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adarbrauner -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/16/2018 11:17:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-15th April 43

A period of missed opportunity. The Allies launch a major amphib operation in the Marshalls and take Kwajalien and Roi Namur. If my CVs were based at Truk I would have probably been able to force a CV battle but alas they were based at Manila and therefore too far away to intervene. With only subs in the area to attack his ships they do a decent job, putting 2 torps into CV Enterprise, CA New Orleans and CL Santa Fe, however in every case it was probably one short of sinking them. No a/c losses reported on the ground so they will all survive[:@] His ships are retreating back to PH now, this was probably my last chance of a CV battle in my favour so I'm rather pissed my CVs were not in position to attack.

Elsewhere south of Shortland Is I send a CA force to attack ships spotted at Vella lavella that he is building up, they meet a modern US CL fleet and we exchange one DD lost and a few ships damaged.

In Burma I retreat from Taung Gyi as I cannot get any supply into the hex, I time it well as he deliberate attacks just as all my units move out. They are getting supply now, and sitting in JR terrain I doubt he will follow and will look elsewhere to try and make a breakthrough. I had expected to have been pushed back towards Rangoon by now so I'm happy with my performance in this area if nowhere else.

Santa Fe may go down

Anyhow excellent subs performance...

But wait, Enterprise and the cruiser may be slowed down, right? So maybe..




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/17/2018 11:17:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-15th April 43


In Burma I retreat from Taung Gyi as I cannot get any supply into the hex, I time it well as he deliberate attacks just as all my units move out. They are getting supply now, and sitting in JR terrain I doubt he will follow and will look elsewhere to try and make a breakthrough. I had expected to have been pushed back towards Rangoon by now so I'm happy with my performance in this area if nowhere else.


Always easier to keep troops supplied in the field in Burma...

13 Divisions in Burma area is not too many, often times there are 20+[;)].







I wish!




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/17/2018 11:41:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner


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ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-15th April 43

A period of missed opportunity. The Allies launch a major amphib operation in the Marshalls and take Kwajalien and Roi Namur. If my CVs were based at Truk I would have probably been able to force a CV battle but alas they were based at Manila and therefore too far away to intervene. With only subs in the area to attack his ships they do a decent job, putting 2 torps into CV Enterprise, CA New Orleans and CL Santa Fe, however in every case it was probably one short of sinking them. No a/c losses reported on the ground so they will all survive[:@] His ships are retreating back to PH now, this was probably my last chance of a CV battle in my favour so I'm rather pissed my CVs were not in position to attack.

Elsewhere south of Shortland Is I send a CA force to attack ships spotted at Vella lavella that he is building up, they meet a modern US CL fleet and we exchange one DD lost and a few ships damaged.

In Burma I retreat from Taung Gyi as I cannot get any supply into the hex, I time it well as he deliberate attacks just as all my units move out. They are getting supply now, and sitting in JR terrain I doubt he will follow and will look elsewhere to try and make a breakthrough. I had expected to have been pushed back towards Rangoon by now so I'm happy with my performance in this area if nowhere else.

Santa Fe may go down

Anyhow excellent subs performance...

But wait, Enterprise and the cruiser may be slowed down, right? So maybe..


My subs finished off the Santa Fe but it looks like the Enterprise will survive. I have put torps into Yorktown, Hornet, Lexington and Enterprise but no sinkings[:(]




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/20/2018 12:12:58 AM)

16th-30th April 43

My subs finish off the crippled New Orleans and Santa Fe, but it costs me 3 of them to his ASW in the process. Unfortunately it looks like Enterprise has escaped. If he had lost her it would have been a major blow for what is of little strategic value to me now, but as it is neither of us yet to lose a single flight deck so far. CVs Unyru and Amagi join the fleet and Taiho and Katsuragi should be in theatre by the middle of May.

Not much to report elsewhere, he is shuffling his troops around in Burma but has not made his next point of attack clear yet, there has also been a big reduction in his air strikes as well, probably the calm before the storm.




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/22/2018 11:43:47 PM)

1st-15th May 43

In Burma I retreat to a line running east from Prome to the hex east of Toungoo. It looks like his main thrust will be at Prome or the hex to the east, I will find out soon. I continue to lose the air war here as his P40K get 4:1 kill ratios over the Oscar IIb thanks to their 30mph extra top speed.

The only other area of action is in SOPAC. He finally invades Shortlands despite it being almost empty for a month. Seeing several large TFs hanging around there I send the KB on a full speed run south to see what they can sink. Thanks to bad weather nothing attacks in the morning and then only about 25% of my available strike a/c in the afternoon. They badly damage a few Aussie and US CAs and CLs but nothing will sink. Against my better judgement I hang around for another day and he ramps up his CAP, I lose 100 a/c for a few transports sunk, mainly thanks to the AI sending a lot of bombers in with minimal escort whilst another strike see's 220 Zeros escorting 5 Kates[:@] I can afford to lose the a/c but the pilot losses hurt.....




adarbrauner -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/23/2018 7:27:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-15th May 43

In Burma I retreat to a line running east from Prome to the hex east of Toungoo. It looks like his main thrust will be at Prome or the hex to the east, I will find out soon. I continue to lose the air war here as his P40K get 4:1 kill ratios over the Oscar IIb thanks to their 30mph extra top speed.

The only other area of action is in SOPAC. He finally invades Shortlands despite it being almost empty for a month. Seeing several large TFs hanging around there I send the KB on a full speed run south to see what they can sink. Thanks to bad weather nothing attacks in the morning and then only about 25% of my available strike a/c in the afternoon. They badly damage a few Aussie and US CAs and CLs but nothing will sink. Against my better judgement I hang around for another day and he ramps up his CAP, I lose 100 a/c for a few transports sunk, mainly thanks to the AI sending a lot of bombers in with minimal escort whilst another strike see's 220 Zeros escorting 5 Kates[:@] I can afford to lose the a/c but the pilot losses hurt.....



I really don't think he P 40 s are wining at that ratio because of 30 mph speed advantage only.




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/24/2018 11:37:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner


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ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-15th May 43

In Burma I retreat to a line running east from Prome to the hex east of Toungoo. It looks like his main thrust will be at Prome or the hex to the east, I will find out soon. I continue to lose the air war here as his P40K get 4:1 kill ratios over the Oscar IIb thanks to their 30mph extra top speed.

The only other area of action is in SOPAC. He finally invades Shortlands despite it being almost empty for a month. Seeing several large TFs hanging around there I send the KB on a full speed run south to see what they can sink. Thanks to bad weather nothing attacks in the morning and then only about 25% of my available strike a/c in the afternoon. They badly damage a few Aussie and US CAs and CLs but nothing will sink. Against my better judgement I hang around for another day and he ramps up his CAP, I lose 100 a/c for a few transports sunk, mainly thanks to the AI sending a lot of bombers in with minimal escort whilst another strike see's 220 Zeros escorting 5 Kates[:@] I can afford to lose the a/c but the pilot losses hurt.....



I really don't think he P 40 s are wining at that ratio because of 30 mph speed advantage only.


Well I can't think of another reason as my pilots will be at least the same exp and most of the time they are high morale/low fatigue. Perhaps it is due to weak armament as well he has more damaged and not destroyed....




witpqs -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/24/2018 11:57:20 AM)

...and durability.




PaxMondo -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/24/2018 1:50:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs

...and durability.

+1




Mike McCreery -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/24/2018 1:56:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Miller


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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner


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ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-15th May 43

In Burma I retreat to a line running east from Prome to the hex east of Toungoo. It looks like his main thrust will be at Prome or the hex to the east, I will find out soon. I continue to lose the air war here as his P40K get 4:1 kill ratios over the Oscar IIb thanks to their 30mph extra top speed.

The only other area of action is in SOPAC. He finally invades Shortlands despite it being almost empty for a month. Seeing several large TFs hanging around there I send the KB on a full speed run south to see what they can sink. Thanks to bad weather nothing attacks in the morning and then only about 25% of my available strike a/c in the afternoon. They badly damage a few Aussie and US CAs and CLs but nothing will sink. Against my better judgement I hang around for another day and he ramps up his CAP, I lose 100 a/c for a few transports sunk, mainly thanks to the AI sending a lot of bombers in with minimal escort whilst another strike see's 220 Zeros escorting 5 Kates[:@] I can afford to lose the a/c but the pilot losses hurt.....



I really don't think he P 40 s are wining at that ratio because of 30 mph speed advantage only.


Well I can't think of another reason as my pilots will be at least the same exp and most of the time they are high morale/low fatigue. Perhaps it is due to weak armament as well he has more damaged and not destroyed....


MrKane specializes on training and organizing his pilot force in a way to project power. It wont get better once he gets the Jugs.




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/24/2018 2:57:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs

...and durability.


You're right. If this was pdu on he would be facing the Tojo IIc which is pretty much the equal of the P40K in every dept, but alas I must soldier on with the Oscar. I get the IIIa version next month which gives another small speed boost but I can't see that making much difference.




GetAssista -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/24/2018 4:01:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Miller
You're right. If this was pdu on he would be facing the Tojo IIc which is pretty much the equal of the P40K in every dept, but alas I must soldier on with the Oscar. I get the IIIa version next month which gives another small speed boost but I can't see that making much difference.

Where are your Tojo daitais? You do get some, and there are few places for them better than Burma in 43




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/24/2018 6:03:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

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ORIGINAL: Miller
You're right. If this was pdu on he would be facing the Tojo IIc which is pretty much the equal of the P40K in every dept, but alas I must soldier on with the Oscar. I get the IIIa version next month which gives another small speed boost but I can't see that making much difference.

Where are your Tojo daitais? You do get some, and there are few places for them better than Burma in 43


From memory I only have 3 in the game, one size 42, one size 36 and one size 12. I think both of the larger ones are at Rabual. I did have one in Burma but as the early versions lack armour they did not do well. The armoured IIc arrives next month so will try them out when I have built enough to fill out the sqds.




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (6/26/2018 11:02:50 AM)

16th-30th May 43

In Burma it looked like he was about to cross the river into Prome with almost 40 units including 3000! AFVs, but again he changes his mind at the last minute as I manage to get all 3 tanks divs into place. Even so, I'm surprised he didn't still go ahead anyway, after all it is a clear hex although I have 4.5 forts there. His units are moving back north and east. He continues to bomb my troops and sweep but I'm just letting my fighter sqds rest for now. If I didn't know any better I would think this was just one big diversion for me to commit more troops to...

Down in Aus he has marched a div into Katherine but seems to have stopped there, I know its hard to get any supply to flow that far north. I have one div at Darwin with a few bits and pieces as well and it has 6 forts, so it won't be falling anytime soon. Over in the Solomons he is sweeping Rabual from shortlands and getting about 2:1 in kills but as most of my pilots survive I'm happy enough with that.




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/1/2018 12:43:28 PM)

1st-30th June 43

The month gets off to a good start as a sub puts two torps into CVE Santee just one hex from PH and down she goes, the first flattop lost by either side in the game. The rest of the month is a snooze-fest. In Burma he has moved his massive stack of troops to Mandalay where they sit doing nothing for the time being. He has also stopped all offensive air ops all over the map, no bombing, no sweeping, nothing. So in order to liven things up a bit I decided (based on faulty recon) to do a full port strike on Shortlands with all my carriers. It looked like he had a lot of DDs there, but of course they turned out to be PTs and LCI's. His 150 fighters on CAP down about 100 KB a/c and another 50 or so land based sweepers from Rabual[:@] In turn I sink a couple of seaplane tenders and a 20 LCI/PTs, another lesson learned the hard way.....




obvert -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/1/2018 1:43:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-30th June 43

The month gets off to a good start as a sub puts two torps into CVE Santee just one hex from PH and down she goes, the first flattop lost by either side in the game. The rest of the month is a snooze-fest. In Burma he has moved his massive stack of troops to Mandalay where they sit doing nothing for the time being. He has also stopped all offensive air ops all over the map, no bombing, no sweeping, nothing. So in order to liven things up a bit I decided (based on faulty recon) to do a full port strike on Shortlands with all my carriers. It looked like he had a lot of DDs there, but of course they turned out to be PTs and LCI's. His 150 fighters on CAP down about 100 KB a/c and another 50 or so land based sweepers from Rabual[:@] In turn I sink a couple of seaplane tenders and a 20 LCI/PTs, another lesson learned the hard way.....


Invasion on the way!

Getting those summer CVs and a few more planes in the pools, then ... look out!




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/1/2018 2:52:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: obvert


quote:

ORIGINAL: Miller

1st-30th June 43

The month gets off to a good start as a sub puts two torps into CVE Santee just one hex from PH and down she goes, the first flattop lost by either side in the game. The rest of the month is a snooze-fest. In Burma he has moved his massive stack of troops to Mandalay where they sit doing nothing for the time being. He has also stopped all offensive air ops all over the map, no bombing, no sweeping, nothing. So in order to liven things up a bit I decided (based on faulty recon) to do a full port strike on Shortlands with all my carriers. It looked like he had a lot of DDs there, but of course they turned out to be PTs and LCI's. His 150 fighters on CAP down about 100 KB a/c and another 50 or so land based sweepers from Rabual[:@] In turn I sink a couple of seaplane tenders and a 20 LCI/PTs, another lesson learned the hard way.....


Invasion on the way!

Getting those summer CVs and a few more planes in the pools, then ... look out!


Oh yes, I'm sure of that. But where??




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/3/2018 12:20:51 PM)

As Obvert indicated, now that the big Allied push is looking close, its time to consider where Kane will strike. The options:

Kuriles

Pros: Would put him in strat bombing range of Hokkaido and NE tip of the mainland.

Cons: Would be hard to achieve surprise, within 2 days steaming for my CVs, would activate emergency reinforcements in Japan.

I can't see this to be honest. He has built up Shemya Island to the max in the western Aleutians but nothing else. I think it would be a late game adventure for him.


Rabual/Truk/Marianas

He could easily bypass the first two but would have to commit everything to the Marianas. Again, I think this is unlikely as he would face most of my fleet and the lack of surprise factor. Perhaps early/mid 44 when he has plenty of CVEs in play.


Timor/Celebes


A strong possibility but I think he would need to retake Darwin first. His troops continue to rest at Katherine so supply looks to be an issue.


Java/Sumatra

This is where my money would go at the moment. Again, surprise would be hard for him to achieve but it would take my fleet a few turns to make an appearance. I have built up Batavia and Surubaya to the max but we all know LBA is unreliable against big amphibious invasions. If he he got a good foothold on Java it wouldn't be long before Palembang was closed for business....


Burma

This is a strange one. Despite the fact he has more than enough to breach my defensive line in at least one area he seems to have given up here for the time being. One option for him would be an amphibious landing somewhere like Tavoy or Victoria Point to cut off all my troops in Burma, but I don't think he has the spare manpower to do this as virtually everything from India appears to already be in Burma.


China

I think we have an unofficial truce at the moment. He's getting supply through now but it will take him time to build up all the battered and respawned divisions sitting at Chunking. Don't think anything will happen here until 44.




Lowpe -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/3/2018 1:03:06 PM)

I am not sure you can look at pros and cons with Mr. Kane. I think he is trying for new experiences, so I would look to understand what he hasn't done.

Of course if you offer him low hanging fruit...





BBfanboy -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/3/2018 3:27:33 PM)

Only Paramushiro Jima triggers emergency reinforcements. It is country code 100; the rest of the Kuriles are code 101. Use key 4 to see.




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/5/2018 7:13:21 PM)

1st-15th July 43

Nothing of interest to report.




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/9/2018 2:48:34 PM)

16th July - 6th August 43

A much busier period. By region:

Burma: He restarts his air campaign with a vengence. The P47 makes it debut with 100 sweeping the sky over Rangoon, my Oscars were stood down so I'm thinking I got lucky....then the B24s show up and destroy 110 on the ground[:(] To be fair I probably would have lost as many in the air had they been up and at least most of the pilots survived. Since then I have mostly left them flying low % CAP as losses to his sweeps seem lighter for some reason. He quickly switches all his bombers to attack Toungoo as this is where his mega stack of troops ends up. I get lucky one day as he sweepers arrive after his bombers and I down almost 100 2E bombers, but that was a rare bright spot in the air. His first deliberate attack:

Ground combat at Toungoo (57,50)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 196449 troops, 3331 guns, 3508 vehicles, Assault Value = 8095

Defending force 92891 troops, 1052 guns, 2484 vehicles, Assault Value = 3049

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 8674

Japanese adjusted defense: 11441

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3589 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 304 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 60 disabled
Guns lost 176 (20 destroyed, 156 disabled)
Vehicles lost 151 (15 destroyed, 136 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
16877 casualties reported
Squads: 128 destroyed, 1576 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 342 disabled
Engineers: 58 destroyed, 362 disabled
Guns lost 312 (12 destroyed, 300 disabled)
Vehicles lost 245 (25 destroyed, 220 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
18th British Division
XXXIII Corps Engineer Battalion
9th Indian Division
255th Armoured Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
7th Australian Division
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
5th Chinese Corps
6th Australian Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
26th Indian Division
2nd British Division
1st New Chinese Corps
11th Indian Division
22nd (East African) Brigade
5th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
25th Indian Division
19th Indian Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
9th Australian Division
2nd Indian Heavy AA Regiment
XV Indian Corps

It looks like he is going to have to bomb me out of supply to force me to retreat. I have a large convoy with 250k supply enroute from the homeland, it is due to arrive in about 10 days so hopefully I can prolong this seige for a few more weeks at least.


Marshalls/Cenpac: He take Eniwetok without any interference from me but then goes for Ponape. With no sign of his CVs in the area I did not commit the KB, but my Nettys from Truk do well putting 2 torps into the CVEs Anzio and Corregidor which were covering his invasion. Between mines and the CD unit on Ponape I take a chunk out of his shipping, sinking a couple of DDs and leaving numerous CAs and DDs on fire. Meanwhile a TF of old DDs meets a bombardment fleet before it can unload on the island:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Ponape at 119,113, Range 29,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Yugiri, Shell hits 2
DD Amagiri, Shell hits 1
DD Fumizuki, Shell hits 1
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 1
DD Nagatsuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Shell hits 1
BB Colorado, Shell hits 2
BB West Virginia, Torpedo hits 2
BB Nevada
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 1
BB Idaho
BB New Mexico
BB Mississippi
DD Sims
DD Dewey, Shell hits 1
DD Worden, Shell hits 2
DD Dale, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

The 2 torp hits on West Virginia prove critical and she is finished off by a sub the next day[8D]

He gets 3 units with about 300AV ashore but my garrison holds long enough to allow me to get a spare div sitting at Truk to Ponape, so he will have to land more there if he wants to capture it. To round off a stinging defeat for the USN my Nettys finish off the two crippled CVEs and a sub sinks the CA Chicago (damaged in the invasion) in sight of Pearl Harbour. So that's an old BB, 2 CVEs a CA plus several DDs confirmed sunk, for a cost to me of two old DDs and about 30 a/c[&o]


Elsewhere

He is sweeping Rabual regularly and gets between 2:1 and 3:1 in kills, which I can still live with at the moment as long as the pilots keep bailing out to fight another day[:D]

Lots of shipping at Port Moresby, I think he may be making a move in the Timor area very soon.





Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/10/2018 12:39:59 PM)

Test



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Canoerebel -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/10/2018 12:55:28 PM)

Test? This is a test? I know the answer. That's Burma and vicinity.




witpqs -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/10/2018 1:29:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Test? This is a test? I know the answer. That's Burma and vicinity.

But look at the date...




Bif1961 -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/10/2018 1:45:38 PM)

Back to the future?




Canoerebel -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/10/2018 1:51:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: witpqs
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Test? This is a test? I know the answer. That's Burma and vicinity.

But look at the date...


July 10, 2018, so Myanmar and vicinity?




witpqs -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/10/2018 1:59:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

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ORIGINAL: witpqs
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Test? This is a test? I know the answer. That's Burma and vicinity.

But look at the date...


July 10, 2018, so Myanmar and vicinity?


The date in the screen pic! [:D]




Bif1961 -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/10/2018 2:03:22 PM)

I am only 3 comments from quads so pardon the lack of meaningful content, the date is 7 December, 1941.




Miller -> RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) (7/10/2018 2:04:55 PM)

Yes, you have just witnessed my first ever successful capture and post of a screenshot on this forum. It's only taken me 14 years to learn how to do it[:D]




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