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Jaimainsoyyo -> Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 10:08:09 AM)

After axis units entered Vichy France collapsing it , the program started to roll a die roll for every colony that Vichy France had. Is it right or is it a bug?



Joseignacio -> RE: Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 10:25:07 AM)

Bug. From RAW

quote:

Vichy French collapse
If an Axis unit enters any hex in Metropolitan Vichy France before an Allied unit does, Vichy France collapses.
If Vichy France collapses, it ceases to exist as a major power. All of Metropolitan Vichy France is now conquered by the Axis major power that installed the Vichy government (see 13.7.1).
Each home country or territory aligned with Vichy France becomes conquered by any Axis major power that has a land unit in it. Other home countries and territories aligned with Vichy France align with Free France (or become Free France with a new home country if it is currently completely conquered).
Move all Vichy land and aircraft units in Metropolitan Vichy France to the Free French force pools. All other Vichy land and aircraft units are now Free French.
All Vichy naval units on the production circle, construction pool and repair pool become controlled by the Axis major power that caused the collapse.
All on map Vichy naval units are now Free French. Treat each of them in a home country or territory now controlled by an Axis major power as if it had been surprised when overrun (see 11.11.6).
If an Allied unit enters Metropolitan Vichy France before it has collapsed:
ï Axis units can enter Metropolitan Vichy France without causing a collapse; and
ï Vichy units no longer test their loyalty prior to land combat resolution (see 17.5).


There is no roll in the collapse, there was when Vichy was created only.



Joseignacio -> RE: Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 10:34:59 AM)

Unless it's not rolling for the colonies but for the overrun of the naval units instead, that is....



Jaimainsoyyo -> RE: Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 10:38:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

Bug. From RAW

quote:

Vichy French collapse
If an Axis unit enters any hex in Metropolitan Vichy France before an Allied unit does, Vichy France collapses.
If Vichy France collapses, it ceases to exist as a major power. All of Metropolitan Vichy France is now conquered by the Axis major power that installed the Vichy government (see 13.7.1).
Each home country or territory aligned with Vichy France becomes conquered by any Axis major power that has a land unit in it. Other home countries and territories aligned with Vichy France align with Free France (or become Free France with a new home country if it is currently completely conquered).
Move all Vichy land and aircraft units in Metropolitan Vichy France to the Free French force pools. All other Vichy land and aircraft units are now Free French.
All Vichy naval units on the production circle, construction pool and repair pool become controlled by the Axis major power that caused the collapse.
All on map Vichy naval units are now Free French. Treat each of them in a home country or territory now controlled by an Axis major power as if it had been surprised when overrun (see 11.11.6).
If an Allied unit enters Metropolitan Vichy France before it has collapsed:
ï Axis units can enter Metropolitan Vichy France without causing a collapse; and
ï Vichy units no longer test their loyalty prior to land combat resolution (see 17.5).


There is no roll in the collapse, there was when Vichy was created only.



Gracias eso pensaba yo, pero si no te importa chequear si te pasa eso también a ti en el escenario Missed the Bus, te estaría agradecido.



Joseignacio -> RE: Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 12:14:25 PM)

Uff, para hacer eso tendria que recrear la situacion, dependiendo de si estas jugando en solitario o de otra manera y llegar hasta el punto en que se puede colapsar Vichy (no recuerdo el escenario). Si es en solitario se puede intentar, si es en PBEM eso no lo conozco y si es en Netplay no me va el juego de momento...

Si es en solitario y se puede hacer sin meter X horas de juego, lo intento.

(He is asking me if I can try to reproduce the error in a game of mine).



Jaimainsoyyo -> RE: Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 1:19:18 PM)

Lo puedes hacer si te apetece desde el primer impulso del escenario (eje jul 40).Ya he detectado algún que otro bug en este escenario ( como la misteriosa desaparición de todos los refuerzos soviéticos iniciales tras desplegar a los maoistas) que Orm ha pasado a Steve para que lo reparen.



Joseignacio -> RE: Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 3:10:37 PM)

ok



Centuur -> RE: Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 5:54:09 PM)

This is surely a bug. Can you post a gamesave in here, so someone can investigate this?



Jaimainsoyyo -> RE: Us entry and Vichy Collapse (7/10/2017 6:58:36 PM)

Proceed to rail movement phase ,and then use italian or german to collapse Vichy .



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