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apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/22/2020 1:29:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

Can't you click "Set All Dive Bombers in Hex?" With that and the button for TBs I don't find it hard to adjust naval attack range.

Also, well done at Shimonoseki. I was expecting your guys to get a bit more shredded. And good luck with the next two invasions.

Cheers,
CB


I just loaded up the game to check, and yes, you can do that for all of the dive bombers in the hex. I've done the same for land-based units. It never occurred to me that it could be done for the carriers. And yet, the option is right there, same as for land-based units. Thank you for the info. Will save me time on every turn. And some planes too.




CaptBeefheart -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/22/2020 3:52:35 AM)

Amazing how you can still learn new stuff with this game after years of play. Happy to help.

Cheers,
CB




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/24/2020 1:34:36 AM)

30 May 44

3 US DMS's led the way into Tokuyama. They cleared 8 mines, but were fired on by the 10th Special Base Force. Moderate damage to one DMS. At least it isn't a fortress unit. ALK FS-193, loaded with supply, and LCI-529, loaded with troops, hit mines. Both sank. AKA Betelgeuse, loaded with supply, hit a mine and has 30 FLOT damage. All assault units unloaded.

4 US destroyers sprinted to the straits south of Kobe, looking for E-boats. They found 2 that were with CM Okinoshima. In a series of 2 battles, all enemy ships were sunk. 2 enemy AMc's were then engaged and sunk.

Battleships Mississippi, Idaho and Pennsylvania bombarded Brunei. Rockwell Torrey is finally back in action on the Mississippi. 3 Indian para units unloaded at Brunei. This is a backwater. I suspect that the enemy is out of supply on Borneo, so I'd like to take Brunei and Miri. Miri is more heavily defended.

Sub Scamp sank small patrol boat Pa-1 near Akita. Gudgeon sank E-boat W-16 near Toyohara.

3 US destroyers moved just east of Oita to Matsuyama to cover a DMS sweeping mines there. Judys attacked in both the morning and afternoon. 50 P-47s were on range 1 CAP from adjacent Oita. They appeared in combat but did not intercept. Intercept times were all 8 minutes or less. They never got to the Judys. Patrol altitude may have played a part in that. They were patrolling at 35000 feet, protecting Oita from sweepers. The Judys came in at 15000 feet. DD Daly was hit by 2 bombs and is gravely damaged, with SYS 65/FLOT 31-15/FLOT 7-1/FIRE 89. It only has one hex to go to Oita, but it may burn up first. Plus, Oita is just a size 2 port. It may burn up regardless. The other DDs were hit one and twice and have moderate damage. They'll head towards Amami Oshima. 6 Judys were shot down by flak. With this result, I'll use more LRCAP instead of ranged CAP for Tokuyama.

Helens and Peggys attacked US troops at Shimonoseki. Plenty of fighters there, but most of the bombers got through, causing light damage to the troops. 6 Helens were shot down.

Here's what the fight looks like at Tokuyama.

Ground combat at Tokuyama (105,58)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5439 troops, 119 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 400

Defending force 73790 troops, 1243 guns, 1430 vehicles, Assault Value = 2204

Japanese ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
30th Ind.Mixed Brigade
54th Ind.Mixed Brigade
23rd Nav Gd Unit
6th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
22nd Ind.AA Gun Co
14th Army
3rd Medium Mortar Battalion
48th JAAF AF Bn
17th Port Unit
56th Const Co
81st Field AA Battalion
10th Special Base Force
29th Army
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
1st USMC Tank Battalion
41st Infantry Division
5th Marine Division
31st Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
776th Amphib Tank Battalion
3rd Arm Amphib Battalion
Provisionl Tank Brigade
93rd Infantry Division
102nd Cmbt Engineer Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
819th Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
XI US Corps
96th Coast AA Regiment
51st Marine Defense Battalion
601st Field Artillery Battalion
5th US Naval Construction Battalion
602nd Field Artillery Battalion
1905th Aviation Engineer Battalion
536th AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
18th Marine AA Battalion
5th USN Special Construction Battalion


And here's what Shimonoseki looks like:

Ground combat at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Allied Bombardment attack [Divisions not firing artillery]

Attacking force 834 troops, 90 guns, 70 vehicles, Assault Value = 1607

Defending force 43113 troops, 489 guns, 228 vehicles, Assault Value = 802

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Marine Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
1st (Spec) Cavalry Division
34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
1st Marine Division
193rd Tank Battalion
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
2nd Marine Division
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
Sixth US Army
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
145th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
225th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
138th Infantry Regiment
86th Division
12th Division
35th Ind.Mixed Brigade
58th Infantry Regiment
124th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Shimonoseki Fortress
32nd Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
16th AA Regiment
7th Area Army
80th Field AA Battalion
101st AA Regiment
Oita JNAF Base Force


North of Sian in China (yes, there's still a war going on in China), the Chinese win a fight and threaten Sian from the north-north east. One of the Chinese corps is one of the two corps that was formed from components moved out of China at the very beginning of the war. They built up to maximum strength in India and were instrumental in the amphibious landings in Burma at and near Rangoon. They temporarily pushed towards Thailand, and then were pulled out fairly recently for the long walk into China from Burma. The other corps is approaching the Sian area from the west and will be engaged soon.

Ground combat at 83,39 (near Sian)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43694 troops, 240 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1917

Defending force 6975 troops, 50 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 222

Allied adjusted assault: 1264

Japanese adjusted defense: 117

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1389 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1138 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd New Chinese Corps
7th Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
3rd Group Army

Defending units:
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade


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apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/24/2020 11:11:24 PM)

31 May 44

Battleships bombarded Shimonoseki. An LCI was hit by a shell at the Tokuyama landing, but it will survive. Dive bombers targeted many midget subs at Hiroshima. That explains all of the 1 ship task forces that I've seen there.

2 big battles and 2 big victories.

Ground combat at Tokuyama (105,58)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 67385 troops, 1134 guns, 1249 vehicles, Assault Value = 2220

Defending force 19192 troops, 233 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 350

Allied adjusted assault: 3087

Japanese adjusted defense: 97

Allied assault odds: 31 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tokuyama !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
10802 casualties reported
Squads: 123 destroyed, 66 disabled
Non Combat: 345 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 56 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 171 (129 destroyed, 42 disabled)
Vehicles lost 119 (114 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 14

Allied ground losses:
966 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 109 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled
Guns lost 36 (2 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 73 (11 destroyed, 62 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Ground combat at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 52736 troops, 738 guns, 854 vehicles, Assault Value = 1663

Defending force 42212 troops, 477 guns, 226 vehicles, Assault Value = 761

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 964

Japanese adjusted defense: 305

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Shimonoseki !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
13836 casualties reported
Squads: 266 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 479 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 48 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 317 (315 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 183 (182 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 12
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
756 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 86 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 40 (2 destroyed, 38 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!


Burning destroyer Daly made it to Oita and disbanded into the size 2 port. Its FIRE went down to 2, although its SYS went up to 72. Looks like it will make it.

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apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/25/2020 11:31:11 PM)

1 Jun 44

Another month. I predict that the war will be over before the end of June. I think that the 3 to 1 points advantage will be achieved, and that OPilot will surrender at that point. Just a prediction though.

US ships sweep many mines at Shimonoseki.

The enemy made a major air effort at Tokuyama, sending 3 big Frank units on sweeps. A mixed defense of ranged CAP from Kyushu and some dedicated LRCAP worked well. The defenders used a staggered CAP. Intercepting at first were 53 P-38s and 49 P-47s. The Franks came in groups of around 48 each. Total air losses were 74 Franks, for the cost of 18 P-47s and 4 P-38s. This is the worst I've seen the Franks do while sweeping. Could finally be an indication that the very good pilots are gone.

The Chinese finish off a mixed brigade north of Sian. They'd won the fight for the two days prior, and finished off the enemy, who didn't retreat, today.

Ground combat at 83,39 (near Sian)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 55868 troops, 281 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1834

Defending force 3855 troops, 39 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Allied adjusted assault: 1499

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 499 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5050 casualties reported
Squads: 91 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 160 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 45 (45 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
16th Chinese Corps
7th Chinese Corps
2nd New Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
3rd Group Army

Defending units:
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade


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apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/26/2020 11:25:00 PM)

2 Jun 44

All enemy mines cleared from Shimonoseki and Tokuyama.

Near Shikuka, Finback hit light cruiser Noshiro with a torpedo, causing fire and heavy damage. Billfish hit Noshiro with a torpedo on 28 Mar 44 near Amami Oshima.

B-29s from Formosa hit Toyama.

Morning Air attack on Toyama , at 112,57

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 65

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 148
Fires 33372


Remember, it's 1944. We have dozens of first-model B-29s, not the hundreds that arrive in 1945. These B-29s are the ones that appear in Aden and were historically used in China, going to the Mariannas later.

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BBfanboy -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/26/2020 11:33:57 PM)

I see you are applying appropriate priority to how you use your holiday time! Well done at Shimonoseki and Tokuyama - I thought the resistance would last much longer. [sm=happy0065.gif]




CaptBeefheart -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/28/2020 2:53:21 AM)

Can you post your VP screen? This could be over when you take Hiroshima. Still, would be great to see the Tottori landing.

Does he have any large concentrations of air? I'd expect one last kami attack.

Cheers,
CB




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/28/2020 3:54:53 AM)

3 Jun 44

Indian troops continue to unload, slowly, at Brunei. 3 US battleships are bombarding a weak defense there. An attack will be ordered once everything is unloaded.

There was a major bombing effort by the enemy at Hiroshima. Many bomber types, with Franks and Georges escorting and on CAP. About a dozen P-38Js were on ranged CAP, and 12 were lost. Bombing damage to the US troops at Hiroshima was light to moderate. Artillery will attack today here, and just to the north. I don't want to rush things here. I'll attack once the Tottori invasion has cut the island east of Hiroshima.

Here's the order of battle at Hiroshima. The fort level could be very high here:

Ground combat at 105,57 (near Hiroshima/Kure)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 840 troops, 90 guns, 70 vehicles, Assault Value = 1273

Defending force 46022 troops, 417 guns, 119 vehicles, Assault Value = 942

Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd Marine Division
193rd Tank Battalion
3rd Marine Division
754th Tank Battalion
1st (Spec) Cavalry Division
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
Sixth US Army
145th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
225th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
86th Division
12th Division
35th Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
124th Infantry Regiment
109th Division
138th Infantry Regiment
42nd Ind Engineer Regiment
101st AA Regiment
32nd Army
16th AA Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
6th Field Construction Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
7th Area Army
Oita JNAF Base Force


All of the B-29s on Formosa and all of the B-24s in the Japan area hit Toyama. (graphic is wrong, it's Toyama) Fires reported in the 20 and 30 thousands, with many manpower hits. Should be more industry damage today. No CAP there.

Tottori invasion armada to leave Fukuoka and move east, despite enemy battleships spotted in the Sea of Japan. Lots of things could happen today.

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apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/28/2020 3:59:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

Can you post your VP screen? This could be over when you take Hiroshima. Still, would be great to see the Tottori landing.

Does he have any large concentrations of air? I'd expect one last kami attack.

Cheers,
CB


The enemy has large concentrations of fighters. 200+ at Kobe and Osaka. 700+ at Tokyo. Bombers fewer and have generally been ineffective. I've had more problems with the fighters. I think this is a result of how I fought the war. I never really got into an attritional air war with the enemy fighters. When he dominated, I avoided. When I dominated, he avoided.

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CaptBeefheart -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/28/2020 4:05:00 AM)

Ah, very close there. Hiroshima may take a little time (although those units have to be very weak), but some more strategic bombing and Tottori captured should wrap it up. A few IJN capital assets heading to Davey Jones' locker would be icing on the cake. Well played.

Cheers,
CB




BBfanboy -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/28/2020 4:15:13 AM)

If those TFs NW of Hokkaido are warships, their type and direction of travel might indicate if he is gunning or running.




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/29/2020 4:30:00 AM)

4 Jun 44

4 US destroyers moved to Matsue and sank ML G-201, ML G-213 and MTB G-847. All of the carriers and the invading shipping is just to the northwest of Matsue. B-24s hit Matsue. An ACM was sunk. B-25s, ordered to hit the troops at Matsue, didn't fly from their base due to weather. US fighters swept Matsue, finding no CAP. Unescorted Judys attacked the destroyers. F4U-1As, flying from CVL Cowpens, was on LRCAP over Matsue. 41 Judys were shot down. The Marine pilots welcomed 6 new aces and a double-ace.

British sub Stonehenge spotted a big task force with CS Nisshin, 2 CLs and many DDs. This was at the shallow straits hex by Ominato. I'm pretty sure this is one of the battleship task forces spotted in the middle of the Sea of Japan yesterday. If so, the enemy ran after seeing the US carriers at Fukuoka. Stonehenge and other British subs dropped mines at the hex, but not in time for the enemy ships in the hex during the night phase. Other mines were dropped in the shallow straits further north, affecting movement from the far northern enemy bases.

The US artillery attack at Hiroshima showed that the enemy has indeed strongly reinforced Hiroshima. There's too much defense to consider an attack now. But this is as planned. More troops to be bagged when they are cut off shortly.

The US artillery attack just north of Hiroshima did better, but the odds here, in poor terrain, aren't great either. The artillery will continue here also.

I won't finish my turn until Tuesday afternoon. I'll post a screenshot then. It's a big turn. 6 divisions to land at Tottori. I did my first good recon of Tottori, and found just one enemy unit with 9720 men, 35 guns and no vehicles. It will be taken with the first attack after landing. It will be a day known forever. D-Day, the 5th of June.

I've moved 300 air transports to Kurume, where I have my paratroopers ready, including the US 11th Airborne Division. I don't have a target for them yet, but that could develop quickly.




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/29/2020 8:52:16 PM)

4 Jun 44 - Japan

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apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/31/2020 5:46:38 PM)

5 Jun 44

All troops unloaded at Tottori in one day. 6 divisions plus many other units. I used 2 AGC command ships, in separate task forces. I don't know if 2 is better than 1 with helping unloading the troops faster, but it can't hurt. 2 APA's suffered moderate damage from a collision. 2 LSTs and 2 LCIs suffered minor damage from grounding.

The US air attack on Osaka was successful. About 73 Tojos on CAP. Tojos can be managed a lot easier than the Franks and Georges. About 100 Hellcats from the carriers swept first. The Hellcats prevailed but took losses. P-47s came in afterwards and found fewer than 10 Tojos still flying. All enemy planes were downed. B-24s and B-29s hit the airbase and the city. Seemed like most of the planes weren't there at the time.

Big enemy effort against invasion shipping at Tottori. Many enemy bomber raids came in unescorted. Initial CAP was tremendous, showing 35 Hellcat Is, 6 Seafires, 234 FM-2s, 124 F4U-1As, and 300 Hellcats. Most of the Hellcats were ranged CAP from the big carriers nearby, and this ranged CAP dwindled quickly over the course of the raids.

Estimated attackers were:
36 A6M2 Sen Baku
36 Judys
36 Judys with 80 Georges (the Georges were tough but the fighters got through)
36 Oscars with 35 Tonys (probably kamikaze Oscars)
30 Frances and 23 Judys
36 Judys
71 Frances
27 Lilys
13 Oscars with 11 Tonys (probably kamikaze Oscars)
18 Judys

In the afternoon:
17 Judys
11 Frances with 48 Georges

Total air losses:

96 Judys
74 Frances
46 Oscars
44 A6M2 Sen Baku
39 Tonys
38 Lilys
34 Tojos
22 Anns (search or ASW losses)
16 Georges
12 Jakes (search or ASW losses)
9 Sallys (search or ASW losses)
7 Nells (search or ASW losses)
2 Rex (search or ASW losses)
1 Alf (seach or ASW loss)

Allied losses were:
41 Hellcats
3 P-47s
3 Hellcat Is
2 F4U-1As


3 US aces were KIA. There were 15 new aces, 3 new double aces and 3 ace-in-a-day.

In another part of the world, Brunei was captured. Troops start to move to Miri.

Ground combat at Brunei (65,87)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5759 troops, 34 guns, 104 vehicles, Assault Value = 335

Defending force 2837 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 91

Allied adjusted assault: 126

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Brunei !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1562 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (9 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
14th LRP Brigade
18th Cavalry Regiment
16th LRP Brigade
98th Indian Brigade

Defending units:
30th Division
Kure 2nd SNLF
1st Sasebo SNLF Coy


[EDIT: I left off the pointer to where I think the enemy ships are hiding in the north. I think it is Bihoro on the north side of Hokkaido]

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BBfanboy -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/31/2020 6:44:36 PM)

Congrats on a significant victory! The number of aircraft downed alone should put you close to Auto-vic. It looks like at least one unit is trying to leave the Hiroshima hex heading east. Could be a non-combat unit or he is trying to reinforce the adjoining hex? Either way, less for your Hiroshima troops to shoot at so more bullets to beat the remaining enemy and take the base. Looking very good everywhere.[:)]




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/31/2020 7:01:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Congrats on a significant victory! The number of aircraft downed alone should put you close to Auto-vic. It looks like at least one unit is trying to leave the Hiroshima hex heading east. Could be a non-combat unit or he is trying to reinforce the adjoining hex? Either way, less for your Hiroshima troops to shoot at so more bullets to beat the remaining enemy and take the base. Looking very good everywhere.[:)]


The score is 78,589 to 26,542. I'm keeping up with the strategic bombing to keep the score increasing some. I haven't paid much attention to the score during the game, but it's worth tracking now as I think we'll have a Japanese surrender when the 3 to 1 is achieved. Just speculation though.




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/31/2020 10:07:06 PM)

The End

Details on the last turn to follow, along with the beginning of the discussion of the war in general. I've invited OPilot into the thread to discuss his side of things. I've already learned from him that my early capture and destruction of the oil fields did not cause his economy to collapse. He still had plenty of fuel. From what I've heard, he played a masterful game with the Japanese economy. I hope that he discusses this further here.

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GetAssista -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/31/2020 10:35:21 PM)

Congrats on a great game and AAR that went all the way and made it very early too!




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (12/31/2020 10:48:11 PM)

6 Jun 44

One of the British minefields is found, the one up by Ominato.

Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fumizuki, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
DD Satsuki, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese Ships
E Kyosai, Mine hits 1, heavy damage



6 slow US battleships bombarded Tottori, causing 1114 casualties. The enemy didn't interfere with the few ships landing unit fragments at Tottori. US carrier bombers hit the enemy at Okayama. Land based bombers did also.

In one of the most lopsided large battles that I can remember, Tottori is captured. MacArthur was on Kyushu supporting the attack with his HQ. The enemy was completely eliminated.

Ground combat at Tottori (109,58)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 80026 troops, 1359 guns, 1371 vehicles, Assault Value = 2701

Defending force 11088 troops, 68 guns, 111 vehicles, Assault Value = 332

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 8382

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 8382 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tottori !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
12130 casualties reported
Squads: 433 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 538 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 78 (78 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 130 (130 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4

Allied ground losses:
1110 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 36 destroyed, 23 disabled
Guns lost 23 (2 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 66 (4 destroyed, 62 disabled)

Assaulting units:
18th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
5th USMC Tank Battalion
6th Infantry Division
33rd Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
4th Marine Division
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
50th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
43rd Infantry Division
4th USMC Tank Battalion
1st Arm Amphib Battalion
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
Eighth US Army
76th Coast AA Regiment
715th AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
50th Coastal Artillery Regiment
3rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
14th Marine AA Battalion
726th AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
154th Field Artillery Battalion
728th AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
727th AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
47th Coastal Artillery Regiment
I US Corps
2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
98th Field Artillery Battalion
15th Marine AA Battalion

Defending units:
64th Inf Group Brigade
8th Tank Regiment
9th Armored Car Co
52nd Naval Guard Unit


Hiroshima has obviously been reinforced.

Ground combat at Hiroshima/Kure (106,58)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38437 troops, 669 guns, 478 vehicles, Assault Value = 2007

Defending force 71011 troops, 855 guns, 385 vehicles, Assault Value = 1712

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
41st Infantry Division
31st Infantry Division
776th Amphib Tank Battalion
5th Marine Division
93rd Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
1st USMC Tank Battalion
766th Tank Battalion
819th Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
601st Field Artillery Battalion
XI US Corps
97th Field Artillery Battalion
602nd Field Artillery Battalion
18th Marine AA Battalion
6th Medium Regiment

Defending units:
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
16th Ind.Mixed Regiment
5th Depot Division
17th Ind.Mixed Regiment
51st Naval Guard Unit
5th South Seas Det.
6th Depot Division
18th Tank Regiment
Kure 3rd SNLF
50th Division
52nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
56th Depot Division
Kure Naval Base Force
81st Field AA Battalion
71st Field AA Battalion
Western Army
14th Air Fleet
20th AA Regiment
8th Field Construction Battalion
47th Const Co
77th Field AA Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
8th Area Army
29th Fld AA Gun Co
6th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
14th Army
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
22nd Air Defense AA Regiment
33rd Field Const Co
23rd Ind.AA Gun Co
68th Field AA Battalion
102nd Machine Canno AA Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
31st Special Base Force
10th Special Base Force
3rd Medium Mortar Battalion
29th Army
23rd Air Defense AA Regiment
51st IMB AA Battalion
209th JAAF AF Bn


North of Hiroshima has enemy reinforcements also. All to plan, and all would have been cut off very soon.

Ground combat at 105,57 (near Hiroshima/Kure)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37961 troops, 568 guns, 470 vehicles, Assault Value = 1692

Defending force 52650 troops, 499 guns, 220 vehicles, Assault Value = 1299

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Marine Division
1st (Spec) Cavalry Division
2nd Marine Division
193rd Tank Battalion
1st Marine Division
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
Sixth US Army
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
145th Field Artillery Battalion
225th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
138th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
53rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
109th Division
50th Ind.Mixed Brigade
86th Division
12th Division
42nd Ind Engineer Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
6th Field Construction Battalion
101st AA Regiment
7th Area Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
32nd Army
Oita JNAF Base Force


Paras drop on Okayama and could not take the base. They would have been fine, though. With Tottori taken, Okayama would be reinforced in 2 days.

With the war over, I'll do a summary of the war from my side. Once we wrap up the discussion, I'll start to think about the next war. OPilot and I will be switching sides.




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/1/2021 12:07:23 AM)

Summary of the War

Two and a half years of the war played, in two and a half years of real time. OPilot has my highest recommendations as an opponent. His play is solid. I'm now learning that he has had a high degree of attention to detail to playing the Japanese economy. He's good for a turn a day, just about every day. For years. And we've seen that he's willing to play to the end. Playing well after losing most of his carriers in a big carrier battle. We both wanted to see the invasion of Japan, and we did so.

It's been a long war. I can't remember all the details, especially of the early war, but it's all documented here. The beginning was highlighted by the escape from the Philippines for ARD Dewey. Yea, I'm not a great wargamer, but I can sure drive an ARD across the Pacific! That was great fun. It was like watching a train wreck about to happen in slow motion, except that Dewey actually escaped.

Early on, we had a carrier battle in the either the Marshalls or the Gilberts. The sides were fairly evenly matched. The US got a big strike through to the enemy carriers, which had a weak CAP up. But the weather was bad. Bomb hits were spread amongst many carriers, and none were hit severely. Luck was with OPilot that the weather played a role.

In the Marshalls, Yamato and Musashi were sunk. I got to Guadalcanal first and held. At this point, I wanted a 2 area war: east and west of New Guinea. The plan was that KB could not be in both places at once. After clearing the Marshalls, I set my sites on Truk. But this was my secondary interest, with my big carriers being west of New Guinea, with the push through Horn Island and on to Darwin and Timor. Troops were on transports at Ponape to invade Truk, but enemy battleships were at Truk, and my secondary force of mostly CVLs/CVEs didn't have the punch to break through the CAP at Truk and hit the battleships. So I cancelled the Truk invasion. From that point on, the focus was solely an advance north from Australia through Timor and beyond.

Meanwhile, the Chinese were getting their butts kicked regularly. They did generally manage to hold lines in poor terrain. OPilot pushed on Sian and took it. He pushed further north to Lanchow but could not take it. The sole reason that Lanchow held was that the Burma Road had been opened and there was now enough supply in China for defensive operations.

And that was made possible with the invasion of Burma near and at Rangoon. It was a huge operation, using ordinary xAPs and xAKs, just hundreds of them. It took a long time to put in motion. I converted many xAKs to xAPs for the operation. I remember sending xAPs from the Pearl Harbor area to go to Aden for the operation. It took months to prepare. British, Indian, Australian and Commonwealth troops were involved. And most importantly, 2 big Chinese corps. They were the ones bought out in pieces and brought out of China at the very beginning of the war. They gathered in India, grew and rested. Taking Rangoon and that area of Burma had the primary goal of opening up the Burma Road, and in that, it was successful. It was not successful in cutting off the Japanese in northern Burma. I put too many units as a blocking force to the south, and not enough to race north and cut the enemy off. They escaped, eventually, by heading east and then southeast into Thailand. But Burma was cleared, and a land route was opened to China. This saved northern China, with just a week or two to spare. Up until this point, all of northern China was out of supply, every day.

I committed to go to Java from Timor. I did so, expecting KB to intervene. They were spotted loitering near Balikpapan for a number of days in a row. But they did not come south. Enemy battleships did, and there were some intense surface battles. The landings were protected. When my carriers were retiring east near Soerabaja, KB continued to hang around Balikpapan. I decided that it was time to strike. Up until then, I had avoided the big carrier battle. Time was on my side. More time equaled more US carriers available. I struck north and decimated KB in a 2 day battle. I don't know the exact number of big Japanese carriers sunk. I estimate 6. This was the turning point of the war.

OPilot had some "wins" in the game. My not being able to invade Truk was a win for him, even though he didn't know it at the time. I invaded Ambon with the 2nd Marine Division, which was my best division, and almost took Ambon, but terrain and forts slowed the progress, and OPilot committed KB to protecting Ambon and escorting in a fresh division for defense. (This was before the big carrier battle near Balikpapan.) I was not willing to commit my carriers for Ambon, so the Marines were stuck there. Too strong to be defeated, but too weak to win. It was stalemate for many months. That was a win for OPilot.

From Java, I pushed north through Balikpapan, with the plan being to take Jolo and Zamboanga, but bypass Mindanao. Jolo and Zamboanga turned out to be barely defended, and my divisions were available quickly. I committed 2 to Mindanao. I was able to clear all of Mindanao, could never clear Davao, all the way to the end of the war. I was never able to get the enemy out of supply at Davao. They had had a huge stockpile, according to my discussion with OPilot. That was a win for him.

The troops on Java went to Luzon, and that went very smoothly and quickly. I sensed an opportunity and pushed other troops to invade Formosa after taking Manila but before Luzon was cleared. That worked out very well. Formosa fell easily and that completely cut off the South China Sea.

The Americans and British invaded the Chinese coast near Formosa. The plan was to take Canton and Hong Kong, and get the Americans out of China as soon as possible. The roads were poor from the coast to Hong Kong, so travel took awhile, but the Brits did that job. Canton, however, could not be taken. A mostly Chinese force of over 200,000 could not come close to taking Canton with over 130,000 enemy troops trapped there. The Americans had pushed north, to the east of Canton, and linked up with the Chinese. The enemy had retreated back into Canton, and there they remained to the end of the war, bombed and hit by British cruisers every day. The Americans could have pushed east towards Shanghai, but the plan was to extract them and prepare to invade Japan. Other troops had island hopped from Formosa to the east to Okinawa. All of the US Army and Marine divisions, except for 2 newly arriving ones, went to Japan. Kyushu was conquered more easily than expected, a crossing was made to Hokkaido and finally a huge landing at Tottori was about to cut off all of the enemy near Hiroshima.

B-29s were used to bomb strategically, for the most part. Taking Formosa opened up much of Japan for strategic bombing. Taking Kyushu made it much easier, with fighters sweeping the way for the B-29s. I'll have to check how many B-29s were lost in the war. It was fewer than 10.

That's my start on the discussion. I talked to OPilot on the phone earlier, and will be calling him back to complete our talk. He's welcome to continue the discussion here. As I'd said, I've learned that his economy was running just fine, and that he would have been fine to at least the end of 1944, which surprised me. I thought I had cut off the bulk of his oil early enough to make a big difference, but he says that it did not. He must have done a masterful job running the Japanese economy, and I hope that he can discuss what he did and how he did it. I've seen the Japanese economy collapse, and that was what I was trying to help happen. That economic plan failed while my military plans succeeded.




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/1/2021 3:56:18 AM)

Game Stats

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apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/1/2021 5:10:31 AM)

The Japanese lost 87 destroyers. The Allies lost 26:

US-20
British-3
Australian-2
French-1

15 Allied subs were lost:

British-1
Dutch-3
US-11 (1 SST, 2 S-Boats, 8 Fleet boats)

I lost no APA's despite using them for every major invasion. Had a handful damaged, but none lost. They were instrumental in landing large numbers of troops in a single day, which let the invasion shipping leave the area quickly. If surprise had been achieved, the risk was greatly reduced to the landing ships and the carriers and supporting ships. Key to success.




Q-Ball -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/1/2021 7:36:15 PM)

Congratulations on finishing to the end! Good AAR, do another one from the Imperial side!




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/1/2021 7:45:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Congratulations on finishing to the end! Good AAR, do another one from the Imperial side!


Thanks Q-Ball. I will do another AAR. They are pretty much just the facts of what has happened, day by day, and what I am thinking. My good plans and my poor execution. I think there is some value in it to read. Always something to learn, no matter how long one's been playing this game.

It's funny, for many years I played the Japanese side primarily, finding it easier to get Allied opponents than Japanese ones. My last couple of games have been as the Allied. The next game, as the Japanese, will be my first Japanese game with PDU-OFF, which I still prefer. The Allied side is so much easier to play mentally for me. No matter how bad things can be early on, you know how much help is on the way and that things will get better. With the Japanese, one is just one "Midway" away from losing so much and having to survive till the end. It takes a different attitude as the Japanese player. OPilot managed do hang in there, despite losing so many carriers near Balikpapan. I will fight to the bitter end as the Japanese player in my next run.




apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/1/2021 7:46:59 PM)

OPilot is reading this AAR now from the beginning. I hope that he makes some comments when he is done reading.




Evoken -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/1/2021 7:53:40 PM)

Congrats with the very early victory , i enjoyed reading this AAR looking forward to your new games and hopefully AAR's!




Sardaukar -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/2/2021 7:21:08 PM)

Great AAR!




CaptBeefheart -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/4/2021 12:23:40 AM)

Congratulations! Well played. I think you showed how an early invasion of the Home Islands meets a lot less opposition than it would have in 1945.

Would be interesting to hear OPilot's thoughts. Good on him for taking it to failure.

Cheers,
CB




BBfanboy -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (1/4/2021 3:13:52 AM)

I went back through your AAR. The first big Carrier clash was on 14 May 43 (on page 43) and the big clash was 20 Aug 43 on page 50. The first one did more damage to your ships but he lost tremendous numbers of aircraft, and especially the highly trained carrier pilots. The second clash he had some of his carriers absent, possibly just leaving Japan to join KB in the DEI when you surprised him by moving into the battle instead of staying with your landings. Your pilots were clearly superior and you had more aircraft. You got basically a double-Midway result.




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