course. [:D]
I forgot to ask but I think it has been modified to prevent full auto fire. Last I heard full automatic weapons are prohibited in Canada unless you are in the police or armed forces.




rustysi -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/11/2017 10:41:18 PM)

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Not a collector's rifle because the parts have been mixed.


Unfortunately that's the cased with many, if not most, of the Garand's.

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The MG42 is on my bucket list.


Nah, Ma-duce.





Itdepends -> RE: OT-Sharing a some pics of a cool rifle. (7/12/2017 12:54:06 PM)

Interesting photo
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