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Chickenboy -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 3:37:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LST Express

National museum of the Pacific war, Fredericksburg Texas.


Yup. Been there 4 or 5 times now. It's a 'must see' if you're anywhere near the Austin or San Antonio area.



geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:11:17 PM)

I had been to the ordinance museum at Aberdeen Proving grounds but they moved all the stuff to Ft. Lee, VA. Besides all the vehicles they have some huge railguns.



geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:22:09 PM)

I've been meaning to visit the Artillery museum at Ft. Sill, OK. They have a lot of self-propelled stuff I'd really like to see.

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geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:36:45 PM)

In one trip, you can see the North Carolina in Wilmington, the Yorktown in Charleston along with Ft. Sumter.

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geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:37:11 PM)

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geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:45:55 PM)

Also while at Charleston you can see the USS Laffey

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geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:46:32 PM)

And the USS Clamagore

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geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:47:19 PM)

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geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:51:03 PM)

In Philadelphia you can see the USS Olympia

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geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 4:58:02 PM)

In Baltimore you can see the USS Constellation. In Mobile you can see the USS Alabama. In Galveston You can see the USS Texas. In Portland OR you can see the USS Blueback. Her interior was used in the movie Hunt for Red October

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geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 5:07:48 PM)

At Vicksburg you can visit the battlefield and also see the USS Cairo, a Civil War ironclad. On the same trip you can visit the Shiloh battlefield and Forts Donelson and Henry

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wegman58 -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 5:41:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


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IF you go to Mount Rushmore, a side trip (depending on where you come from 10-15 minutes out of the way, about an hour to walk around) to Ellsworth AFB might be worth the trip unless you've seen statics before. B-29 and other stuff.

Washington, DC - the Smithsonian Air and Space. Natural History Museum is cool - they have a Foucault pendulum (proves the world moves).

NYC - the INTREPID and their museum of Natural History.


I think they removed the pendulum. I've been there numerous times since 2010 and never seen it. So far as I know, I've seen the whole thing...


I was there a LONG time ago - we were still flying men to the moon. Maybe they removed it, which is a shame if so.



Lokasenna -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 6:06:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: wegman58


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


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ORIGINAL: wegman58

IF you go to Mount Rushmore, a side trip (depending on where you come from 10-15 minutes out of the way, about an hour to walk around) to Ellsworth AFB might be worth the trip unless you've seen statics before. B-29 and other stuff.

Washington, DC - the Smithsonian Air and Space. Natural History Museum is cool - they have a Foucault pendulum (proves the world moves).

NYC - the INTREPID and their museum of Natural History.


I think they removed the pendulum. I've been there numerous times since 2010 and never seen it. So far as I know, I've seen the whole thing...


I was there a LONG time ago - we were still flying men to the moon. Maybe they removed it, which is a shame if so.



If you really need to see a Foucault pendulum, there's one in Des Moines at the Science Center [;)].



Anachro -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 6:20:19 PM)

There's also a pendulum at the Boston Museum of Science, which is a great place to take the kids. I certainly loved going there, but its probably been more than a decade since I went.

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And if we can delve beyond military stuff, I really enjoy going to the MFA in Boston, the Met in NYC - world class museums, but of course most already know of them. When I was in London, beyond all the major ones (War Mus, British Mus), I really enjoyed visiting the Arthur Wellesley's house and the National Army Museum.

If you are ever in Los Angeles, definitely visit the Getty Villa and not just the art museum (which is also good). I also like the La Brea Tar Pits and the Natural History Museum.

In Japan, I enjoyed visiting the Yasukuni Shrine and accompanying museum, but you certainly need to be mindful of the very warped view of the war (propaganda) that some of the exhibits espouse. The same can certainly be said for the PRC's museum on the Sino-Japanese war in Beijing, which I have also visited.



BBfanboy -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 6:49:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

In one trip, you can see the North Carolina in Wilmington, the Yorktown in Charleston along with Ft. Sumter.

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Some of the other sites on the map raise questions ...

1. Haven't they overcome their fear of capes after all these years of college?
2. Are you one of the contributors to the Museum of the Bizarre?
3. How do they arrange the exchange of cottons with each other? I always throw out my cotton batting after I use them to blot up blood.



geofflambert -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 7:00:39 PM)

You misunderstand. Cape Fear is where all the superheroes gather who don't wear capes, like The Tick.



Zorch -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 7:01:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

In one trip, you can see the North Carolina in Wilmington, the Yorktown in Charleston along with Ft. Sumter.


Some of the other sites on the map raise questions ...

1. Haven't they overcome their fear of capes after all these years of college?
2. Are you one of the contributors to the Museum of the Bizarre?
3. How do they arrange the exchange of cottons with each other? I always throw out my cotton batting after I use them to blot up blood.

It's Cape Feare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WZLJpMOxS4

I'll take the Mutter Museum in Phila. over the Museum of the Bizarre.

I never use cotton - it absorbs moisture.



panzer cat -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 11:11:15 PM)

Military Aviation Museum in Virginia Beach. WW2 original aircraft and they build WW1 biplanes.



nashvillen -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 11:34:59 PM)

I agree with the Gorn and USS Mike. There are a lot of ships around that are great places to visit. To add to the list:

USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA
USS Alabama in Mobile, AL
LST-325 in Evansville, IN or on one of its many cruises.
USS Texas in Houston, TX (make it quick, if they don't do something she will be sinking in the mud)



Anachro -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/27/2018 11:40:26 PM)

USS Alabama in Mobile is a great place to stop by if you are on your way from NOLA to the beaches of Destin, FL.



spence -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/28/2018 2:01:00 AM)

USCGC Taney is a museum ship in Baltimore. She was the last serving ship afloat who was at Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941. Her Aviation Officer was OOD for base Pearl Harbor on Dec 6th and hadn't gotten relieved yet on Dec 7th when the first bombs fell in fact(her a/c were removed prior to WW2 but recently enough that she still had an Aviation Officer assigned). She served in both the Atlantic and the Pacific (started in the Pacific, got an AA upgrade and moved to the Atlantic, got another upgrade to an AGC then went back to the Pacific.

The USCGC Ingham is the same class and is a museum ship in Key West, FL. Two of her sisters are nearby functioning as fish sanctuaries and diving destinations (CGC Bibb and CGC Duane). CGC Ingham served in the Atlantic in 1942-44 and is credited with sinking a German U-boat. She later functioned as an AGC in the Pacific for the invasions of Mindinao, Luzon and Okinawa.

Both Taney and Ingham are 327 foot Treasury Class cutters. Six of the class were assigned initially to escorting convoys to/from England in the early days of WW2 (for the US). They were the largest most capable escort ships assigned during the first and second winters of the war (the US Navy was concentrating on the Pacific - most of the Navy ships assigned as convoy escorts were obsolescent). CGCs Spencer, Ingham and Campbell each sank a Uboat (the Spencer's sinking was recorded in LIFE Magazines April 1943 issue). CGC Alexander Hamilton was sunk by a Uboat.

I served on both the CGC Duane and CGC Bibb (Treasury Class). On Duane I had custody of the War Diaries which were mostly boring but included the reports of interrogations of the German prisoners taken when CGC Spencer sank U-175 (Duane picked up 22 - interesting reading). On Bibb I "found" a WW2 scrapbook dating from 1943 when a locker broke away from the bulkhead in my stateroom. Cool pictures of "dungaree chiefs" and Casablanca in 1943.






Lovejoy -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/28/2018 5:44:49 AM)

If you're in Charleston, See the Clamagore while you can. It's going to be taken out and sunk as a reef



patrickl -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/28/2018 7:27:29 AM)

If you come to Singapore, do visit Fort Siloso located on Sentosa Island. The guns are still here. A website telling it : http://www.fortsiloso.com/

The attraction website : https://www.sentosa.com.sg/explore/attractions/fort-siloso



Chickenboy -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/28/2018 6:40:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Anachro

USS Alabama in Mobile is a great place to stop by if you are on your way from NOLA to the beaches of Destin, FL.


Don't you mean the USS Indianapolis? [8|]



dave sindel -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/29/2018 12:09:56 PM)

I was in France for a vacation the last two weeks of April. One of the highlights for me was getting to see the Normandy beaches, and the American Cemetery overlooking Omaha Beach. I also took in the Memorial Museum of the Battle of Normandy in Bayeux. Very interesting and informative. This museum focuses on the entire Normandy campaign - not just the D-Day landings. It certainly increased my knowledge and understanding of the whole battle.




fcooke -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/29/2018 1:46:09 PM)

American resting place is amazing. The German one nearby is also certainly worth a visit. There are a bunch of small museums in Normandy worth a visit but don't know their names. You sort of drive around and bump into them. You can also see the remains of one of the Mulberries (at least you could 20 years ago - I am aging). And I forgot the sub pens the Germans built in France. I think the used to also have a post WW2 French boat there.



spence -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/29/2018 5:14:10 PM)

If you're in Europe check out Verdun. Kind of hard to get to but worth it.

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Taken from atop Fort Duoamont at Verdun 100 years after the battle.

Grass
By Carl Sandburg
Pile the bodies high at Austerlitz and Waterloo.
Shovel them under and let me work—
I am the grass; I cover all.

And pile them high at Gettysburg
And pile them high at Ypres and Verdun.
Shovel them under and let me work.
Two years, ten years, and passengers ask the conductor:
What place is this?
Where are we now?

I am the grass.
Let me work.



Macclan5 -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/29/2018 8:18:30 PM)

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Once some years ago ~ circa 1996 ~ I was in Charleston South Carolina - oops already late with this...


Patriot Point not Cape Fear (LOL) has the Yorktown, and the Laffey which was a huge attraction to me. Additionally they had a sub but it was closed off at the time and so I could not see it. Again at that time Charleston was home to a Nuc sub command. The harbor cruise took you through the outer Nave Yard and patrol boats would shadow up and down the cruise tour ... you were warned that taking pictures was a Federal Offence ! (However I do not know if that command is still there ? and of course this was many years pre 911 in a simpler time)

To be a homer: The War Museum in Ottawa Ontario Canada is very very good.

If you are coming to Canada and Ottawa is a little too far north ~ in the 'Toronto Area' and actually within an "hour drive" from Buffalo ~ is the Hamilton Warplane Museum nearby and the Korean War Museum of Canada in Brampton. Both are worth a visit.


Question:

The WW2 Museum in New Orleans ~ I believe this is the one which Stephen Ambrose was significantly involved in if not mistaken. I have for many year wanted to see it but heard anecdotally that it was heavily damaged by Katrina some time ago.

Has it been fixed and rejuvenated ?



dave sindel -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/29/2018 8:28:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Macclan5

2 recommendations 1 question:

Once some years ago ~ circa 1996 ~ I was in Charleston South Carolina - oops already late with this...


Patriot Point not Cape Fear (LOL) has the Yorktown, and the Laffey which was a huge attraction to me. Additionally they had a sub but it was closed off at the time and so I could not see it. Again at that time Charleston was home to a Nuc sub command. The harbor cruise took you through the outer Nave Yard and patrol boats would shadow up and down the cruise tour ... you were warned that taking pictures was a Federal Offence ! (However I do not know if that command is still there ? and of course this was many years pre 911 in a simpler time)

To be a homer: The War Museum in Ottawa Ontario Canada is very very good.

If you are coming to Canada and Ottawa is a little too far north ~ in the 'Toronto Area' and actually within an "hour drive" from Buffalo ~ is the Hamilton Warplane Museum nearby and the Korean War Museum of Canada in Brampton. Both are worth a visit.


Question:

The WW2 Museum in New Orleans ~ I believe this is the one which Stephen Ambrose was significantly involved in if not mistaken. I have for many year wanted to see it but heard anecdotally that it was heavily damaged by Katrina some time ago.

Has it been fixed and rejuvenated ?


I was at the WW2 Museum in New Orleans about 5 or 6 years ago. It was fine and well worth the visit.



John 3rd -> RE: Museums worth a stop or specific trip (5/29/2018 8:31:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: btd64

Airforce museum in Dayton, Ohio. Full day easy....GP

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