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Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/6/2018 2:05:21 PM)

Hi Mayhemizer.

I'm about sending 2 CV to Med, so the nava war in the North Sea is over by now.
I will search in any sea zone I can.
Do you want Wavell in France?



Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/6/2018 2:07:43 PM)

We have 2 entry chits in Ge/It pool.
Both high.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/6/2018 6:07:26 PM)

I take a look tonight. No aggressions yet so that we don’t lose thosr chits.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/6/2018 8:52:46 PM)

No special actions yet, USSR need to move one unit before claiming Bessarabia.

If Italian units are not advancing Egypt and you have enough units there, France loves the idea getting another HQ and more CW units.

I guess all transporters in Europe are used so CW can't send any units to Rotterdam?

In China, Nat Communist should have 2 units in Chengchow or Japs destroy that GAR easily. Japanese units are focusing south, Nationalist are in trouble. Retreat in order, double stack in mountains if possible and choose blitz table if possible (if you can retreat) to save units.


There is not much France or USSR can do, here are instructions:

No DoW or special actions.

USSR and France combined.

Naval move
France sends 2x BB from Marseilles to West Med box 3.

We can try to sink that Italian ship in West Med.

Rail move
French 5-3 INF from Marseilles to 55,31 same hex with HQ Billote.

Land move
USSR
5-4 INF on Manchurian border hex 59,162 to 62,160 with another 5-4 INF.
Mongolian CAV 3 hexes north to 51,134.
3-4 CAV in southern Poland one hex SW to 56,50.


I don't think there is anything else France can do but wait...



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/12/2018 8:15:00 PM)

May I suggest US to place chit on German pool? USSR is up to some aggression...

Axis are going to attack in Mediterranean, German division is in Trieste. Also Italian TERR in flanking towards Cairo.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/13/2018 6:02:10 AM)

I’m not sure if Wavell makes it to France any time soon, trasporters are in North Sea and they can’t return anywhere but UK. CW can use trasporters to bring units to Belgium/France when Germany attacks (next impulse) and make sure with Wavell that Egypt does not fall.

Can CW send one oil and a couple of BPs or resources to France? That would help France survive little longer.



Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/13/2018 5:25:36 PM)

Hello Mayhemizer.

Of course I Will send you the resouces you ask me for.

I could send two trans to Giraltar at RTB. I can then send one TRA to Port Said, an the other at sea with the fleet, for naval reorg.

I Italy doesn´t send her fleet to sea, I could send Wavell to France.

Talking about Russia, you can do whatever you want. I´ve pick an extra chit, it was low, and the one picked to tension pool was high,
so it doesn´t matter if we lost the chits.

I think that chosing the option of sending resources was worthy enough.


Carlos.




Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/23/2018 10:24:15 AM)

Hi mayhemizer.

I´m thinking about sending 2 CVs, a Ftr and some bombers to Med.

Of course, I´ll send the AUS TERR to Egypt.

Will you claim Bessarabia now?

Carlos



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/23/2018 10:50:53 AM)

I could, but turn may end (unlikely but possible) before our next impulse. So I need to wait next turn. I can’t invade during snow, otherwise taking Rumani would be easy.

We are having midsummer festival here in Finland, I come online Sunday evening.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/25/2018 6:44:06 AM)

When Germany attacks Belgium, I suggest standard set up (CAV to Liege, 2x INF units to Antwerp and CPs to somewhere far away).

USSR has placed CAV one hex too far to west. I need to move that and take Bessarabia next turn, it is possible even if bad weather continues. After that I rebase planes and attack Persia.

Things look bad in China. Nationalist should retreat, Communist will move unit to thread NE China, Japan need to send some units there to block it. Chungking MIL should go to Nanyang, it is in supply there.


Instructions for impulse:

USSR and France combined.

Naval move
France sends CP from Algiers to Bay of Biscay.

Rail move
USSR rail MOT div from Vilna to Leningrad.

Land move

USSR
CAV in Poland 56,50 to 56,51
Mongolian CAV to 49,134
Com Chinese 5-3 INF from Tungkwan to 75,141 (NW of Chengchow)

France
MIL from Paris to 54,31
MIL from Lyons to 56,31

Rebase
France rebase bomber one hex SE to 56,33



Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/25/2018 10:50:30 AM)

Excuse me Mayhemizer, but the mongolian CAV is already in 49,134.

Tell me where to go.




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/25/2018 12:04:56 PM)

My bad. CAV goes NE towards city.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/28/2018 3:33:26 PM)

30% chance to end turn, 50% with full pass.

There are few thing Allies might want to do.

France:
Send CPs to west and east Med to get Iraq oil for production.

CW:
1) Send empty TRS from UK to Cape St. Vincent box 0, so that it can return to Egypt and bring ARM HQ to France next turn.
2) Send CA to North Sea and Faroes Gap. Always keep one unit on those sea areas or German ships can sail to North Atlantic when they are based to Kiel. We are playing with "In The Presence Of The Enemy" so those CAs will stop that raid.
3) Send CV from UK to Gibraltar, unless you already sent it. This came to my mind after closing the game.

USSR:
Move Com Chinese HQ to Tungkwan and MIL from Tungkwan two hexes east. 5-3 INF one hex NE. NExt turn I get INF to supply and can move it twice before it is disorganized.

Nationalist Chinese:
Retreat towards Chungking with every unit that can move (except with Warlords and 4-1 GAR in Chengchow).


What do you think about these?



Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/29/2018 8:36:16 PM)

Hello Mayhemizer.

Two CVs are already in W. med and another one in Gibraltar. Only one rest in Britain.

I will send 2 TRAs to S. Vicent, so I could trans 2 planes, a FTR and a BOM to Med. 1 Trans will came back to Britain, and the other to Egypt.

Ok?



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (6/29/2018 8:45:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Pacetti

Hello Mayhemizer.

Two CVs are already in W. med and another one in Gibraltar. Only one rest in Britain.

I will send 2 TRAs to S. Vicent, so I could trans 2 planes, a FTR and a BOM to Med. 1 Trans will came back to Britain, and the other to Egypt.

Ok?


Sounds like a plan. Remember to send transporters to box 0 so that it reaches Egypt.

Also send some weak CAs to North Sea and Faroes Gap.

You can play impulse and do French and USSR moves. I think France has CPs in Syria and Casablanca.



Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/1/2018 9:30:37 AM)

Hello, Mayhemizer.

Are you going to initiate combat?



Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/1/2018 9:32:51 AM)

Sorry, I forgot they doesn´t exist.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/1/2018 10:59:49 AM)

Oops, I thought Italian FTR is disorganized. They will intercept with NAV.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/4/2018 8:19:52 PM)

Here are my instructions for new impulse. I can also play this impulse if you have less actions to do.


No DoW.

France and USSR combined.

France sends CP from Casablanca to West Med.

French bomber attack Munich landing back to same hex where it starts (56,33).

Land moves

USSR
Com Chinese MIL to Tungkwan.
Com Chinese HQ one hex west to mountain.

France
MIL in 56,31 (woods) to 53,30 (SE of Lille)

Now all Nat Chinese units can run to west, most likely turn ends. I suggest to take risk with 3-4 CAV and move one hex west.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/8/2018 8:48:50 PM)

About escorts... I think CW should keep 2 ships in 0 box and 2 ships in higher box ready to drop down next turn. One ship in box 0 does not effect to submarines enough.

Note that German ships can return to Kiel, including AMPH. I wonder why they bring that too, are they going to UK? You need to keep some land units (1-2) in UK always. And keep ship on North Sea at the end of every turn.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/9/2018 6:03:57 AM)

All German ships went to Kiel. They also built PARA div. CW must be carefull with possible attack to UK. At least if all units leave UK they might attack even if it’s not a plan at the moment.



Pacetti -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/13/2018 4:14:30 PM)

Hello Mayhemizer.

We move first this turn.

China is taking land, of course, but CW will take naval.

I´ll send Wawell to France. Tell me the units you would like to form BEF II.


Any russian DOW or special action?



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/13/2018 4:38:23 PM)

I have been on holiday, I take a look tonight or tomorrow. I’m on my way to home now.

Did you send save file at the start of the turn?



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/14/2018 1:29:53 PM)

Instructions for USSR/France and some suggestions.

USSR claims Bessarabia. If that is denied, all USSR plans will be redone.

USSR combined, France naval.

I suggest CW sends Wavell to Bay of Bengal on transporter and debarks him to Bayonne where he is safe. You can debark him this impulse if you choose combined or next impulse if you choose naval. Don't sail to southern France ports, Axis naval bombers in Italy will attack.

I suggest CW sends to France 2 of following units: MOT, INF or London MIL. I would say INF and MIL, but MOT is in Plymouth and TRS can sail to Bay of Biscay where it is safe from Kriegsmarine.

Maybe naval is good option so that you can get escorts to all seas, weather is bad and Germany may send submarines now and attack Belgium when weather is better.


Naval moves for France
Transporter from Brest to Cape Verde Basin box 0, load MIL on it.
3x BB from Marseilles to West Med box 3.
2x BB and CA from Oran to West Med box 3.
CA in West Med box 1 to box 0.
Sub from Marseilles to Italian coast bo 2. No need for CW to send sub this impulse, France takes hit if Axis find.

4x CA in Casablanca are free for CW to use as escorts in Cape St. Vincent and Cape Verde Basin. Maybe 2x 5 speed to CSV box 4 and 2x 6 speed to CVB box 4.
CA from Aden to East Med box 4.
2x CP from Aden to Beirut.

France initiates combat on Italian coast.

Rail move
USSR rail 5-1 GAR from Kiev to Cernauti.

Land move
Sian MIL one hex east with HQ.

3-4 CAV in Poland to 52,52 woods.
ENG from Odessa to 57,57.
INF from 56,55 toi Odessa.
3-2 ARt to Chisinau.


I suggest Nat Chinese give up Nanyang and send MIL to Chengchow, that why their units live longer. Or MIL try to escape west, 1 hex this impulse and 2 hexes next impulse.

Rebase for USSR
TB-3 to Baku.
SB-2bis to Tilfis.
Pe-2 to Batum.
IL-4 to Baku.

Rebase for France
FTR from Paris to 56,31 woods.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/25/2018 3:16:59 PM)

About aborted combat. With all CPs sink or aborted, Allies should stay. Sub can’t really hurt cruisers, but cruisers can sink sub. Now we can send new CPs but without escorts.



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/29/2018 8:32:36 AM)

France and USSR combined

No naval moves, no naval combat in West Med, unless CW send enough planes and CW want to fight, then French ships can take all possible damage to save CW ships.

French bomber bombs factories in Munich and lands back to same hex.

Rail moves
French Bordeaux MIL from Bordeaux to Marseilles.
USSR 3-1 GAR from Minsk to Brest-Litovsk in Poland.

Land move
USSR
2-1 GAR in 57,55 to Chisinau
2-3 INF div from Odessa to 55,54
2-3 AT gun adjacent to Odessa goes to Odessa
MECH from 55,53 to woods 53,50

In China Sian MIL to 77,139

No land moves for France.


Air rebase
Pe-2 from Batum to Baku
SB-2bis from Tiflis to west of Baku 68,77



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/29/2018 8:38:36 AM)

I just noticed, that attack to Persia is not automatic, as ARM HQ don't reach capital [X(]

Well, there is not turning back and reinforcements are too far to be railed. So attack will be done with minor risk.

Odds are pretty good, I get 4:1 attack. With ground strikes I try to hit so that defender gets automatically killed even if I lose both attacking units (10% chance). Even if I lose both, HQ can take capital.




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/29/2018 8:40:27 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

Hello all,

I hope you all enjoy following us to the victory!

This is the place where we plan how do beat Orm and Peskpesk.


USSR has a plan, please let me know if there is mistake in my plans I don't understand:

USSR places 3 units to Persian border. On fine weather (1st impulse of the turn) USSR attacks and Persia places 3 strength CAV to capital. USSR attacks on surprise impulse using bombers to make attack 30:3 = automatic.

If CAV is placed anywhere else, USSR ground strikes CAV and goes around it to Teheran.

Nothing can go wrong? Right?

We have motorized movement optional rule, so ARM HQ need 4 movement to get adjacent to Teheran.

[image]local://upfiles/39586/90E0095525A0485B9B943A7076936B4C.jpg[/image]

So nobody pointed out that with Motorized movement it takes more than 4 MP to reach Teheran? [:)]

We are good anyway [;)]



Centuur -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/29/2018 9:47:57 AM)

It's even worse. What if the Persians decide not to put the CAV in the capital, but in the mountains, making it twice as strong? If you attack it, than you might get disorganised and next turn that pesky MIL turns up in Teheran.

That's why you always need a 4 moving INF at the most southern mountain hex next to the Caspian Sea south of Baku. It forces the Persians to setup the CAV in Teheran...



Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans (7/29/2018 9:54:06 AM)

If it’s on mountais, can’t I just ground stike it with all planes and run with CAV around it (if I attack at the start of summer turn)? Or can Japanese send peacekeeper to southern port and rail it to Teheran?

Next turn ski div is coming, it has move 4. That should help?



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