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cpt flam -> Directive 21 (12/28/2017 7:26:29 AM)

I will begin from turn 3
Pictures will be from beginning of turn
AGN first closing to Riga
18 Army will have to liberate Baltic States
Same time rest of the group will go toward Pskov

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cpt flam -> RE: Directive 21 (12/28/2017 7:40:53 AM)

i'm currently playing turn 13 so will try to show quickly first part
then AGC
3rd Panzer Army is located in the north
Minsk can be seen on the right of the picture
in the center some congestion of the roads, i will have to dispatch armies later
main goals are Minsk, then Smolensk
Kav division have object to clear Pripat marsh under the river

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cpt flam -> RE: Directive 21 (12/28/2017 7:49:09 AM)

last for this time
AGS
6 army progress between the marsh and 1st PzA
11 army must join Hungary and keep contact with 1st PzA
a lot of fights with Armored corps soviet from the beginning
they must have been on local reserve on turn 1
the first week saw more than 1500 aircrafts destroyed

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Directive 21 (12/28/2017 8:14:37 AM)

quote:

the first week saw more than 1500 aircrafts destroyed

Way to go!! You 'da man.




cpt flam -> Turn 4, july begin (12/28/2017 2:45:33 PM)

some news from the north
Riga has been captured and with luck bridge was not destroyed
this give me Polizei & 93 ID
38 Korp will have to clear up north helped by Sicherung Div

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 4, july begin (12/28/2017 2:52:04 PM)

3rd Panzer Army come in contact at Minsk
some fights are all ready prepared
troops behind the front are part of 9 Army positioning to new way
some care must be taken with allies aircrafts, they can be 2 models together. In this case, i reduced their range to the minor one


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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 4, july begin (12/28/2017 2:57:55 PM)

same thing in the south, some clash to come
Stalin line is occupied partially and will not be a walk over
Romania and Hungary awake, their job will be to cross the river and go toward Odessa
We will see later if they can cross it

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cpt flam -> Turn 5, july 6 41 (12/29/2017 8:39:06 AM)

not much advance in the north
some cleaning & supply for Panzer corps
in the center many bridges from Minsk are destroyed
i could not take the city

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 5, july 6 41 (12/29/2017 8:42:46 AM)

in the far south
Prut river has been crossed by part of 11 Army
Hungarian cavalry is pushing NKVD unit in north east
other units are Rumanian

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cpt flam -> Turn 6, july 9 41 (12/30/2017 8:55:01 AM)

I will go from north to south
some cleaning actually on the left
28 corps will have to deal with paratroopers
a Supply dump is visible in Riga
next one is at Pskov

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 6, july 9 41 (12/30/2017 8:59:36 AM)

Minsk has fallen and i had to use some engineers to repair the bridge
this give me a garrison and an Infantry division
all ready having some supply problems[:@]
moving & fights use a lot

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 6, july 9 41 (12/30/2017 9:04:10 AM)

further south Stalin Line is broken in his south
next objectives are Polone, Berdychiv and Korosten to get reinforcements

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 6, july 9 41 (12/30/2017 9:09:27 AM)

from north to south we have
54 German corps
III Rumanian corps
XI Rumanian corps
V Rumanian corps + 60 Motorized Division leading to cross the Dniestr
SW are Bulgarian going back home (not activated yet)

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cpt flam -> Turn 7, july 13 41 (1/1/2018 10:01:08 AM)

in the center
all the bridges around Minsk are repaired
in the north we are facing a NKVD division
the 2 others are partly surrounded
i have less speed than Larry as i prefer to have a good supply if possible
this will create me some problems later

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 7, july 13 41 (1/1/2018 10:05:02 AM)

in the south Kiev become targeting
i will try to wrap a part of the front
otherwise part of Karelian front awake

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Turn 7, july 13 41 (1/1/2018 11:28:32 AM)

quote:

Original: cpt flam
I have less speed than Larry as i prefer to have a good supply if possible
this will create me some problems later.

Doing your operations in good supply is to be desired I understand, but it's
been my experience that the Axis forces are in a foot-race with the Soviets
to get as far to the east as possible before the mud seasons start because
precious little progress will be made after the first fall. Expect to have
to fall back during the first winter, I think. Some progress can still be
made in the southern parts of the front lines. And it's been my experience
that the Soviet side get's several boat-loads of troops and material soon
after they are killed and it's only a couple of turns to get the tired units
railed to Moscow where they may rest for a turn before Elmer ships them back
out to the front. One of the best defenses against the Axis units is the
"Robin Hood" defense where you just pull everybody to the east as fast as
possible, destroy the bridges behind you, and be meanwhile building a proper
front lines somewhere between the retreating units and the Soviet reserves.
Say around Orsha and Gomel. That way they have the manpower and the forts
enough to stand their places in front lines. Especially backed up by a lot
of the best arty in the world at the time. So you need to get there before
they have built up properly, while they are still relatively sparse and
weak and haven't dug in a lot. Russians are experts in digging in especially
in hexes that have some engineering equipment/troops present.

I've seen the air shock value change rapidly in the early game period so it's
up to the Axis player to take advantage of the air shock diffference while he
can. Say the first three turns or so. The idea is to shoot down as many
Soviet planes as possible ( three-dot attacks ) or better yet is airfield
strikes to bomb them on the ground. The idea is to balance the killing of
enemy units and the resting of the bombers.

The Finns are going to need the Axis side to dispense with the Soviet BB's
near Leningrad before they can mount any sucessful attacks close to the
stop line. Stuka's are good for that mission but they will need escorts
as they are fragile.

Also, pay attention to the cost of entering hexes because of the BTS cost
that may be there. I get lazy and my units don't get to move as far as
they could. Try to get as many rounds of combat per turn as you can.
I've seen round 7 only once but several rounds per turn are possible. I
usually try to spend 30% on the first and subsequent rounds with the 4th
round being the "clean-up" round where all attacks can proceed reguardless
of the time cost.

I see you making some good moves, good for you. And I like how you don't
get on rambling writing where you try to cover everything. Short and concise,
I like that. Keep up the good work.




cpt flam -> Turn 8, july 16 41 (1/1/2018 5:01:41 PM)

Thanks Larry for your kind words
in the north a motorized corps is closing to Pskov
1st Panzer, Totenkopf & Motorized division
23rd corps arrived to Parnu, going to Talinn

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 8, july 16 41 (1/1/2018 5:05:18 PM)

center now
in the north of the picture, there is a Panzer corps composed of 1 Panzer & 2 Motorized
the Berezina is crossed
we are getting closer to Smolensk

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 8, july 16 41 (1/1/2018 5:09:06 PM)

finally to the south
Polonne and Berdychiv were liberated
reinforcement will arrive later: turn 12 & 11
next closer is Korosten

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cpt flam -> Turn 9, july 20 41 (1/2/2018 9:54:14 AM)

some news from Karelian Front
163 Infantry division just arrived in position
other Finnish corps activate on turn 12


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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 9, july 20 41 (1/2/2018 9:57:56 AM)

in the north Pskov has been taken
2 Tank divisions must be finished (part of a Mechanized corp)
the other (16-11) is part of a Combined Army

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 9, july 20 41 (1/2/2018 10:03:11 AM)

in the south Zhitomir is taken
along the march we have 6 Army
then in black 1st Panzer Army
followed by Hungarian corp (green)
we finish with 17 Army

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 9, july 20 41 (1/2/2018 10:06:38 AM)

farther south
Dniestr is crossed
4th Rumanian Army is moving toward Odessa
i try to have small map in accordance


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cpt flam -> Turn 10, july 23 41 (1/2/2018 4:45:39 PM)

in the center two more units are isolated in front of the Dnepr
units are in contact with Vitebsk, Orsha & Mogilev

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 10, july 23 41 (1/2/2018 4:48:08 PM)

south with a larger view
there is a pocket with 3 Mountain Divisions and an ART

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cpt flam -> Turn 11, july 27 41 (1/3/2018 9:26:06 AM)

actually i try to get closer of my game time (playing turn 17)
in Karelia moves are good
7 Corps will give aid to the 2nd when it will activate

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 11, july 27 41 (1/3/2018 9:30:25 AM)

in the north Talinn is liberated
the fleet has been damaged by an ambush from Talinn battery
not much progress around Pskov as big units are disturbing
up to now Soviets are fighting by ART much

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 11, july 27 41 (1/3/2018 9:34:00 AM)

in the south
view from the Panzer fist
flank of the Russian front is made of depleted units
in front of armor strength is a division of 5 Shock and 2 PARA brigade

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cpt flam -> RE: Turn 11, july 27 41 (1/3/2018 9:39:44 AM)

farther south from north to the coast we find
30 Corp (German)
III Rumanian corp (3 XX + 1 III armor)
XI " " " ( 2 X )
60 Motorized XX
II Rumanian corp (2 XX + 1 X Cavalry)
behind are 2 Siege ART with range of 7 & 12

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cpt flam -> Turn 12, july 30 41 (1/4/2018 9:56:30 AM)

our friends (Finns) begin their action toward Leningrad
in the north i had possibility for some exploitation

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