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Ticonderoga60 -> Test for "LAG" (1/9/2018 12:14:56 PM)
I did a test. El Alamein scenario. After several turns, the lag increased exponentially each turn. After 6 turns of play, the lag reached 30-35 seconds! Then I did a test: I turned off the PC, I turned it back on and I uploaded TOTH again. The lag now lowers to 5 seconds (instead 30-35)! It is as if the computer memory was filled round after shift without emptying. Peter, is it possible for the game to constantly allocate memory without empty the RAM?

Hailstone -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/9/2018 3:36:50 PM)
My experience is quite different. The scenarios with lag problems that I have saved are repeatable regardless of restarting my PC. Every time I reload a saved laggy game the delays just pick up from where they left off when I saved the game. Never found any difference with restarts.[&:]

Peter Fisla -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/9/2018 4:32:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ticonderoga60 I did a test. El Alamein scenario. After several turns, the lag increased exponentially each turn. After 6 turns of play, the lag reached 30-35 seconds! Then I did a test: I turned off the PC, I turned it back on and I uploaded TOTH again. The lag now lowers to 5 seconds (instead 30-35)! It is as if the computer memory was filled round after shift without emptying. Peter, is it possible for the game to constantly allocate memory without empty the RAM? It's the LOS and FOW processing that takes the hit, these two processes are very CPU demanding. I have optimized both functions to get about 45% performance improvement in the UPDATE4. Are you playing with UPDATE4 + Beta 1.0.82 patch ( posted here, http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4384334&mpage=3&key= Post 74 form me).

Ticonderoga60 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/9/2018 10:20:40 PM)
No Peter. I haved 1.0.81. Tomorrow try with 1.0.82. Thanks for the moment.

Peter Fisla -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 2:51:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ticonderoga60 No Peter. I haved 1.0.81. Tomorrow try with 1.0.82. Thanks for the moment. The 1.0.82 addresses some old CPUs not being able to run 1.0.81. So if you are ok with the released UPDATE4 (meaning your CPU can run build 1.0.81) then you are up to date and don’t really need 1.0.82.

Ticonderoga60 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 11:38:31 AM)
So, after installing 1.0.82 the situation is as follows: El alamein, (lOS quality low): turn 7: 5-6 seconds (very acceptable) turn 8: 12-14 seconds turn 9: 16-20 seconds The situation has improved compared to 1.0.81 However, I turned off the PC (Hailstone: switched off and not simply restarted) and switched on again I uploaded the saved file and the lag is back to 6 seconds. Evidently, something in TOTH progressively fills the RAM, worsening performance as the game continues. However, if they were 6-7 seconds, it would still be excellent. Peter, a bug: AFI managed by the AI can interdict player's broken units Thanks for the attention. TOTH always remains a masterpiece! In game programming, one of the most difficult, if not impossible, things is AI management! Actually level of IA is not excellent but is good. I enjoy very well!

Ticonderoga60 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 11:48:00 AM)
Ops! IA AFV are BU!

Peter Fisla -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 12:23:00 PM)
Each time AI plays a segment, the AI processing will different as each time the AI thinks slightly differently. Also in Windows 8 and 10 the performance testing with the game will report different numbers as the windows os by itself does things on its own so the environment is never the same either.

Ticonderoga60 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 12:26:05 PM)
About bug Peter?Is really a bug? I think yes.

rico21 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 1:17:17 PM)
The mainly lag is the distance between AI units and Victory points. More than twenty hexes is too many. And the other hand, If AI unit has to choice between several victory points, it's worse. Howewer...[:D]

Peter Fisla -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 2:22:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ticonderoga60 About bug Peter?Is really a bug? I think yes. Sorry, what bug?

zakblood -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 2:45:59 PM)
might be better to share a report on your system spec tbh, as not had the issues myself and play on an old test system quote: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2700K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.5GHz Memory: 16384MB RAM User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent) System DPI Setting: 144 DPI (150 percent) Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 Dedicated Memory: 4062 MB Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz) 920 x 1080(p) How to get a DirectX Diagnostic file: 1. click on "START" 2. click "run" 3. type in "dxdiag" and click "OK" 4. check through the tabs and perform all tests 5. click "Save all Information..." and save the text file to a location of your choice We prefer that DxDiag files be posted as message attachments rather than pasted into the body of the post. once the report has been made, just attach it to your post with first adding the file to a zip, which is then permitted to attach to the forum

rico21 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 3:16:03 PM)
Is it serious doctor?[:D]

Ticonderoga60 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 4:39:01 PM)
BU AFV managed by the AI can interdict player's broken units. This isn't correct

UP844 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 6:20:47 PM)
I think this is another feature (like radioless, drone-directed OBA) aimed at providing some help for the poor AI. A human player can also make use of the advantages of being CE (better accuracy, AAMG fire, better road movement rate). Once the Panzers were killed, the CE Stuarts in Alamein slaughtered German infantry with ease :D. On the other hand, I think teaching the AI how to evaluate when it is better being CE rather than BU would be a major issue.

Peter Fisla -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/10/2018 7:19:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ticonderoga60 BU AFV managed by the AI can interdict player's broken units. This isn't correct I will look into it, you have a saved game that could help me.

Ticonderoga60 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/11/2018 9:23:03 AM)
No, I haven't in this moment. UP, I agree with you. It is not a big deal. Also in El Alamein, the English Stuart has killed two broken teams ... It is also true that the AI does not use the fast movement, which could help him win on several occasions. Peter, I noticed one thing: an AI squad used Molotov against my PzIII. There is a shadow on the target hexagon. Is it maybe smoke?

Peter Fisla -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/11/2018 11:37:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ticonderoga60 No, I haven't in this moment. UP, I agree with you. It is not a big deal. Also in El Alamein, the English Stuart has killed two broken teams ... It is also true that the AI does not use the fast movement, which could help him win on several occasions. Peter, I noticed one thing: an AI squad used Molotov against my PzIII. There is a shadow on the target hexagon. Is it maybe smoke? Do you know at least what buttoned up vehicle was firing vs the broken unit as it routed? There is no Molotov in the game, only Molotov projector.

rico21 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/11/2018 11:42:03 AM)
I was reproduce the case... [image]local://upfiles/53841/69BFE3D1D66F438EBBE3F66612B4EF36.jpg[/image]

rico21 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/11/2018 11:43:08 AM)
The file only for Peter eyes...[:D]

Peter Fisla -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/11/2018 1:47:43 PM)
Thanks Rico21 for the save. I have reviewed the case and I have to say That this NOT a bug, an AFV that is buttoned up cannot interdict enemy broken unit using its main armament. However, the AFV machine guns do not have this restriction. This feature is working ok.

Ticonderoga60 -> RE: Test for "LAG" (1/11/2018 2:25:48 PM)
ok. The molotov projector was used in Rico's Dacha, not El Alamein. Ok, Peter, isn't a bug. Thank for explanation.

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