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VilleYrjola -> Attack as a single unit or group (12/12/2017 1:04:05 PM)

Hey

Just bought this game and been dipping mee feet in for a few days now. I noticed that in a tutorial scenario when you plan your first attack as instructed in the tutorial document in the hex 5, 37 (NK 6th div 15th infantry regiment and 5th artillery regiment) you're supposed to order singe group attack. However the you're only allowed to order single unit attack. Why is this and what dictates when I can order group attacks and single unit attacks? Especially when both units in the said hex are able to attack on their own.



cpt flam -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/12/2017 1:24:37 PM)

from my small expérience, you must order attack separately between (range and close)
ex: 2 HQ or Art with range can attack solo or stack
2 units in same hex can do the same thing



Oberst_Klink -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/12/2017 7:19:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rosmarus

Hey

Just bought this game and been dipping mee feet in for a few days now. I noticed that in a tutorial scenario when you plan your first attack as instructed in the tutorial document in the hex 5, 37 (NK 6th div 15th infantry regiment and 5th artillery regiment) you're supposed to order singe group attack. However the you're only allowed to order single unit attack. Why is this and what dictates when I can order group attacks and single unit attacks? Especially when both units in the said hex are able to attack on their own.

If I may, and do allow me to apologise, point you to my tutorials?

Tutorial '41: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4382552
Tutorial '42: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4387818
Tutorial '43: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4390285
Tutorial '43 - Combat: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4394374
Tutorial '44: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4397183

I do require feedback though, +/- alike.

Thanks :)

Klink, Oberst



Meyer1 -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/12/2017 11:44:57 PM)

You can order a " singe group attack" when you have several units on the same hex, so you order the attack to several units at once. Is not gonna be different if you order the attack to each unit one at a time, is just something that would save you some mouse clicks, is the same as "group move" vs "single unit move" for moving units.



barkhorn45 -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/13/2017 4:13:17 AM)

use the attack planner



VilleYrjola -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/13/2017 12:31:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Meyer1

You can order a " singe group attack" when you have several units on the same hex, so you order the attack to several units at once. Is not gonna be different if you order the attack to each unit one at a time, is just something that would save you some mouse clicks, is the same as "group move" vs "single unit move" for moving units.


Yes, this I understand, but I'm trying to figure out why in this case the game does not allow me to order group attack even though there are two units in the same hex.



Oberst_Klink -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/13/2017 1:28:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rosmarus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Meyer1

You can order a " singe group attack" when you have several units on the same hex, so you order the attack to several units at once. Is not gonna be different if you order the attack to each unit one at a time, is just something that would save you some mouse clicks, is the same as "group move" vs "single unit move" for moving units.


Yes, this I understand, but I'm trying to figure out why in this case the game does not allow me to order group attack even though there are two units in the same hex.

Can you just dump the .SAL file, zipped of course, here? I'll have a look.

Klink, Oberst



Meyer1 -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/13/2017 3:46:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rosmarus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Meyer1

You can order a " singe group attack" when you have several units on the same hex, so you order the attack to several units at once. Is not gonna be different if you order the attack to each unit one at a time, is just something that would save you some mouse clicks, is the same as "group move" vs "single unit move" for moving units.


Yes, this I understand, but I'm trying to figure out why in this case the game does not allow me to order group attack even though there are two units in the same hex.

Perhaps one of the unit don't have enough movement points to perform the attack, or the terrain is not suitable for that unit...



larryfulkerson -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/13/2017 4:46:36 PM)

They were on strike because they felt they were being treated unfairly. The CO had to go talk to
them and it turned out that they had just gotten off 24 hours of overnight postings and needed
some sleep and for "some reason" they were about to be ordered back out in the field without a hot
meal or anything. The CO said he would take care of it and left. Then 30 minutes later the
orders came down from above to stand down. So they did.



VilleYrjola -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/13/2017 7:40:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rosmarus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Meyer1

You can order a " singe group attack" when you have several units on the same hex, so you order the attack to several units at once. Is not gonna be different if you order the attack to each unit one at a time, is just something that would save you some mouse clicks, is the same as "group move" vs "single unit move" for moving units.


Yes, this I understand, but I'm trying to figure out why in this case the game does not allow me to order group attack even though there are two units in the same hex.

Can you just dump the .SAL file, zipped of course, here? I'll have a look.

Klink, Oberst

Here you go, hex 5,37.



Meyer1 -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/13/2017 11:06:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rosmarus

Here you go, hex 5,37.

OK, looks like a little bug: when you have an artillery unit along with other unit in the same hex, the "group" order does not appear. Now, if you add a third unit the order is available. Tested with another scenario and is the same.



VilleYrjola -> RE: Attack as a single unit or group (12/14/2017 9:13:18 AM)

Okay, that's nice to know. I was leaning towards it being a bug or it having something to do with the other unit being artillery.



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