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verdugo94 -> CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (3/27/2018 10:38:37 AM)

Hello, I have tried to find my doubts in the forum and in the manual but I couldnt find them, sorry if they are repetitive [&:]

1)I have notice that my Air Combat tfīs spend fuel while they are on port, even if it is mother port. On then I have planes on training and on CAP, could be related to this? Does someone else have the same problem?

2)In aircraft production, when I switch production from one aircraft to another all of the factories are damaged and some dissapear, I recall that switching single engine to another single engine saved some factories but it has never happened to me. What is the benefit of doing this? Each of the damaged factories cost 1000 supply to repair?

If it is true, how do you switch production from old models to newer ones without damaging the factories? Because the production starts on 0 and it requires a lot of months and supply to begin a decent production.

3)Does some of you have an aircraft upgrades chart? It will be really appreciated :)

Thanks you for your answers



Chris21wen -> RE: CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (3/27/2018 11:48:02 AM)

Any TF will use minimal fuel in port if it is not docked. Being a CV TF means it's likely to be too large for the port. Carrier aircraft do not use ship fuel in anyway. CV have a number of 'offensive' sorties available to them once used they must return to rearm. CAP and training mission are not 'offensive', any form of attack or recon (I think) is.

Depends very much on Player Defined Upgrades (PDU) ON/OFF. Basically look at an a/c 'family' tree. The A6M2 upgrades to the A6M2 Sen Baku then too the A6M5b. If you change your factory to the next a/c in line then no damage occurs. If you skip the next inline or completely change to an a/c outside of it's tree all the factories are damaged plus you suffer a approx. 1/3 loss in factories.

You need 10K min at a base to repair and it use 1K in the process.

There's a number of guides around to help you with a/c production, You could satrt here. http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3329605



crsutton -> RE: CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (3/28/2018 4:44:34 PM)

Any combat ship in port that is in ready status-not disbanded, would have its boilers all lit and near full steam raised. So even sitting they they will need some fuel.



rustysi -> RE: CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (3/31/2018 3:25:54 PM)

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If it is true, how do you switch production from old models to newer ones without damaging the factories?


This may only be accomplished if the aircraft is advanced along the improvement flowchart. If going to a 'different' model the reductions will occur.

quote:

Does some of you have an aircraft upgrades chart?


Had a hard copy which I've now misplaced. Even lost my 'soft' copy due to sys crash. Will search the forum and get back when I can.



Bullwinkle58 -> RE: CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (3/31/2018 5:09:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rustysi

quote:

If it is true, how do you switch production from old models to newer ones without damaging the factories?


This may only be accomplished if the aircraft is advanced along the improvement flowchart. If going to a 'different' model the reductions will occur.

quote:

Does some of you have an aircraft upgrades chart?


Had a hard copy which I've now misplaced. Even lost my 'soft' copy due to sys crash. Will search the forum and get back when I can.


verdugo94 is my opponent in the PBEM. I found this flowchart from long ago and provided the link to him. It's the best one I've found for Japanese aircraft.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/37283/B1EDA09DE19F419A993614199966A99F.jpg



rustysi -> RE: CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (3/31/2018 5:18:57 PM)

Thanks Moose. Doesn't have the bombers in there, but the rest looks good.



rustysi -> RE: CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (3/31/2018 6:34:19 PM)

I found it, but not on a machine I can download it to, also forgot my 'stick'. At any rate the above by Moose should get you started. One correction though that has to be made on all of them. The Ki-84 does not go Ki-84a to Ki-84b to Ki-84r. Its Ki-84a to Ki-84r or Ki-84b to Ki-84r. AFAIK that's a dev choice, don't know why, but I trust them.


Edit:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2769286&mpage=1&key=?#

Download by clicking on 'Attachment' in post 2.

Should give whole picture.



GetAssista -> RE: CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (3/31/2018 7:16:24 PM)

One can always get all the upgrade paths from the game directly. Handy in case of mods.
To do this, go to Intelligence screen -> Aircraft replacement pool. All the airframes have their next upgrade in the path listed in the last column



verdugo94 -> RE: CVs tf fuel consumption and aircraft production Question (4/1/2018 1:43:22 PM)

Hello, thanks for your answer. I was discussing the fuel topic with Steve

I have made some investigation to this, you might find it useful, I compared some ships in different tfs, one surface combat and another from air combat, both of them in port for a long time. The first one is a BB, as you see in 20 turns it loses around 15% of its fuel while been in a tf in a port. Same percentage happens with endurance.


Compared with Kaga it loses more that 50% in the same interval. The last turn I put all of its air groups in stand down and I didnīt noticed any difference, the last turn I disbanded it on the port and it worked none fuel or endurance was wasted. This might simulate the ships moving to train or avoid being quite in the harbor I donīt know.





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