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ivanov -> Soviets and smoke (11/25/2017 1:18:08 AM)

This was discussed long time ago but I just want to make sure: is there any use at all of the smoke for the Soviets? All NATO armies use the thermal imaging, so they can see through the smoke. But is there maybe some partial cover that the Soviets may gain from using the smoke?

As the things stand now, smoke is probably the most effective NATO asset, that allows the units become completely stealth for a while. In the future I'd like to see the effects of the smoke less absolute. It should provide the Soviets with some level of protection and the protection against the units without thermal imaging, shouldn't be 100%.



cbelva -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/25/2017 2:34:18 PM)

Yes, thermal sight and smoke is a game changer for NATO. And yes, we are working to improve the thermal/smoke issue, but it probably won't be seen until we get to Southern Storm since it is going to take a rewrite of part of the code.



ivanov -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/25/2017 3:25:12 PM)

Sounds good. Thanks for the update!



CapnDarwin -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/25/2017 4:05:21 PM)

Smoke is a full LOS blocker between units on the same level. In hex smoke with a unit is partially obstructing. Not all NATO units have Thermal Sights.



ivanov -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/25/2017 6:36:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CapnDarwin

In hex smoke with a unit is partially obstructing.


Good to know, I wasn't aware of that.



Panzerpanic -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/28/2017 4:14:26 PM)

I wonder, do the laser range finder work through smoke? There could be a penalty for the unit that shoot through the smoke.



WildCatNL -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/28/2017 8:20:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Panzerpanic
I wonder, do the laser range finder work through smoke? There could be a penalty for the unit that shoot through the smoke.


The laser range finder works through smoke, but is less effective than in unobfuscated situations.

The game applies penalties for spotting/shooting through smoke, with accuracy bonuses for laser range finders, which in turn can be reduced when the target has laser warning receivers or is capable of deploying vehicle smoke.

William



CapnDarwin -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/28/2017 9:56:36 PM)

Thanks William.



Panzerpanic -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/29/2017 12:58:40 PM)

Thanks for the information! Now i will have to test if that penalty is worth my tank not returning fire (does not seems worth to me!)

On a different matter, do somebody know if the Canadian Leo1 had any thermals in the cold war?



CapnDarwin -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/29/2017 4:38:04 PM)

Canadian Leo1s only had night/image intensifier sights in the 80s. No thermals.



Panzerpanic -> RE: Soviets and smoke (11/29/2017 5:01:34 PM)

Thanks for the awnser and good to know. Seems that fighting as a Canadian in Southern storm against USSR will be tought but we wil use guts and cunning to acheive victory!



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