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BBfanboy -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/3/2017 9:56:23 PM)

If his transport ships are still at Singkawang they are not going to make it to Palembang and unload in one turn. If he tries, he might lose a lot of his troops in a partial unload. I know ships unload completely in one turn with the Amphib bonus for Japan, but I think it still requires that at least one phase of ops points is still available.



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/3/2017 10:12:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
If his transport ships are still at Singkawang they are not going to make it to Palembang and unload in one turn. If he tries, he might lose a lot of his troops in a partial unload. I know ships unload completely in one turn with the Amphib bonus for Japan, but I think it still requires that at least one phase of ops points is still available.


if this is so, then I might have a chance. But with 2-day turns I am not certain what will happen. Should he delay his departure from Singkawang for one more turn, I might just make it.

The 251st Recce Bn will arrive this turn, as will the Padang Cdo. The Riouw Cdo is being airlifted from Tandjoengpinang, and only 16 AV are left. But the British 54th Bde. is still 132 miles away via a good road, and the 53rd and 55th are still in Benkoelen.

I did not land at Oosthaven out of fear, and that may have been my undoing. Well, you learn from your mistakes lessons you don't learn from your successes :)



Capt. Harlock -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 3:05:24 AM)

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Second area that worries me is Sumatra, specifically Palembang. My esteemed opponent has over 19k troops assembled in Singkawang, and there is no juiciest target for them than Palembang. The place's defences are not setup yet..


Do you have any Engineer units that can get there? Short of a miracle, you are going to lose Palembang, and Engineer units will help greatly in damaging the Oil facilities so the Japanese will be short for a while.



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 3:10:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
Do you have any Engineer units that can get there? Short of a miracle, you are going to lose Palembang, and Engineer units will help greatly in damaging the Oil facilities so the Japanese will be short for a while.


All I have there is three engineer squads from 113th RAF Adv Base Force. Besides those, the closest ones are in the 54th British Bde, 78 miles away.



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 12:28:49 PM)

Ok... so a bad turn of sorts, and a good turn of sorts...

First, my esteemed opponent decided to cover the landing in Palembang with CardDiv 3 instead of the CVLs, so he shifted the two fleet carriers north... right smack into range of my surface force in the area. Result was one BC sunk, one BB, one BC and one DD damaged (but survivable). I was paying so much attention to Palembang itself, that I left those ships in harm's way. My mistake. My BIG mistake. Now the threat those ships pose is much less, so Falken can be a lot more aggressive.

But... I guess every cloud has a silver lining. He lost far more planes than I did. You sill see the numbers. That is a tempo that Japan can ill afford to keep up. At the start of the game, Japanese airframe production is 130 A6M2, 55 B5N2, 60 D3A1, 22 G3M2, and 50 G4M1. If tracker is correct, Falken so far has lost 138 A6M2, 49 B5N2, 30 D3A1, 47 G3M2, and 114 G4M1! That means he's got no more zeroes than at the start of the war, has gained dive bombers, but has lost a lot more two-engine torpedoes than he's been able to build. Even if he's increased A6M2 production by 1/day (which I don't think so), he would still be in a tight spot.

Anyway, here are the numbers:



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 12:38:59 PM)

Naval losses first. Besides the BC, I also lost 2 TKs that I risked filling with oil in Soerbaja. Another careless mistake. The damaged ships will immediately leave for dock. Let's see if they make it.

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 12:40:59 PM)

This is the damage on the ships. Nothing critical... if they are allowed to leave, that is.

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 12:43:34 PM)

Pilot losses were, for once, MUCH lighter than I expected. Note that all air fighting took place over Allied airspace. I am certain that the Japanese did not fare that well.

Also, although I lost another ace today, the total number of fighter aces increased to 11.



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 12:45:37 PM)

The number of Japanese air losses this past turn was... scary! I wish I could keep it up. Alas, I do not have enough planes to do so. But it is comforting to have at least one turn like this in the first month of the war.

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 12:47:52 PM)

And here are the total air losses at the end of 1941. In this, at least, I am not doing THAT bad.

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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 1:05:29 PM)

Ok... Palembang.

First time as Allies, so I have no idea how to do what I want to do. There are more Allied than Japanese troops in Palembang at this point in time, but his reinforcements will arrive before mine. Thus, I made a decision. All my offensive air in the region has been training... until now. This turn I have ordered EVERYTHING to fly:

- 8 Swordfish 2 were transferred to Palembang, and ordered to attack with torps.
- 24 Wildebeests from Singapore, the same.
- 48 Banshees from Batavia will join in just for fun.
- 63 139WH3 have been ordered to bomb Palembang with those pretty 300-Kg bombs of theirs.
- 24 Hudson I & 16 Blenheim IV have been nicely asked to join in.
- Fighters were scrambled to both provide both CAP and escort.

No plan survives contact with the enemy, of course, but I do hope that enough bombers get through, especially against Palembang, that it makes a difference and I don't lose the base this turn. If I do, well, I tried. If I don't, I might get to keep it for a bit more, and make it a royal pain for my esteemed opponent.

We will see. I just hope air losses are not reversed this turn.

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John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 1:43:45 PM)

Damn...you have shot down a TON of IJN Betty/Nell! I cannot say well done because that would be WRONG. Will give you a HUZZAH instead!



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 1:56:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Damn...you have shot down a TON of IJN Betty/Nell! I cannot say well done because that would be WRONG. Will give you a HUZZAH instead!


Thanks :) I was the first one to be surprised by it!



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 2:23:18 PM)

Jan 1st, 1942

All I can say at this point is that Palembang held for one more turn, although the Japanese 4th Div is now landed. It will be a miracle if I can hold on to the base for much longer.

But training and husbanding forces until the right moment paid off. A number of transports were hit by the Banshees, and the Japanese attack fizzled due to the Allied bombing runs. No enemy fighters opposed the bombers, which helped immensely.

Will write more when I get the turn back.



ny59giants -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 2:25:23 PM)

Where is 18th UK Division?? I thought you were sending her to Palembang.



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 2:28:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Where is 18th UK Division?? I thought you were sending her to Palembang.

Out of fear of the Japanese carriers, I landed it at Benkoelen. That meant taking longer to get to Palembang, but it also meant its transports were not sunk when CarDiv3 sailed north. As things stand, the Recce Rgt is in Palembang, and 54th Bde is one turn from arriving, whith the other 2 Bdes arriving one per turn.



John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 6:29:42 PM)

HOW does he not have ZEROS flying CAP over everything?



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 7:34:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John 3rd
HOW does he not have ZEROS flying CAP over everything?


To tell you the truth, my question since turn one has been... how does he not have Zeros SWEEP over everything?



John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 7:58:15 PM)

Point. He should be CRUSHING your bombers.

Do you like the extra Squadrons of Hurricanes and P-40s in the opening of the Mod? Bet they can seriously help.



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 8:04:54 PM)

I am afraid last turn's bomber runs were a one-time affair... I do not think Falken will make the same mistake twice.
As for the extra squadrons, let me put it this way: besides those in the front lines, plus one I lost in Port Blair, I have TWO British fighter squadrons training in Calcutta. That is a luxury I did not expect to have at this point in the war :)



John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 9:22:51 PM)

[:D]

...but these Mods are ONLY for the JAPANESE...RIGHT???!!!




DOCUP -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 9:33:36 PM)

Your doing a good job, Kitakami.



John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/5/2017 11:53:40 PM)

Darned right DOCUP!



obvert -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/6/2017 9:30:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kitakami

quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd
HOW does he not have ZEROS flying CAP over everything?


To tell you the truth, my question since turn one has been... how does he not have Zeros SWEEP over everything?



Well, by your previous tracker shot I'm thinking his pools are dry for now, since production is still ramping up and there are only (usually) around what, 110 in the pool to start? Maybe less?

Is this mod different, where he should have more to start off?




Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/6/2017 12:59:24 PM)

These are the expected airframe levels for Japan. I did not count the airframes in the squadrons, only the differentials from turn one. Expected production is that, what I would expect it to be. It may be higher or lower, depending on Falken's production strategy, but it should give approximate figures. Note that there have not been any JAAF fighter losses yet. That means about two sentai have been upgraded so far.
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Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/6/2017 1:01:55 PM)

On the other hand, Allied figures are the real ones. You will not a couple of interesting items, I am sure.

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obvert -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/6/2017 2:07:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kitakami

These are the expected airframe levels for Japan. I did not count the airframes in the squadrons, only the differentials from turn one. Expected production is that, what I would expect it to be. It may be higher or lower, depending on Falken's production strategy, but it should give approximate figures. Note that there have not been any JAAF fighter losses yet. That means about two sentai have been upgraded so far.
[image]local://upfiles/6334/E70885CD958D4E35880561B1A9A12C83.jpg[/image]


I would not expect it to be so high for any of these models. Since he'll be adding some coming from R & D it would be somewhat reckless to go this high this ealry for any of these IMHO.

My top guess for A6M2 is around 120, and 30 for the IJN bombers.

Oscars though could be up to 100, depending on his commitment to the model for next versions being researched.

Also, it does take some time to ramp this up. The first month is not producing nearly this many planes, and probably not until February are factories all where he wants them in daily output.



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/6/2017 3:39:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: obvert
I would not expect it to be so high for any of these models. Since he'll be adding some coming from R & D it would be somewhat reckless to go this high this ealry for any of these IMHO.

My top guess for A6M2 is around 120, and 30 for the IJN bombers.

Oscars though could be up to 100, depending on his commitment to the model for next versions being researched.

Also, it does take some time to ramp this up. The first month is not producing nearly this many planes, and probably not until February are factories all where he wants them in daily output.

You are probably right on the A6M2, although production starts at 130, so that is probably what it is now. I also agree on the Ki-43-Ic. With all 4 factories repairing one point per day, production could be all the way up to 150. It is probably less, but 120 would not be strange. My point with the Ki-43-Ic was that I have seen none yet, so my esteemed opponent must be planning something.

It is in bomber production that I disagree. B5N2 factories start at 55, with 5 expansions already queued, while B3A1 factories start at 45 with 15 expansions already queued. G3M2 production starts at 22, and G4M1 production starts at 50, so they could have been left at that, although I would do nice, round numbers: 30 and 60. All of that for a cost of 38k supplies.

Now, regarding the Ki-21-IIa, again you are probably right. 30 is more than enough while you wait for the Ki-49. Production starts at 22 planes/month.

One thing about this mod: with less strategic reserves, and more initial production, Japan MUST use its extra assets to seize the resources she needs, or the economy will crash. The name of the game I am playing is delay, delay, delay. A few days here, another few days there (something I could not do in Hong Kong) is what I am aiming at right now. That, and attrite his pilots as much as I can, while preserving as much of my naval assets as I can.



John 3rd -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/6/2017 4:05:31 PM)

That is the EXACT strategy you should play. Japan is up against it and anything you can do to damage and/or delay is a great thing.



Kitakami -> RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? (11/6/2017 4:50:51 PM)

I don't have the turn with me yet, but Lt.Cdr. E.V.St.J. Morgan, RN, has been awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for his gallantry during active operations against the enemy at sea:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Oosthaven at 46,97, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Tosa, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1
CL Jintsu
DD Asashio, Shell hits 1
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio

Allied Ships
DD Encounter, Shell hits 1

We have no word as to the shape HMS Encounter is in, but there are no reports of her sinking either.



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