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KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/19/2018 10:48:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sugar

According to your reports, 8 players are not playing any matches, and another 3 are temporarely out of duty. A deadline could be motivating I guess, and after finishing the first tourney anotherone could start with new hopes.


Summer is summer. All things considered participation is not that bad. Broadcasting your availability helps though because not everyone monitor the first page of the thread.

Maybe if you promise to go easy on them or fight with one hand behind you back you can convince someone from the second level to challenge you? [8D] I suspect some people on the second level are waiting for you to be locked in a game to be able to challenge each other to advance. Can't blame them really. [:'(]



Sugar -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/19/2018 11:35:33 PM)

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Summer is summer.
Oh well, forgot about that, good point.

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I suspect some people on the second level are waiting for you to be locked in a game to be able to challenge each other to advance.

Aren't they allowed to play on their own lvl?

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Maybe if you promise to go easy on them or fight with one hand behind you back you can convince someone from the second level to challenge you?
It`s not so much about me, but this system is a bit restrictive, don't you think?

Alltogether I guess the goals are already achieved: the balancing seems to be satisfying, and this kind of ranking could be the base for a championship tourney with group stage and subsequently KO. This way a tourney would provide limited numbers matches and timelines.






KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/20/2018 12:59:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sugar

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I suspect some people on the second level are waiting for you to be locked in a game to be able to challenge each other to advance.

Aren't they allowed to play on their own lvl?

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Maybe if you promise to go easy on them or fight with one hand behind you back you can convince someone from the second level to challenge you?
It`s not so much about me, but this system is a bit restrictive, don't you think?

Alltogether I guess the goals are already achieved: the balancing seems to be satisfying, and this kind of ranking could be the base for a championship tourney with group stage and subsequently KO. This way a tourney would provide limited numbers matches and timelines.



They are allowed to challenge at same level only when they run out of upstairs opponent, precisely so that people in your situation see more action. In theory anyway. [;)]

The pyramid system ain't perfect (I'd probably do a simpler ladder were I to do it again) but it does have advantages over brackets because it allows less down time for active player (well except those at the top). With a bracket you have to wait for your next opponent, which can be a long time because the pace of play from players to players can widely vary.

I'm not too hung up on tourney duration mostly because it's more to match people on similar skill level than crowning any 'king'. Now that we have some pyramid steps established, I don't really want to start it over. I do wish that people on the second step would be a bit more on the ball to try to ascend to the next step. [:)]



MrLongleg -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/20/2018 6:43:19 PM)

New game startet: pjg100 (Axis) vs MrLongleg (Allies)




KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/20/2018 6:51:16 PM)

YohanTM, Rannug61, IrishGuards, BPINisBack any of you guys want to challenge the Sugaryman?



BPINisBACK -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/21/2018 6:53:06 AM)

You mean to be tortured by Sugar?
[:D][:D][:D]



Sugar -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/21/2018 7:00:32 AM)

Hehe, I'd rather wait until the next bugfix anyway.



KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/21/2018 10:46:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sugar

Hehe, I'd rather wait until the next bugfix anyway.


After kicking a fuss about not playing?

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BPINisBACK -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/22/2018 8:57:21 AM)

New game startet: BPINisBACK(Axis) vs HamburgerMeat(Allies)
HamburgerMeat challenges me! :)



YohanTM -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/22/2018 11:10:36 AM)

I challenge Sugar - I will take Allies

Advise welcome :)



KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/22/2018 11:50:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: YohanTM

I challenge Sugar - I will take Allies

Advise welcome :)


Read the KZ-Sugar AAR and don't repeat my mistakes. [8D]



MrLongleg -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/24/2018 3:14:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: YohanTM

I challenge Sugar - I will take Allies

Advise welcome :)


You deserve a medal for this. I will root with the Allies here. @Sugar - I have a thing for the underdogs, I wish I could master the Axis like you do ;-)



Sugar -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/26/2018 5:19:01 PM)

Sorry for the delay, gents! Some Log In issues on my side.[&:]

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I challenge Sugar - I will take Allies
Very nice! I`ll set up the challenge and contact you.







YohanTM -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/26/2018 7:41:27 PM)

For what we are about to receive...



Rannug61 -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/27/2018 12:40:34 PM)

Rannug(Allies) wins over Bullet(Axis) May 1943

Axis holds NA and western Syria/Jordan and Palestine, the Allies has firm control over Iraq and has control over the ME skies. Spain is Axis. In Russia Leningrad/Moskwa/Rostov/Kharkov and Stalingrad are in Russian control. Leningrad would have gone down during the next couple of turn though.
UK/US was slowly preparing a D-Day for the summer(July) of 43. Axis was not doomed but it was starting to be an uphill battle and Bullet had enough.



KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/27/2018 12:56:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rannug61

Rannug(Allies) wins over Bullet(Axis) May 1943

Axis holds NA and western Syria/Jordan and Palestine, the Allies has firm control over Iraq and has control over the ME skies. Spain is Axis. In Russia Leningrad/Moskwa/Rostov/Kharkov and Stalingrad are in Russian control. Leningrad would have gone down during the next couple of turn though.
UK/US was slowly preparing a D-Day for the summer(July) of 43. Axis was not doomed but it was starting to be an uphill battle and Bullet had enough.


Wait I thought your game with bullet was already over (Game #18) or is that a rematch of some sort?



Rannug61 -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/27/2018 1:37:52 PM)

It's game # 18 but I just wanted give a short "picture" of how the game ended. I been on holiday and got back yesterday and found out that Bullet had resigned.



KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/27/2018 4:07:34 PM)

gotcha!



Taxman66 -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/27/2018 11:06:45 PM)

I'm willing to give this another go.
Though I can't guarantee I'll get a turn done every day (though some days, usually Thurs - Sun US time, I might be able to do more than 1), obviously early war will be quicker/easier.
Also not likely to do another AAR, or if I do it will have to be with my opponent's approval as it will reduce turn frequency.

I'd also like to start off accepting a challenge instead of making one (unless I get bumped to the bottom?)



KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/27/2018 11:19:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Taxman66

I'm willing to give this another go.
Though I can't guarantee I'll get a turn done every day (though some days, usually Thurs - Sun US time, I might be able to do more than 1), obviously early war will be quicker/easier.
Also not likely to do another AAR, or if I do it will have to be with my opponent's approval as it will reduce turn frequency.

I'd also like to start off accepting a challenge instead of making one (unless I get bumped to the bottom?)


Yeah, we put the rule to bump down one pyramid level upon reactivation from retirement. I know its not your case but its to avoid situation where people would 'retire' to dodge challenges. :)

I think Rannug said he was going on vacation for a week so maybe challenge Irishguard to reclaim a spot on the second level? Or wait a week and do a rematch with Rannug!



Taxman66 -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/28/2018 12:01:02 AM)

OK, I challenge Irishguard.
I'll play the Allies as I'm still too chicken to try the Axis. [:'(]

Do I have to PM him?



KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/28/2018 12:03:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Taxman66

OK, I challenge Irishguard.
I'll play the Allies as I'm still too chicken to try the Axis. [:'(]

Do I have to PM him?


Yeah, might as well. I don't know how often he checks the forum so at least a PM will get to his email.



IrishGuards -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (6/28/2018 1:23:11 PM)

yup pm received ... game accepted
waiting for his reply
IG



room -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (7/11/2018 2:27:01 PM)

Tourney Game #22: PJL1973 (Allies) vs room (Axis)

PJL has resigned... I am a bit dubitative and have no info from him as of why atm.

I don't think the game was quite decively decided yet even if I felt confortable.

We were sept or nov 42 and I did not have any of the 3 SU key cities yet. Just took Rostov and started caucasian et Stalingrad approach while starting the siege of Leningrad fortification and had access to Moscow fortification only from the South. Had started to invadade Persia but no solid attempt has they were russian there and I prefered to destroyed the anglo-US in South Persia. Had Spain and Finland on my side too. Finally U-boat were doing a remarquable job for sure and losses ratio was good for me. However I do not feel it was over by any means.



PJL1973 -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (7/11/2018 6:46:46 PM)

I resigned because you were essentially winning everywhere. You were winning the naval war, the war in Russia & Persia, the air war, the economic war. I tried to make a stand with the Western Allies in southern Persia, but your air superiority made that impossible. The only reason why I was still doing well in Russia was that you were focusing on the south. But I knew once you had taken that threat out, I was toast in Russia. Even without the focus you were slowing pushing me back.

Even so, had I felt I had control of the naval war I might have carried on. But there was very little I could do to your subs, and they were not only strangling my convoys but hitting my infrastructure in North America too. As a result your economy was nearly as big as mine anyway.

As a result I knew the writing was on the wall. Yes you hadn't captured any of the Soviet victory cities, but you were in a position to take all 3 of them by the end of 1943. All I could do at that point was delay the inevitable.

Personally I think you are a very good player, in the top 3, along with Sugar and Korut.



PvtBenjamin -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (7/11/2018 9:18:47 PM)

Wow Another Axis victory in the tourney (and many in the works) !!!!

When high level players engage seems the Axis ALWAYS wins

I'm sure some [:-] will continue to try to recruit new players to get a beat down to say the Allies are favored

The conundrum is for newer players the Allies have an advantage

Adding difficulty levels like in the AI game anyone?




KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (7/11/2018 9:26:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PJL1973

Personally I think you are a very good player, in the top 3, along with Sugar and Korut.


Ha! It's still funny to think I'm seen up there. I'll take the compliment. [:)]



KorutZelva -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (7/11/2018 9:29:10 PM)

Room challenge Rannug to a game before Sugar or I finish our game. The game will allow one of you to move up a level!



Rannug61 -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (7/11/2018 9:41:33 PM)

I'm here waiting for you Room....[sm=00000106.gif]



room -> RE: Official Tourney Pyramid Thread (7/11/2018 9:52:01 PM)

Thanks PJL, I think most of what you said is correct. I am just kind of a hard finisher, my 2 best games imowhere miracle comeback game with the allies (one victory and one draw). However I am far from KZ and even further from Sugar, the guy beated me in DEC 42 [:D] [:D]

Please challenge me Rannug, my only condition is that you setup the game and password [;)]



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