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Dirtnap86 -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 12:59:14 PM)

Chinese units have a lot of raw AV, but their lack of armored units and AT weapons mean that if they encounter even stuff as light as the IJA armored cars, they're up the creek with no paddle. Getting them dug into x3 terrain, or any urban terrain means the IJA has to bring divisions or tanks to clear them out.

As far as disablements/destroyed. I think a device or squad has to be disabled before it can be destroyed. If you see lots of disablements, turn after turn, that means the enemy is well supplied and can recover those disablements quickly. It also means they have enough support to do so as well.




BBfanboy -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 2:03:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dirtnap86

Chinese units have a lot of raw AV, but their lack of armored units and AT weapons mean that if they encounter even stuff as light as the IJA armored cars, they're up the creek with no paddle. Getting them dug into x3 terrain, or any urban terrain means the IJA has to bring divisions or tanks to clear them out.

As far as disablements/destroyed. I think a device or squad has to be disabled before it can be destroyed. If you see lots of disablements, turn after turn, that means the enemy is well supplied and can recover those disablements quickly. It also means they have enough support to do so as well.

Given that units can be destroyed in one pass during an overwhelming landing on an atoll, I think they do not have to have the squads disabled first. But in most cases in happens as you suggest - they get ground down with few destroyed squads until the unit has over 50% disablements, and then the destroyed tally starts to rise sharply.




ny59giants -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 4:17:48 PM)

Chinese devices have had production increased by over 50% so it should help.




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 7:20:25 PM)

Feb. 13th, 1942:

The Mauling of Manila has resumed. IJN Hvy CarDiv 3 found and sunk AMC Aramis and DD Mameluck, as they were delivering Kiwi engineers to Suva. Japanese attacks in China began to get more effective. IJA artillery pounds Singapore. British cruisers bombard Moulmein, and hit IJA supply stores. The turn went to Japan.

Pilot losses were light. This is one of the things I check every turn, and try to minimize.


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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 7:21:28 PM)

Air losses were light on both sides, and many of the destroyed Allied planes were in Manila when it got bombarded.

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 7:22:52 PM)

Naval losses for the turn were a costly French AMC, a French DD, and a cargo ship and a sub I scuttled in Manila. Neither would have sailed one hex before sinking.

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 7:34:43 PM)

Lost base: Makassar.


Malaya:

Falken has decided to let his troops at Singapore rest from the constant attacks, and is now using his artillery to soften my troops up. It seems to be working.

Japanese Bombardment attack at Singapore (50,84) DAY ONE

Attacking force 1987 troops, 182 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 1009
Defending force 43379 troops, 524 guns, 310 vehicles, Assault Value = 612

Allied ground losses:
* 115 casualties reported
*** Squads: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled
*** Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
*** Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
*** Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Japanese Bombardment attack at Singapore (50,84) DAY TWO

Attacking force 1987 troops, 182 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 1090
Defending force 43573 troops, 526 guns, 309 vehicles, Assault Value = 620

Allied ground losses:
* 87 casualties reported
*** Squads: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


The DEI:

There is peace and quiet in Palembang. Can't really complain about it, can I?

Amphibious Assault at Makassar (65,106)

Japanese ground losses:
*** Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Japanese Deliberate attack at 67,93 (near Tandjoengselor) DAY ONE

Attacking force 3639 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109
Defending force 1470 troops, 12 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 19
Japanese adjusted assault: 3
Allied adjusted defense: 9
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Japanese ground losses:
* 16 casualties reported
*** Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
* 55 casualties reported
*** Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 7:49:16 PM)

The Philippines:

Manila got to be on the receiving end of naval and artillery bombardments. Not good. The base will fall soon. Yet, there is a cost to pay for the naval rifles vaporizing my troops: 12x resources and 5x heavy industry were damaged, adding to the repair costs of the 20x repair yards that were already damaged.

Night Naval bombardment of Manila at 79,77 DAY ONE

Allied aircraft losses
*** Stearman 75M: 8 damaged, 2 destroyed on ground
*** SOC-1 Seagull: 1 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground
*** O-47A: 6 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground
*** B-10B: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
* BB Mutsu
* BB Nagato
Allied ground losses:
* 572 casualties reported
*** Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 23 disabled
*** Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
*** Guns lost 19 (15 destroyed, 4 disabled)
*** Vehicles lost 12 (4 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 29

Japanese Bombardment attack at Manila (79,77) DAY ONE

Attacking force 756 troops, 73 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 595
Defending force 64122 troops, 523 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 1623

Japanese ground losses:
*** Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
* 24 casualties reported
*** Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Naval bombardment of Manila at 79,77 DAY TWO

Allied aircraft losses
*** O-47A: 1 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground
*** Stearman 75M: 3 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground
*** SOC-1 Seagull: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
* BB Yamashiro
* BB Fuso
* CA Chokai
* CA Maya
Allied ground losses:
* 914 casualties reported
*** Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
*** Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 51 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
*** Guns lost 17 (5 destroyed, 12 disabled)
*** Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Heavy Industry hits 1
Resources hits 3
Manpower hits 1
Fires 2079
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 20
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Japanese Bombardment attack at Manila (79,77) DAY TWO

Attacking force 804 troops, 77 guns, 70 vehicles, Assault Value = 622
Defending force 63465 troops, 519 guns, 206 vehicles, Assault Value = 1613

Japanese ground losses:
*** Guns lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
* 39 casualties reported
*** Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Time to disband the remains of the air forces here. Airfield damage got to 100. Supplies running VERY low now.




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 8:49:35 PM)

China:

Falken's land attacks have begun to hurt. I kept him off balance for a while, but the real grind has just begun. Since I have never been on the receiving end here, I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do. These are my thoughts, though:

- The cities in clear will be lost. Yet, I think it is advantageous to the Allies to delay those losses as much as practicable.
- The real defensive positions are in 3x terrain. I have paired HQs with their subordinate troops to maximize defense.
- The name of the game is supplies. I will fight hard in Burma to delay the closing of the Burma Road.

To sum it all up, I am playing to delay, delay, delay and, when I am done delaying the Japanese advance, I need to find a way to delay it some more.

Japanese Deliberate attack at Chengchow (88,44) DAY ONE

Attacking force 88932 troops, 1011 guns, 290 vehicles, Assault Value = 1303
Defending force 54582 troops, 312 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 707
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2
Japanese adjusted assault: 1166
Allied adjusted defense: 535
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
* 1953 casualties reported
*** Squads: 44 destroyed, 68 disabled
*** Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 21 disabled
*** Engineers: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
*** Guns lost 27 (1 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
* 1789 casualties reported
*** Squads: 92 destroyed, 44 disabled
*** Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 60 disabled
*** Engineers: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
*** Guns lost 44 (7 destroyed, 37 disabled)

Japanese Deliberate attack at Chengchow (88,44) DAY TWO

Attacking force 87349 troops, 1010 guns, 290 vehicles, Assault Value = 1174
Defending force 52560 troops, 305 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 622
Japanese adjusted assault: 989
Allied adjusted defense: 503
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Japanese ground losses:
* 3197 casualties reported
*** Squads: 143 destroyed, 107 disabled
*** Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 45 disabled
*** Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
*** Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
* 2646 casualties reported
*** Squads: 47 destroyed, 77 disabled
*** Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 77 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
*** Guns lost 27 (2 destroyed, 25 disabled)

Japanese Deliberate attack at Pucheng (86,57) DAY ONE

Attacking force 15279 troops, 111 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 451
Defending force 17282 troops, 126 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 472
Japanese adjusted assault: 213
Allied adjusted defense: 357
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Japanese ground losses:
* 262 casualties reported
*** Squads: 4 destroyed, 19 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Allied ground losses:
* 257 casualties reported
*** Squads: 2 destroyed, 39 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
*** Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Japanese Deliberate attack at Chuhsien (88,56) DAY ONE

Attacking force 29135 troops, 256 guns, 74 vehicles, Assault Value = 579
Defending force 20076 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 347
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese adjusted assault: 211
Allied adjusted defense: 427
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Japanese ground losses:
* 1652 casualties reported
*** Squads: 3 destroyed, 121 disabled
*** Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
*** Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
* 505 casualties reported
*** Squads: 2 destroyed, 40 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
*** Guns lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Japanese Deliberate attack at Wuchow (76,57) DAY ONE

Attacking force 18962 troops, 188 guns, 116 vehicles, Assault Value = 399
Defending force 19134 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 426
Japanese adjusted assault: 584
Allied adjusted defense: 235
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Japanese ground losses:
* 1120 casualties reported
*** Squads: 0 destroyed, 91 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
*** Engineers: 4 destroyed, 34 disabled
*** Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
* 655 casualties reported
*** Squads: 8 destroyed, 91 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Japanese Deliberate attack at Wuchow (76,57) DAY TWO

Attacking force 18112 troops, 188 guns, 116 vehicles, Assault Value = 324
Defending force 18371 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 346
Japanese adjusted assault: 444
Allied adjusted defense: 208
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
* 692 casualties reported
*** Squads: 5 destroyed, 84 disabled
*** Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Allied ground losses:
* 903 casualties reported
*** Squads: 28 destroyed, 33 disabled
*** Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
*** Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
*** Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 8:54:18 PM)

Burma:

Besides the low-intensity air war (when both sides sweep different hexes, and there is no CAP, combat is sparse), and the Allied bomber training runs, the one event of note was an Allied naval bombardment of Moulmein. The objective was to knock some steam off the IJA units in Burma by destroying their supply. I believe the mission was successful.

Night Naval bombardment of Moulmein at 55,55 DAY TWO

Allied Ships
* CA Exeter
* CA Cornwall
* CL Belfast
* CL Glasgow
* CL Enterprise

Manpower hits 1
Fires 131
Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 31
Port hits 7
Port fuel hits 2




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/15/2017 9:02:02 PM)

The Pacific:

IJN Hvy CarDiv 3 reappeared near Suva and sank a small transport TF. My mistake, I should have been more careful. Although the combat result shows disabed squads, the whole Eng unit was destroyed.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Suva at 131,161 DAY ONE

Japanese aircraft
*** A6M2 Zero x 20
*** B5N2 Kate x 12
Allied Ships
*** DD Mameluck
*** AMC Aramis

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Suva at 131,161 DAY ONE

Japanese aircraft
*** A6M2 Zero x 31
*** B5N2 Kate x 19
*** D3A1 Val x 20
Allied Ships
*** AMC Aramis, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
*** DD Mameluck, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
* 613 casualties reported
*** Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 37 disabled
*** Engineers: 12 destroyed, 23 disabled
*** Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/16/2017 7:17:58 PM)

Feb 15th, 1942:

News fresh from the grapevine: Chengchow has finally fallen. If intel is to be believed, 1x Manpower, 39x resources, and 39x light industry were damaged.

But not everything is dire news. Once in a while, being a patient hunter pays off. Two days of unescorted IJN naval bomber attacks at Palembang hurt... a lot! Reports state that 23x Nell and 7x Betty were lost to Hurricane CAP last turn.

Will post a more detailed report as soon as I digest the turn.




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (12/29/2017 2:07:30 PM)

Executive summary, Feb 21st, 1942:

Just a heads up. Festivities and relatives from abroad have taken a heavy toll on available time. The game has continued, but my ability to sit and write about it has gone down the drain. Hopefully things will get back to normal after New Year's.

To sum things up, it is now February 21st, and Manila, Singapore and Palembang still hold. Things have been quiet in China since the fall of Chengchow (it was an expensive proposition for Japan). Also, I see my esteemed opponent building up airbases and ports, maybe more than he should... more supply spending... good!

Will try to give more detailed info soon.






Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:14:32 PM)

March 1st, 1942:

Year's end (and visitors from abroad for a month) played havoc with my free time, so I have not updated this in quite a while. Although January and the first week of February will still be full, at the very least I will try to write a bit about how the war is going.

Pilot losses have been kind of light so far, with the exception of last turn, which I will explain in a later post. Last turn I lost 10% of KIA losses so far.

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:18:48 PM)

Plane losses still favor the Allies (and then some). The critical stage seems to have passed, and I now have some plane groups in reserve, not just front line and training. Not where I want to be yet, but slowly getting there.

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:26:17 PM)

A number of minor bases have been lost, but only two major ones have been, and both in China: Chengchow and Wuchow. Chengchow was taken at a cost of much Japanese blood. Wuchow, not so much. After a hiatus, the lead units of the Japanese attack on Loyang have arrived.

Manila is almost out of supply. Naval and air bombardment has seen to it. But naval rifles have also destroyed 15 Res, 8 LI, all 10 HI, and all 20 Repair Yards. Thank you for the idea of holing up in Manila instead of Bataan. Japanese units there are not in the best of shapes, as you can see:

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:28:55 PM)

Singapore still has some supply, as it can only be bombarded by air, not by sea. There is only one IJA Inf Div here that is in good shape. The others, well... see for yourselves:

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:33:39 PM)

Palembang is a stalemate. I do not think attacks will begin again until either Manila or Singapore fall, and the troops there have time to rest a bit before being thrown into the grinder again.

Burma is another stalemate. Allied sweepers control the air, and heavy and medium bombers keep the IJA with their heads down, but that is about it.

There have been no further Japanese advances south of the Solomons, nor in the Central Pacific. My esteemed opponent did take Attu, though, but I have seriously reinforced Adak.




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:37:01 PM)

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John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:39:25 PM)

You cannot leave us just hanging here...




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:42:02 PM)

The one event that bears more detailed description happened last turn. This is a combat report I did not think I’d write in at least 6 months, if not more:

BATTLE OF THE SOLOMON SEA – February 27/28, 1942

It all started last turn, as an IJN TF was spotted one hex east of Green Island. Since it was not expected to be bigger than a CarDiv (2 CVs plus a CVL), orders were given to the US/Aus/NZ carrier fleet 3 hexes SW of Milne Bay to intercept.

The Allied Fleet was composed of:

* TF X: CV Lexington; CAV Melbourne; CA Pensacola, New Orleans, Portland & Australia; CL Perth & St. Louis; 10x USN DD.
* TF Y: CV Saratoga; CAV Wellington; CA Indianapolis, Salt Lake City, Astoria & Canberra; CL Hobart & Helena; 10x USN DD.
* TF Z: CV Enterprise; CLV Charlotte & Jacksonville; BC Chesapeake; CA Minneapolis & San Francisco; CL Leander, Achiles, Phoenix & Jean de Vienne; 10x USN DDs.

And the flattops carried:
* 90x F4F-3
* 45x F4F-3A
* 66x F2A-3
* 99x SBD-3
* 27x SB2U-3

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John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:47:54 PM)

201 Fighters and 126 DB aboard three CVs and three Hybrids. Doesn't look bad from the defensive view. TFs are big with lots of AA firepower for this point in the war.

GOOD LUCK!




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:52:50 PM)

The result was the bloodiest battle in the war up to this point. Please forgive the wall of text, but I can’t take more out without losing content some readers might find interesting.

I guess at this point in the war it is to be expected that the Japanese Attack arrived first. This time the weather helped me, though:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rossel Island at 106,135 DAY ONE
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Japanese aircraft
* A6M2 Zero x 41
* B5N2 Kate x 66
* D3A1 Val x 44
Allied aircraft
* F2A-3 Buffalo x 36
* F4F-3A Wildcat x 23
* F4F-3 Wildcat x 46
* F2A-3 Buffalo x 10
* F2A-3 Buffalo x 10

Japanese aircraft losses

* A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
* B5N2 Kate: 15 destroyed, 7 damaged
* B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
* D3A1 Val: 13 destroyed, 8 damaged
* D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
* F2A-3 Buffalo: 2 destroyed
* F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
* F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
* BC Chesapeake, Bomb hits 3
* CVL Jacksonville, Torpedo hits 1
* CV Enterprise
* CVL Charlotte, Bomb hits 1, on fire

The Enterprise was attacked, but not hit, which was a relief. The Chesapeake should be able to get back home without much trouble. The CLVs, on the other hand:

*** Fuel storage explosion on CVL Charlotte
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Charlotte


Then it was the Allies’ turn to Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rossel Island at 105,136 DAY 1
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Japanese aircraft
* A6M2 Zero x 43
Allied aircraft
* F4F-3A Wildcat x 22
* F4F-3 Wildcat x 44
* SB2U-3 Vindicator x 27
* SBD-3 Dauntless x 99

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses

* F4F-3A Wildcat: 4 destroyed
* F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 destroyed
* SB2U-3 Vindicator: 1 damaged
* SBD-3 Dauntless: 7 damaged
* SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
* CV Amagi, Bomb hits 2, on fire
* CVL Ryukaku, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
* BC Chichibu, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
* BC Ishitaka, Bomb hits 7, on fire
* CVL Nisshin, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
* CA Suzuka, Bomb hits 1
* CL Tokoro, Bomb hits 1
* CA Niitaka, Bomb hits 1
* CV Akagi, Bomb hits 2

No Japanese CAP was destroyed, but at least Allied plane losses were lower than expected. However, damage to the IJN ships was considerable:

*** Ammo storage explosion on CVL Ryukaku
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Ryukaku
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BC Chichibu
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Nisshin


It was then the afternoon of the 27th, and the Allied seamen braced themselves for a second wave of attacks... which never came! The Allies did fly again, though:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rossel Island at 105,136 DAY ONE
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Japanese aircraft
* A6M2 Zero x 50
Allied aircraft
* F4F-3A Wildcat x 15
* F4F-3 Wildcat x 27
* SB2U-3 Vindicator x 27
* SBD-3 Dauntless x 98

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses

* F4F-3A Wildcat: 2 destroyed
* F4F-3 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
* SB2U-3 Vindicator: 1 damaged
* SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese Ships

* BC Ishitaka, Bomb hits 3, on fire
* CV Amagi, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
* CV Akagi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
* CVL Ryukaku, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
* DD Tanikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
* BC Chichibu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
* CA Niitaka, Bomb hits 1
* DD Kagero, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Once again, Japanese CAP does its job without losing any planes, but Allied losses are lower than expected. Damage to Japanese ships is, once again, considerable:

*** Fuel storage explosion on CV Akagi
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Akagi
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Ryukaku
*** Fuel storage explosion on CV Amagi
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Amagi
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BC Chichibu


And then, next day, the airstrikes continued. It was a one-sided battle:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Vangunu at 111,136 DAY TWO
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Japanese aircraft

* A6M2 Zero x 17
Allied aircraft
* F4F-3 Wildcat x 12
* SB2U-3 Vindicator x 27
* SBD-3 Dauntless x 18

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses

* F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
* SB2U-3 Vindicator: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
* SB2U-3 Vindicator: 1 destroyed by flak
* SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
* BC Chichibu, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
* CV Akagi, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
* BC Ishitaka, Bomb hits 2
* DD Akebono, Bomb hits 1

There was CAP, so Akagi was not too damaged to begin with, but there were no other capital ships in the hex, so the previous day’s attacks must have hurt.

*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Akagi
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BC Chichibu


Morning Air attack on TF, near Vangunu at 111,136 DAY TWO
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Japanese aircraft
* A6M2 Zero x 8
Allied aircraft
* F4F-3A Wildcat x 13
* F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
* SBD-3 Dauntless x 51

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses

* F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
* SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships

* BC Ishitaka, Bomb hits 12, on fire
* CV Akagi, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Once again, Japanese naval fighter pilots prove their ability, but they are too few, and the USN bombers do their job.

*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Akagi

Morning Air attack on TF, near Vangunu at 111,136 DAY TWO

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Japanese aircraft
* A6M2 Zero x 3
Allied aircraft
* SBD-3 Dauntless x 22

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses

* SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
* BC Ishitaka, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
* CV Akagi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
* BC Chichibu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Once again there is CAP up, which means Akagi was not terribly damaged before the attack. But the USN bombers score some hits, though.

*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BC Ishitaka
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Akagi
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BC Chichibu


And it continued in the afternoon:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Vangunu at 111,136 DAY TWO
Weather in hex: Overcast

Allied aircraft
* F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
* SB2U-3 Vindicator x 18
* SBD-3 Dauntless x 17

Allied aircraft losses
* SB2U-3 Vindicator: 1 destroyed by flak
* SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Tokoro, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Note that there was no CAP, and that only a CL was attacked.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Vangunu at 111,136
Weather in hex: Overcast

Allied aircraft
* F4F-3A Wildcat x 12
* F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
* SBD-3 Dauntless x 52

Allied aircraft losses
* SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
* CL Tokoro, Bomb hits 1, on fire
* DD Hamakaze, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
* DD Kagero, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
* DD Urakaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Only a CL and DDs were attacked. Hopefuly, nothing larger is still afloat.

*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Tokoro
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Hamakaze
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Kagero
*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Urakaze

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 105,133

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 16

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses

SBD-3 Dauntless: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
* CA Niitaka
* CA Suzuka
* CVL Ryukaku, and is sunk

*** Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Japanese AV

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:57:34 PM)

Aftermath:

I think I got 1x CV, 1-2x CVL, 1-2x BC. There is at least one flat top still afloat one hex east of Woodlark Island, probably crippled.

Damage to USN Charlotte and Jacksonville was relatively light, but they will both withdraw.

QUESTION: should I order the remaining carriers (3x CVs, 2x CAVs) to hunt and sink the remaining enemy carrier? Or should they quit while they are ahead?

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John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 3:59:10 PM)

Damn. That looks like a complete victory in all regards. It is a stinging loss for this early in the war. 2 CV and 2 CVL plus the BC and LBC? Wow.

When I play, I have no issue working with my single CarDivs for the first 4-6 weeks. Considering the Hybrid additions and the Allied proclivity to stack fighters on the CV instead of the TB, I then shift to a PAIR of CarDivs working in unison (4 CV and 2 CVL). Doing that certainly doubles the CAP and, against massed DB, that is a must.

Well done.

SMASH THEM!





Bif1961 -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 4:06:26 PM)

He appears to have had 2 CVs and 2 CVLs, leaving himself exposed to what you did a combined carrier strike with all available carrier assets possible. You did the right thing is taking off useless torpedo planes and replacing them with as many naval fighters, carrier trained, as possible. Though he had you in quality you by more then 3-1 with your CAP out numbered him in quality. Your escort 1.5 to 1 against his CAP was enough to allow your dive bombers the freedom they needed to conduct their strikes as well as any Allied can hope for in early 1942. So in other words a job well done.




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 4:21:52 PM)

@ John 3rd: Aye, it was a victory of unexpected magnitude. It is not only the ships. It is the naval aviators that were taken out of the equation. I could not be happier with the result. My esteemed opponent now has to choose between the DEI and the SW Pacific, as he can't split his carrier forces in two without a lot of risk. This victory might have saved Port Moresby and other bases from the threat of invasion.

@ Bif1961
: This particular scenario allows the Allied player to do just this. I had lost a CV in transit from Pearl to Australia, which was bad, but this victory more than makes up for it. Torpedo squadrons have been training, training, and then training some more, so they will be ready when better planes are available.

Another USN CV is due in less than two weeks, and a British one in two weeks flat. With this result, I can now take the 2x USN CLVs out of the line and do the conversions to full CVLs. I have 2x USN CVEs ready, with 4x more in the conversion pipeline. If I do not suffer a catastrophic loss, I should do OK.

Of course, no plan survives contact with the enemy.




ny59giants -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 4:22:23 PM)

Pursue!!!

However, beware of Rabaul and potential Air HQ there with Nell/Betty with Zero as escort. It could be costly, but only you known how he 'may' be deployed in this area.




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 5:32:54 PM)

Intel says only one land unit in Rabaul, but transports downloading... hmm... decisions, decisions...




BBfanboy -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (1/8/2018 5:36:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kitakami

Intel says only one land unit in Rabaul, but transports downloading... hmm... decisions, decisions...

It is unlikely he has enough to blow through your carrier CAP. Destroying his cripples ( which may include a CV you thought sunk) will halt his ops in this area for some time and allow you to set up and supply defences. That is worth the risk of losing a ship or two.




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