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Anachro -> July 22 1942 (12/5/2018 3:03:12 PM)

@Canoerebel If I remember (and I could be wrong), stock DBB is like that as well. Below is the 70th as it appears in John's mod.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/B6KvREX.jpg[/image]

July 22 1942

Not a very interesting day so won't write much. It appears John does have a division in the hex south of Ranchi, but I seem to scare him with my units appearing to move towards him from Ranchi and he appears to be moving his units southeast. I think my defenses in this theater are pretty good and recon so far does not show major efforts towards my center. Is John going to push or will he start retrenching and building defenses? A few emails back, John mentioned he was getting frustrated and might try something risky, bold, and aggressive. Perhaps whenever KB remakes its appearance (haven't seen it for a month or more), he'll try landing with divisions directly at Bombay or something.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/R6bbxin.jpg[/image]

In China, my new defensive line is forming. All the terrain south of Chungking is very good.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/MXRlZpY.jpg[/image]

CV Enterprise, Saratoga, and Wasp all join Lexington in port at Pearl Harbor today. They will begin their refits tomorrow.



Anachro -> July 23-25 1942 (12/6/2018 2:19:27 PM)

July 23-25 1942

Not much has happened over the last few turns, so I'll give a brief update on the situation in India and then discuss future plans in the near-medium term elsewhere.

India

In India, there have been no movements around Asanol/Jamshedpur and I can discern no movements heading towards Raipur. Indeed, the only movements I can see are in a southern direction. Moreover, John has one division on the outskirts of Bezwada and one division still sitting at Cocanada with no movement back towards Calcutta. If he planned to make a concerted push back at my main lines of defense, I would think he'd need to move his forces back from the west, but he is not doing so. As of now, I see no need to reinforce the west, but this can easily be done, with my other British divisions set to strat to quickly move if needed. The 18th British Division arrived a Bezwada, along with some base units and AA. The hex now has 859 AV and 3 forts (building towards 4).

If John does move this way and somehow breaks through, I have already been building defenses from early on here. Madras is at 6 forts and 37% of the way to 7 forts with 484 AV (26th Indian Division + 267th Armored Brigade). Warangal has base units and planes at the moment only, but has level 5 forts (the 2nd British division is moving here).

While this is going on, since John seems to have drawn down forces around Calcutta and there is little pressure on me. The 70th British ID, 7th Australian ID, 41st US ID, and potentially 40th US ID, will move at the division east of Asanol (in a jungle hex) or on Asanol itself (clear hex), where John now only has 883 AV and 2 Divisions, and Ind. Artillery Unit.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/paKx2so.jpg[/image]

Elsewhere

I am planning taking Canton, Baker, Vaiutpu, and Funafuti - these are not so much major operations as they are quick events using fast transports (garrisons in these areas are light or non-existent). I just want to deny John deep eyes on my LOC in the SoPac.

At the same time, I will do landings at Sagigk Island, Seguam Island: one is a green dot, one is a very lightly held Japanese island with 1 airbase. Both of these are very close to Adak. The goal here is not to setup future invasions of Adak in the medium term, but to make John think I plan to do this. These landings will happen before landings elsewhere. A tangential benefit is that I could of course do future landings at Adak.

After these, I will do a landing at Ndeni and potentially go for Lunga and hopefully draw John's attention there. Meanwhile, forces are planning for Ceylon in India, where John seems to have very little. Actually, John seems to have very little anywhere except India.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/VPAHQ9W.jpg[/image]

Air Losses for the 25th

[image]https://i.imgur.com/x2EeKE5.jpg[/image]



Anachro -> July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 5:34:55 PM)

July 26 1942

Japan launches a bombing raid on Madras today. Didn't know what the Liz was and finally checked it out. Japan has a heavy bomber. Great. Extended radius of 29. Fighters and AA move to Madras.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/gN39iP9.jpg[/image]

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G5N2 Liz x 39
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 29

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G5N2 Liz: 13 damaged
G5N2 Liz: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 40 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed on ground
PBY-5A Catalina: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G5N2 Liz bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 12 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x G5N2 Liz bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 12 x 250 kg GP Bomb


Other Happenings

quote:

Sub attack near Kochi at 106,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Taijima Maru, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Grunion

xAK Taijima Maru is sighted by SS Grunion
SS Grunion attacking on the surface



Anachro -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 5:56:18 PM)

A comparison...

[image]https://i.imgur.com/TxYEe9g.jpg[/image]



Canoerebel -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 6:00:38 PM)

Too funny.



adarbrauner -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 9:34:27 PM)

No it's a real airplane, not pressed in mass production IRL for a number of reasons, not a fantasy;



Canoerebel -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 9:38:56 PM)

That's one good definition of fantasy.



paullus99 -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 9:42:06 PM)

The hell?

Oh well, that's John for you.



BillBrown -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 9:46:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

No it's a real airplane, not pressed in mass production IRL for a number of reasons, not a fantasy;


All 6 of them( with 4 as transports ) were "real" aircraft.



Canoerebel -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 9:46:23 PM)

Remember the guy (was it 5th Guards Army or Marky or somebody else?) who contended that Emilys armed with torpedoes would've been the death of the Allied navies. It turned into a mania for him. He just couldn't let it go. And, of course, the notion was silly, so sensible people called him on it...which fed his sense of persecution.



JohnDillworth -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 10:44:59 PM)

I believe this was a knock off of a Douglas DC-4. Japan manged to produce about 6 of these and they were relegated to transport duty. Japan did not have the production chops to mass produce reliable 4 EBs They had about the same GDP as Italy. 1st it was the 34 knot CVL's that had bombs simply bounce off the heavily armored flight decks and now mass production of a 4EB that is somewhere between a B-17 and a B-29 in 1942. This is just silly



adarbrauner -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/6/2018 10:59:42 PM)

No it's not silly; it was an underpowered airplane, thus the lower performances in his specs here; and it's not produced for free, it has a cost, of 4 ENG per specimen, it's a lot for Japan;
the long range I guess it's his own real one;

It was later developed in the G6N Rita;
again not mass produced because of the dire industrial and economic conditions in Japan and other priorities, but if you Allied commander do not pursue Japan's economic ruin but other goals, so why not pressing these bombers in service;



GetAssista -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/7/2018 8:31:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner
No it's not silly; it was an underpowered airplane, thus the lower performances in his specs here; and it's not produced for free, it has a cost, of 4 ENG per specimen, it's a lot for Japan;
the long range I guess it's his own real one;

The fantasy part here is armor and bomb load I guess.
The former is funny for the underpowered long range plane built under the Japanese early war doctrine.
The latter was roughly the same as B-17 bombload. Not 50% more



JohnDillworth -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/7/2018 3:32:53 PM)

Anyone know what the monthly production of these bombers is in this mod?



Anachro -> July 27-28 1942 (12/7/2018 5:20:45 PM)

@JohnDillworth Looking at the Scenario, it starts with 8/mo in Tokyo and obviously the Japanese player can increase it from there. Btw, below is the progression of Japan's heavy bomber program.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/7zBQTCj.jpg[/image]

July 27-28 1942

[image]https://i.imgur.com/fXuFehj.jpg[/image]

Not much to report. John did another raid on Madras with middling results, didn't manage to inflict much damage on the Liz planes (most of my planes are still moving to Madras or repairing), but took down 8 of their Oscar escorts with just 5 low-tier British planes. AA and planes are more entrenched for the next few turns.

There has been little movement in India on John's part. Indeed, he seems to be drawing forces down at Asanol. It now has 4 units with potentially only 2 divisions. The division east of Asanol in the jungle hex is moving in to it. A lot of forces have disappeared and probably have railed south to go where I know not. The only possible direction is west towards Bezwada or Raipur. If John makes a major push towards Bezwada, I will send an AFV unit down from Raipur to cut the rail network and make a major push on Calcutta. If he goes for Raipur, I'll move units down from Jamshedpur to also cut the rail. The 41st ID, 7th Aussie ID, and 7th Armored Brigade are hidden two hexes north of Asanol. The 70th British ID is at Patna, as is the 159th Mot. Infantry Regiment. Given the good rail/road network, they can very quickly move down. That's 1350 AV added to the 1300 AV already at Asanol.

By the way, everything to the east of Calcutta is very lightly defended. Opportunities, but I'll want some airfields down there to cover my troops. Rajshahi has 2, Dacca 5.



Anachro -> July 29 1942 (12/7/2018 7:35:27 PM)

July 29 1942

John's email quote to me was "Berry—Berry quiet…" I feel like he's up to something. This turn consisted of my sub sinking a cargo ship outside of Tokyo and some very minor bombing raids on Asanol. Other than that, nothing. However, the big piece of info is that John seems to have offloaded more units at Calcutta. Last turn something like 7-9 Enemy units there. This turn shows 25 units and 739 AFV. Has John brought all the tank regiments in the Japanese army to India? Where are they going, I wonder?

The division outside of Bezwada seems to have pulled back. We will recon the adjacent hex.

Ranchi reaches level 4 forts today. Asanol is 90% of the way to level 5 forts. Jamshedpur is 60% to level 5 forts. Raipur is 70% to level 4 forts. Bezwada has 900 AV and is 20% to level 4 forts.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/dwMo7SC.jpg[/image]




JohnDillworth -> RE: July 27-28 1942 (12/7/2018 8:03:53 PM)


quote:

Looking at the Scenario, it starts with 8/mo in Tokyo and obviously the Japanese player can increase it from there. Btw, below is the progression of Japan's heavy bomber program.


I think this is an "all the toys" fantasy scenario. I guess by the time he can build the Rita there will be little use for it. Bit of a gunship that one.One wonders what other surprises are coming up?



HansBolter -> RE: July 27-28 1942 (12/7/2018 8:19:09 PM)

Ritas appear in AndyMac's Ironman scenarios and I have nicknamed them PITA's.


They are bears that routinely shoot down first line day and night fighters and almost always get through.



Anachro -> RE: July 27-28 1942 (12/7/2018 8:48:44 PM)

It really is a beast; I mean look at that thing. Not too shabby compared to the B-29 and even has a lower SR!

[image]https://i.imgur.com/tehwfER.jpg[/image]



Anachro -> RE: July 27-28 1942 (12/7/2018 8:49:48 PM)

And there's an upgrade to the Rita with armor of 2.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/uGCXJZ4.jpg[/image]



JeffroK -> RE: July 27-28 1942 (12/8/2018 1:37:41 AM)

Its only the fault of players who take on JIII's wet dream scenarios.



Bearcat2 -> RE: July 26 1942 (12/8/2018 11:54:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

No it's not silly; it was an underpowered airplane, thus the lower performances in his specs here; and it's not produced for free, it has a cost, of 4 ENG per specimen, it's a lot for Japan;
the long range I guess it's his own real one;

It was later developed in the G6N Rita;
again not mass produced because of the dire industrial and economic conditions in Japan and other priorities, but if you Allied commander do not pursue Japan's economic ruin but other goals, so why not pressing these bombers in service;




It was not produced because it was a failed design. The biggest problem they faced was the original engines[Ha-36 1850HP] were junk. The plane never came close to design specifications which is what this scenario is using. They replaced the Ha-36 with a Ha-32[1500HP] which had even less power.
The fantasy part is not that the plane did not exist, but that it's performance never came remotely close to meeting it's design specifications.



Anachro -> RE: July 27-28 1942 (12/8/2018 1:45:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffroK

Its only the fault of players who take on JIII's wet dream scenarios.


Right you are! I knew what I was getting into when I signed up for this mod. It's a fun challenge, but I dread to think what it will be like facing these PITA's in 1944/45. Should be interesting...



Anachro -> July 30-31 1942 (12/8/2018 4:39:51 PM)

July 30-31 1942

Not much to report. John is launching air raids on my small forces still in south-eastern India to clean it up I suppose. My three divisions and tanks are gathering for a push south towards Calcutta or its southeastern flanks. One potential option is to ignore Calcutta and take the areas south-east of it. John has been building airfields here and they are lightly defended. Rajnashi has level 3 airfields. Dacca level 5. Take these and I can get air cover to help my LCUs if they move down there. Another option is to overwhelm the 3 divisions at Asanol and push down from there.

The 70th British division is moving down from Patna after recovering disablements almost fully (has ~450 AV). The 7th Aussie Division is moving to Patna to recover ~60 squad disablements. More tanks are moving here for the push from the west. All counted, I theoretically have ~3-4k AV I can use for the push if all my forces at Asanol, Patna, Ranchi, and Jamshedpur were to be used. About half will stay behind for defense.

While this is going on cut the rail from Viza where I anticipate John gathering forces. 2 hexes outside of Bezwada, John seems to be gathering forces, showing 3 units which I suspect contains at least 1 or 2 divisions. The units (and tanks) at Calcutta seem to be moving out.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/GSBqBao.jpg[/image]

Meanwhile, Japanese carriers have been spotted north of Soerabaja and they appear to be moving south... to Australia? To the South Pacific?

[image]https://i.imgur.com/SR4K9gk.jpg[/image]



Anachro -> RE: July 30-31 1942 (12/8/2018 4:42:04 PM)

John is reinforcing Guadalcanal and I estimate it will have 2 divisions on it once this new one arrives according to Sigint.

quote:

SIG INT REPORT FOR Jul 31, 42

2/2nd Army is loaded on a Kasu-D Cargo class xAK moving to Lunga.
Radio transmissions detected at 106,129.
Babeldoap Naval Fortress is located at Babeldaob(90,97).
9th Manchukuo Inf Brigade is located at Jehol(97,39).
Radio transmissions detected at Bataan (78,77).
171st Cavalry Regiment is located at Changchun(106,41).
46th JAAF AF Bn is located at Jehol(97,39).
Radio transmissions detected at Bihoro (123,51).
Radio transmissions detected at Jaluit (134,120).
Cam Ranh Fortress is located at Cam Ranh Bay(64,72).
RTA Cavalry Division is located at Bangkok(56,62).
6th RTA Division is located at Nakhon Si Thammarat(51,70).
23rd Air Flotilla is located at Lae(99,126).
51st Air Defense AA Battalion is located at Taichu(86,64).
1st Ind.Inf.Group is located at Kweilin(76,54).
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment is located at Kienko(78,41).
9th Garrison Unit is located at Suchow(91,47).
41st Guard Battalion is located at Saigon(60,71).
Ichiki Det. is located at Ulak Island(160,53).
Radio transmissions detected at Cagayan (79,89).
Radio transmissions detected at Moulmein (55,55).
Southeast Area Fleet is located at Rabaul(106,125).
93rd Base Force is located at Port Blair(46,58).
45th Ind.AA Gun Co is located at Rashin(110,46).
Southern Fleet is located at Cam Ranh Bay(64,72).
16433 men are based at Truk (112,108).
Radio transmissions detected at Tabiteuea (137,134).
9th Division is loaded on xAP Suwa Maru moving to Lunga.
23rd Air Flotilla is located at Lae(99,126).
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment is located at Heijo(103,47).
Eastern Army is located at Tokyo(114,60).



Anachro -> Aug 1 1942 (12/8/2018 8:40:51 PM)

Aug 1 1942

Nothing much, but Japanese activity is heating up in the South Pacific. A roving Japanese SCTF (CL/DD) moves deep into my SoPAC LOC and hits a small transport convoy I had carrying the Fiji Bn. Drat! Not much lost and a shame because I have a decent amount of nav search covering this sector. We'll see if two can play this game. Given that Lunga is being reinforced I've moved up undetected DDs to Luganville. I need to quickly take Canton and Baker Island so I can have a better nav seatch setup towards the Gilbers and Marshalls.

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Manihiki at 163,156, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kagero
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Sawakaze
DD Yakaze
CL Ayase

Allied Ships
xAKL Loyaute, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Mawata, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAKL Capitaine Illiaquer, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
xAKL Nicarata, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Tamara, Shell hits 2
xAKL Georgian, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Iowan, Shell hits 3
xAKL Atlantic, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
355 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Improved night sighting under 78% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 78% moonlight: 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 12,000 yards
Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 12,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence
Range closes to 10,000 yards
DD Oyashio engages xAKL Atlantic at 10,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Iowan at 10,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Georgian at 10,000 yards
CL Ayase engages xAKL Nicarata at 10,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Mawata at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Capitaine Illiaquer at 7,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Atlantic at 7,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages xAKL Atlantic at 7,000 yards
DD Kagero engages xAKL Georgian at 7,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Mawata at 7,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Loyaute at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CL Ayase engages xAKL Atlantic at 5,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Nicarata at 5,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Georgian at 5,000 yards
DD Oyashio engages xAKL Georgian at 5,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Capitaine Illiaquer at 5,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Mawata at 5,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Loyaute at 5,000 yards
CL Ayase engages xAKL Loyaute at 5,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Iowan at 5,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Georgian at 5,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Tamara at 5,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages xAKL Nicarata at 5,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Capitaine Illiaquer at 5,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Mawata at 5,000 yards
DD Oyashio engages xAKL Loyaute at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages xAKL Atlantic at 7,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Mawata at 7,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Georgian at 7,000 yards
DD Oyashio engages xAKL Tamara at 7,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Nicarata at 7,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Capitaine Illiaquer at 7,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages xAKL Loyaute at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Ayase engages xAKL Nicarata at 9,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages xAKL Iowan at 9,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...


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ASW attack near Carnarvon at 48,133

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuzuki

Allied Ships
SS Devil Ray

SS Devil Ray is sighted by escort
Devil Ray bottoming out ....
DD Hatsuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Carnarvon at 49,133, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kinu
CL Kiso
DD Akizuki
DD Teruzuki
DD Susuzuki
DD Hatsuzuki

Allied Ships
xAKL Kaiping, Shell hits 14, and is sunk



Anachro -> RE: Aug 1 1942 (12/8/2018 8:44:41 PM)

I should note I have two CL/DD TF's south west of Pago Pago. Maybe they can catch something.



GetAssista -> RE: July 30-31 1942 (12/8/2018 10:30:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Anachro
Meanwhile, Japanese carriers have been spotted north of Soerabaja and they appear to be moving south... to Australia? To the South Pacific?

That looks deep in the Japanese territory now. I wonder who did the spotting?



Anachro -> RE: July 30-31 1942 (12/8/2018 10:38:13 PM)

I don't know how it was spotted as I have nothing up there that I can think of. I randomly saw it as I was scrolling from India to the SoPac on my map.



Anachro -> August 2 1942 (12/9/2018 12:04:22 AM)

August 2 1942

South Pacific

The raiders from last turn make an appearance thanks to redirecting my nav search this turn and, as expected, move towards Pago Pago as last turn Japanese recon had spotted another unescorted convoy carrying troops near there. I, of course, moved that convoy in the opposite direction while moving my cruiser SCTF's towards Pago Pago and now there appears to be an opportunity to intercept at least some of John's surface ships (he may have split his forces to go after various transports). We will try to intercept him during the night or tomorrow in the day phase.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/T8MqFex.png[/image]

Australia

Again John's carriers make an appearance in an area where I have no recon. I don't quite know why. The only thing I can think is there are two green dots near Soerabaja that have been recon'd by Japanese fighter plans, perhaps from John's carriers. Nonetheless, the info shows his carriers moving south, either to Darwin or towards the South Pacific. That's good info to have for informing my own operations in these areas. Nonetheless, they haven't arrived yet and I still have time before they do.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/md69VV6.png[/image]

India

In India, more leaves point to a push towards Bezwada or Warangal. John originally had 3 units 2 hexes east of Bezwada and now only has 1 unit. Furthermore, more units are moving west from Cocanada. I suspect John has moved troops along the smaller road north of his western-most units. He might be trying to cut off the rail between Bezwada and Warangal. This won't help him much because there are more rails through which I can move troops to the west and both Warangal and Bezwada have pretty good defenses (Bezwada is 40% to level 4 forts, Warangal has level 5 forts.

Now that I think about it, John's probably trying to avoid the river crossing/shock attack of moving directly towards Bezwada.

Asanol just went to level 5 forts today, as well. I think eastern India is prime for a push. Once my Aussie division has recovered a bit, we'll see what we can do.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/7kcID7a.png[/image]



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