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joey -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/2/2017 7:59:39 PM)
There is no one, iconic picture of WWII or any other war for that matter. There are victors; there are losers. But there are no winners. So, how could there be one picture the describes the war? I believe Sherman said, "War is Hell". Unless someone has a picture of hell, I doubt we will ever have a definitive picture of this or any other war. Above I see a lot of pictures of the war. Too bad these pictures don't go any further to stop the next war.

warspite1 -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/2/2017 8:13:41 PM)
What does the OP see as the iconic image if the Pacific War?

AW1Steve -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/2/2017 8:20:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joey There is no one, iconic picture of WWII or any other war for that matter. There are victors; there are losers. But there are no winners. So, how could there be one picture the describes the war? I believe Sherman said, "War is Hell". Unless someone has a picture of hell, I doubt we will ever have a definitive picture of this or any other war. Above I see a lot of pictures of the war. Too bad these pictures don't go any further to stop the next war. Ask and ye shall receive: [image]local://upfiles/24345/5B43ADA81C4B42938B0F54787F195A7A.jpg[/image]

Lecivius -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/2/2017 8:21:12 PM)
. [image]local://upfiles/26061/5499165348D0468C847B9DA6B3E30A9F.jpg[/image]

AW1Steve -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/2/2017 8:29:21 PM)
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AW1Steve -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/2/2017 8:32:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AW1Steve Here's a branch office of hell: [image]local://upfiles/24345/9D7939748C774FC4A63A35D5C9D01471.jpg[/image]

spence -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 12:40:00 AM)
quote: Unless someone has a picture of hell, I doubt we will ever have a definitive picture of this or any other war. Admittedly not the Pacific in WWII but this guy did an OK job. [image]local://upfiles/9007/CF33F0A6F8C04C468DB3552304796377.jpg[/image]

spence -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 2:58:30 AM)
A hundred years later and the earth still shows the scars.

Canoerebel -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 3:09:47 AM)
The OP asked an interesting and provocative question. Forumites could weigh in with all kinds of good suggestions, insights, and remembrances of the photos that made an impact on them. Instead, we get Forumites wishing to say that no picture will work because nobody can win a war, pictures of decrepit cities, pictures from Europe in the Great War, etc. Is it that difficult for us to stay on task? Do we have to nitpick a post to death? Do we have to run away with random thoughts that add nothing to the discussion? P.S. This isn't directed in particular at any of the gentlemen posting here - lots of good people. But...really?

Canoerebel -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 3:27:33 AM)
P.P.S. And I'm adding to the mayhem by being cranky! Long night last night; hard day today. I'll get some sleep, feel better in the morning, and hope I didn't give offense to any gents who unintentionally crossed words with my thoughts....or something like that.

Canoerebel -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 3:39:34 AM)
I first saw this picture Of Mikuma at Midway when I was about ten years old. I've never been able to get it out of my mind. Utter devastation. [image]local://upfiles/8143/614CF046745C46CE96477E0221AECAA0.jpg[/image]

Canoerebel -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 3:52:23 AM)
USS New Orleans makes Tulagi harbor under her own power. I don't recall seeing this photo until I was in my 30s or later. Most of the "unforgettable" WWII photos I've seen in my life were early - in my teens or twenties. It becomes more rare to stumble across an unforgettable one later in life, because we've seen so many of the photos by then. [image]local://upfiles/8143/72F151C8C0C84210B986828B33B15AAA.jpg[/image]

Canoerebel -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 3:56:12 AM)
For Americans, probably in the running for most memorable photo ever. Certainly in the discussion. [image]local://upfiles/8143/D1A651A5BA324155834C789704C6AC40.jpg[/image]

Canoerebel -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 4:01:07 AM)
One of my earliest "Oh man" moments was seeing this photo around age 10. The kind of photo that helps a youngster understand that war is awful. [image]local://upfiles/8143/8C0C8C293D6A41BC8986BB4C5FEE7C56.jpg[/image]

Canoerebel -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 4:04:59 AM)
Certainly made an impression when I first saw this photo. At the time I was a youngster and had no idea there was controversy about MacArthur and that heroes could be flawed. [image]local://upfiles/8143/EF399D77F2A8442B9BF80B72610971F2.jpg[/image]

Canoerebel -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 4:05:46 AM)
Shaw explodes at Pearl Harbor. Unforgettable. [image]local://upfiles/8143/73D7CEAF0ED046F9A27B96E5215F009A.jpg[/image]

spence -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 4:07:14 AM)
The picture certainly shows that war is awful but maybe it also shows that there is a time to take sides when it happens because it will happen.

spence -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 4:09:39 AM)
For us Americans the picture of the raising of the flag on Mt Suribachi is the ONE iconic photo.

warspite1 -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 5:25:18 AM)
quote: For Americans, probably in the running for most memorable photo ever. Certainly in the discussion. quote: For us Americans the picture of the raising of the flag on Mt Suribachi is the ONE iconic photo. Well Spence plenty of Americans have already posted and not included or mentioned this photo [;)]. But a forumite mentioned it as one of his possibles (JeffK - Australian) and one posted it as the iconic picture to represent the Pacific War (me - British). Go figure. [image]local://upfiles/28156/30F097C5EC534EAB9855921BD0B1BB6D.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 6:16:19 AM)
For an iconic picture of the war in the Far East (purely from a British perspective) this one sadly says much. [image]local://upfiles/28156/DD441DF1F09F471F88CEFC3C4DDCC002.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 6:24:11 AM)
But for me, and despite all I've said previously, perhaps on reflection, the picture below brings together most of the thoughts raised by posters previously: the US initially as being attacked but ultimately winning, not forgetting the Japanese contribution, but above all this image sears into our conscience, for it truly conveys to one, the sheer horror, the utter futility, the enormous waste of money that is.......a Michael Bay movie [image]local://upfiles/28156/BDE09A76A1C54C4B986A681012AC4D38.jpg[/image]

John 3rd -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 1:48:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lecivius . [image]local://upfiles/26061/5499165348D0468C847B9DA6B3E30A9F.jpg[/image] Beautiful picture for Karate Kid II if I don't miss my mark.

John 3rd -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 1:49:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel I first saw this picture Of Mikuma at Midway when I was about ten years old. I've never been able to get it out of my mind. Utter devastation. [image]local://upfiles/8143/614CF046745C46CE96477E0221AECAA0.jpg[/image] This one does it for me. The flag raising is incredible. Put them together and you see it all.

Lecivius -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 2:09:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John 3rd quote: ORIGINAL: Lecivius . [image]local://upfiles/26061/5499165348D0468C847B9DA6B3E30A9F.jpg[/image] Beautiful picture for Karate Kid II if I don't miss my mark. Maybe, I dunno. I know I still sit watching sunsets, thinking on times past, people gone.

BBfanboy -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 3:08:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lecivius quote: ORIGINAL: John 3rd Beautiful picture for Karate Kid II if I don't miss my mark. Maybe, I dunno. I know I still sit watching sunsets, thinking on times past, people gone. OK, sunset during WWII - USS Texas on convoy duty .... [image]local://upfiles/35791/EE506E5C75B84E03965B86BDCE967B78.jpg[/image]

witpqs -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 3:34:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 But for me, and despite all I've said previously, perhaps on reflection, the picture below brings together most of the thoughts raised by posters previously: the US initially as being attacked but ultimately winning, not forgetting the Japanese contribution, but above all this image sears into our conscience, for it truly conveys to one, the sheer horror, the utter futility, the enormous waste of money that is.......a Michael Bay movie You are a very bad man! [sm=fighting0056.gif] [:D]

mind_messing -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 5:04:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 What does the OP see as the iconic image if the Pacific War? For the American aspect of the war, it has to be this one. A spit of sand that's became the forward base for a massive naval force overnight. [image]http://ulithimarineconservation.ucsc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/PxiAtuv.jpg[/image] For the Japanese, I think it of this one: [image]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/0b/e7/b50be7b8eccf31018c615848dfa9033a.jpg[/image] The euphoria of drubbing the worlds great powers in battle for six months straight, and the seeds of the hubris that would bring the Empire crashing down four years later.

Lokasenna -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 6:11:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: spence quote: Unless someone has a picture of hell, I doubt we will ever have a definitive picture of this or any other war. Admittedly not the Pacific in WWII but this guy did an OK job. [image]local://upfiles/9007/CF33F0A6F8C04C468DB3552304796377.jpg[/image] The looks like WW1 to me. If you want a graphic description of that particular hell, check out Dan Carlin's series.

warspite1 -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 6:24:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 But for me, and despite all I've said previously, perhaps on reflection, the picture below brings together most of the thoughts raised by posters previously: the US initially as being attacked but ultimately winning, not forgetting the Japanese contribution, but above all this image sears into our conscience, for it truly conveys to one, the sheer horror, the utter futility, the enormous waste of money that is.......a Michael Bay movie You are a very bad man! [sm=fighting0056.gif] [:D] warspite1 Sorry... [sm=scared0018.gif] [:D]

Skyros -> RE: The definitive picture of the Pacific War? (10/3/2017 8:24:28 PM)
This picture always makes me stop, the look says it all. [image]local://upfiles/1408/0141679A7BD14EDF99ED350553190D64.jpg[/image]

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