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modrow -> RE: Jan 19-20, 1942 (7/24/2018 4:43:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: Anachro Jan 19-20 1942 The last two days I send some DD raiders to get some undefended cargo units spotted south of Kwajalein where they manage to hit one in the night and cause some minor damage. They will try to hit some more as they head home. John is also recon'ing Baker Island, either to see if I have stuff there or maybe to eventually take it so he can do deep patrols into my SoPac trade routes. quote: ight Time Surface Combat, near Ocean Island at 132,126, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships xAKL Shonan Maru #8 xAKL Toyotsu Maru, Shell hits 2 xAK Nitiyo Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Penang Maru, Shell hits 4 xAK Uji Maru, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Worden DD MacDonough In the DEI, I send the Dutch bombers to bomb Singapore from Singkawang. Hopefully, they actually manage to fly and find an undefended port. We'll see. Looks like you're causing some problems. [;)] All of these little actions add up, and it slows him down. He won't like to cover every transport or invasion. He wants to use the IJN to hunt. So keep making him pay and take what he gives. +1, good job and probably the most effective way of slowing him down. Also, don't forget the experience gain (which is what you need to make surface battles more balanced). Curious to see (no need for you to tell now) whether you will pounce with your carriers (I wouldn't) and if so the results. In the result from your other game you posted previously you got very good strike coordination/coherence, much better than what I typically get. But that may well be my fault. Hartwig

Anachro -> Jan 23-24, 1942 (7/24/2018 1:12:50 PM)
@Obvert I'm trying, but I've been a little lacking in my defense of the DEI more than I should've been. Both miscalculations on my part and laziness. Hopefully, it doesn't hurt me when he tries to invade India. @modrow I will definitely try a pounce if the opportunity arises, but it would require him to make his carriers exposed in a bad position that provides opportunity for simultaneous surface intercept and/or my carriers operating under LBA cover + very good DL on his carriers. I believe the reason why the strike coordination on my previous one was so good was because I had the area saturated by patrol search aircraft and had multiple days of 10/10 DL on my opponent's KB unit. Jan 23-24, 1942 Singkawang falls and troops land south of Soerabaja. I would imagine John should be able to rap up a lot of conquest by the end of the next 1.5 months in the DEI, 2 months if I'm being optimistic. This does not give me much time to reinforce India. Troops going to Capetown from the East Coast by Strategic Movement seem to take 45 days to arrive. Is it possible to do this with faster with speedy transports? Maybe. CV Yorktown only takes 24 days to get to Capetown going the same distance. quote: 1/3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment is loaded on a Akasi Cargo class xAK moving to Port Blair. One potentially interesting event going forward are that I have an ambush setup to hit John's invasion TF heading for Port Blair if things appear favorable and he does not have it well-escorted. No nav search has spotted the ambush TFs and John appears to only be recon'ing Port Blair itself, showing a 9/10 DL. I have Hermes set to try and hit with Torps while I have 2 CL/DD fleets also ready to pounce. I'd imagine he should escort with his nearby surface forces and potentially carriers. If he does so, I'll probably retreat. But if its only a weak cruiser force or none at all (!!!), I will try and cause some damage. I am a bit intrigued that he would be sending Mountain guns to Port Blair; this could very well be deception and those boats are actually going somewhere else, like India. [image]https://i.imgur.com/nL3RGIu.jpg[/image] In SoPac, his fragment carrier force seems to have joined up with his sister unit and seems to be heading east towards my trade routes and Hawaii. I'm not quite sure where to yet, but it should be well-watched by the patrol craft I've set up. Needless to say, I don't think i'd try to take on this force when its combined unless the circumstances were very, very favorable. Let's hope John divides them at some point in the future. [image]https://i.imgur.com/O76TbX5.png[/image]

Anachro -> RE: Jan 23-24, 1942 (7/24/2018 2:32:37 PM)
Current Strategic Map [image]https://i.imgur.com/Bv8CtOq.jpg[/image]

Alfred -> RE: Jan 15-17, 1942 (7/24/2018 4:50:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Imperial Guards is one of his strongest divisions. It doesn't seem likely he would waste the prep time on a unit he needs to put to work, so I think that is good SIGINT. Au contraire mon frère. That is not the complete Imperial Guards division. Unless there is signit that the division is embarked, it would be easy to give a small terrestrial fragment a false target. Besides the location is not a particularly good choice for an Indian landing. Alfred

Alfred -> RE: Jan 12, 1942 (7/24/2018 5:03:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GetAssista quote: ORIGINAL: Mahrgell Two phases? I think you should have went with LoBaron's bottomline instead of making up your own. quote: The above is the main reason why DP high caliber guns expend more ammo. They a) usually fire in three phases instead of one, and b) also fire against a/c attacking other ships in a TF. See the difference? So how again are the AAA contributing to fleet air defense, except in the case of someone sending his Nells in at 6k for I don't know what reasons? Methinks you pull wrong conclusion out of the LoBaron's "usually". Anyway, I've tested it just now to clear the misconception. On a naked map with 3 Vals coming in on 10k attacking a TF of Lexington stripped of his planes + 6 Omahas. No other planes except 41k flying navsearch to have DL on the US TF. Bottomline: all of Omahas fired their 6000 ceiling Bofors, and even some of their 4000 ceiling 20mm. Which should not've been possible if AAA fire only on planes atacking the ship - there are 3 planes and 7 ships. Case closed There is an important point which has been overlooked. 1. On approach to the enemy TF, all enemy TF ship flak which can reach the raid's altitude will fire. This is subject to the quality of the CAP positioning. 2. On the attack run which is against a specific ship, only the target ship's flak will fire if it has the altitude and is facing the attacking aircraft. Thus if torpedo bombers are approaching from starboard, only the starboard flak can fire; the port flak cannot fire. 3. After delivery of the ordnance, the egressing raid can run the same flak gauntlet it faced on approach. Alfred

Anachro -> Jan 25, 1942 (7/24/2018 5:28:22 PM)
@Alfred Now, you are making me worried. My only chance of defeating an Indian invasion is defeating it early and near the location of the landings. It will be a few months before American reinforcements arrive and the changes made in the mod to garrison requirements for Indian cities make it hard to use a lot of the troops that are already there freely. Jan 25, 1942 A cruiser force seems to be roving around Port Blair and made a run into Rangoon last night with a destroyer taking a mine. I surmise this to be one of his "heavy" CL/DD fleets. That is, one with a Furutaka-class cruiser or some other variant. It somehow ended up north of Rangoon in an exposed position that provides opportunity, but his invasion fleet seems to also have appeared south of Port Blair. Times of decision. This force could be heading for Rangoon or Port Blair or somewhere else. Not too sure yet, but recent sigint points to PB. [image]https://i.imgur.com/25H2mR3.png[/image] In the South Pacific, he seems to making a push east of south east from the Marshalls towards either Johnston Island or perhaps towards Canton, Palmyra, etc. Canton and Baker Island have been under surveillance, so these might be his target. I'm relatively powerless to stop it, but my carriers are close by around Pago Pago and perhaps I can tread the line and somehow hit his transports while staying out of range of the carriers or hit stragglers. [image]https://i.imgur.com/ZjNCfoA.png[/image]

Anachro -> RE: Jan 25, 1942 (7/24/2018 5:55:34 PM)
I forgot to mention that the last turn was a good turn in the air for the Allies, mainly because of China. Those Flying Tigers are starting to rack up some nice kills from the unescorted or poorly escorted Japanese bombers there. [image]https://i.imgur.com/nJuQQ1H.jpg[/image] [image]https://i.imgur.com/EXrrXVv.jpg[/image]

modrow -> RE: Jan 25, 1942 (7/24/2018 6:34:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Anachro @Alfred Now, you are making me worried. My only chance of defeating an Indian invasion is defeating it early and near the location of the landings. It will be a few months before American reinforcements arrive and the changes made in the mod to garrison requirements for Indian cities make it hard to use a lot of the troops that are already there freely. You may call me a defeatist, but I do not think you can defeat it on the beach unless this mod improves your OOB or TOE significantly. You need time until you can prevail in India. Trade space for time, do a fighting retreat, do not get flanked, make him march all the way. Do not get confused by AV numbers, look at anti soft and anti hard values of you troops (I.S.F militia has 5/12 in stock, Ind Inf. 5/14, i.e. they correspond to Chinese and Chinese '43 squads, respectively, and in stock their morale and experience are just as bad if not worse than the ones of the Chinese and like the Chinese they start with significant disablements, meaning the units break quickly and lose devices quickly). Imagine you are fighting in China, just without the numbers of the Chinese. Do not try to use the "tank units" before they have tanks, your improvised AFVs have 1/5 anti hard/anti soft and are not effective for me. I look at both squads and "tanks" are placeholders to allow for a quick upgrade of units. If you get them shredded, that chance is gone, and teh rebuilding of the Indina army will take a long time given the available replacements. As always, just my view. Hartwig

obvert -> RE: Jan 25, 1942 (7/24/2018 7:07:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: modrow quote: ORIGINAL: Anachro @Alfred Now, you are making me worried. My only chance of defeating an Indian invasion is defeating it early and near the location of the landings. It will be a few months before American reinforcements arrive and the changes made in the mod to garrison requirements for Indian cities make it hard to use a lot of the troops that are already there freely. You may call me a defeatist, but I do not think you can defeat it on the beach unless this mod improves your OOB or TOE significantly. You need time until you can prevail in India. Trade space for time, do a fighting retreat, do not get flanked, make him march all the way. Do not get confused by AV numbers, look at anti soft and anti hard values of you troops (I.S.F militia has 5/12 in stock, Ind Inf. 5/14, i.e. they correspond to Chinese and Chinese '43 squads, respectively, and in stock their morale and experience are just as bad if not worse than the ones of the Chinese and like the Chinese they start with significant disablements, meaning the units break quickly and lose devices quickly). Imagine you are fighting in China, just without the numbers of the Chinese. Do not try to use the "tank units" before they have tanks, your improvised AFVs have 1/5 anti hard/anti soft and are not effective for me. I look at both squads and "tanks" are placeholders to allow for a quick upgrade of units. If you get them shredded, that chance is gone, and teh rebuilding of the Indina army will take a long time given the available replacements. As always, just my view. Hartwig If he lands in India give a LOT of space. Just pull everything you can back to Bombay and Karachi. Those are the bases you need to survive. You will not, and I mean absolutely will not, save Calcutta. Or Madras. Or Ledo.

GetAssista -> RE: Jan 25, 1942 (7/24/2018 8:00:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert If he lands in India give a LOT of space. Just pull everything you can back to Bombay and Karachi. Those are the bases you need to survive. You will not, and I mean absolutely will not, save Calcutta. Or Madras. Or Ledo. Just try not to pull out too soon and make him waste time. It is a lot of fun for the Japanese player to capture empty bases with paratroopers and rail in vanguard divisions right the next turn.

Anachro -> Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 4:41:27 PM)
Jan 26-27, 1942 Don't have much time to report, but I'll give a brief rundown of what happened the last turn. I elected to keep my cruisers and the Hermes in reserve to strike his force approaching Port Blair. Port Blair will still probably fall next turn given that he landed ~400 AV, but it seems I created a nasty little surprise for my opponent. For the price of 2 British light cruisers and a destroyer, I sank a battleship, a number of transports, a couple destroyers, and potentially seriously damaged another. A fun day, that might make him bring out the big guns for any future invasion into India. Cruisers have a series of engagements with his PB invasion fleet during the night and during the day before Hermes strikes later with her air complement. I'm happy with the engagement and will seek to my extract myself during the night. I might try to continue to his transports with some undamaged cruisers in the night before retiring. [image]https://i.imgur.com/tuPUqbh.jpg[/image] quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Blair at 46,58, Range 1,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Walrus II: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Ise, Shell hits 1 BB Hyuga, Shell hits 23, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Natsugumo DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 2 DD Minegumo, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Asagumo, Shell hits 1 xAK Kamogawa Maru xAK Yamahagi Maru xAK Tonan Maru xAK Mikage Maru xAK Manko Maru xAK Senko Maru AMC Saigon Maru, Shell hits 1 xAK Ikushima Maru xAK Kasuga Maru #2, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hiyoshi Maru xAK Kozan Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires xAK Hankow Maru xAK Yamagata Maru xAK Amagi Maru xAK Rokko Maru xAK Maebasi Maru xAK Mito Maru xAK Teihoku Maru xAK Tarayasu Maru xAK Asuka Maru xAK Atago Maru, Shell hits 1 xAK Meiyo Maru xAK Hakonesan Maru xAK Hakubasan Maru xAK Hakakisan Maru xAK Ikuta Maru xAK Okuyo Maru xAK Seikai Maru xAK Santos Maru xAK Taiko Maru xAK Yomei Maru Allied Ships CL Achilles, Shell hits 2, heavy fires CL Glasgow, Shell hits 20, and is sunk CL Colombo, Shell hits 7 CL Caledon DD Encounter, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Isis, Shell hits 1 DD Javelin Japanese ground losses: 795 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 34 disabled Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 35 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled)[/quote quote: Day Time Surface Combat, near Port Blair at 46,58, Range 7,000 Yards Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E8N2 Dave: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Walrus II: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Ise, Shell hits 17, on fire BB Hyuga, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Natsugumo DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Minegumo, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Asagumo, Shell hits 23, and is sunk xAK Kamogawa Maru xAK Yamahagi Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Tonan Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk xAK Mikage Maru, Shell hits 1 xAK Manko Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire xAK Senko Maru AMC Saigon Maru xAK Ikushima Maru xAK Hiyoshi Maru xAK Hankow Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yamagata Maru xAK Amagi Maru xAK Rokko Maru xAK Maebasi Maru, Shell hits 15, and is sunk xAK Mito Maru xAK Teihoku Maru xAK Tarayasu Maru, Shell hits 3, and is sunk xAK Asuka Maru xAK Atago Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires xAK Meiyo Maru xAK Hakonesan Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Hakubasan Maru xAK Hakakisan Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ikuta Maru xAK Okuyo Maru xAK Seikai Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk xAK Santos Maru xAK Taiko Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yomei Maru Allied Ships CL Hobart, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Enterprise, Shell hits 2 CL Emerald, Shell hits 7, and is sunk CL Capetown, Shell hits 3 DD Jervis, Shell hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 211 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled quote: Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft Swordfish I x 9 No Allied losses Japanese Ships BB Ise, Torpedo hits 1, on fire xAK Yamagata Maru quote: Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Allied aircraft Swordfish I x 15 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Okuyo Maru xAK Atago Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage AMC Saigon Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Teihoku Maru Ships Sunk for Day (Est.) [image]https://i.imgur.com/jvOqQBh.jpg[/image] Current Situation [image]https://i.imgur.com/LnW7h9b.png[/image]

jwolf -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 5:09:18 PM)
Wow! Kudos to your TF commander and their brave crews! I suppose the bigshot admiral giving all the orders should get a few nice words too. [:)]

Lecivius -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 5:24:46 PM)
BANZAI! I know, I know, but something like this deserves more than an 'Atta boy!" [:D]

BillBrown -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 5:27:31 PM)
Hip, hip, hooray!!!!!! Hip, hip, hooray!!!!!! Hip, hip, hooray!!!!!!

modrow -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 6:23:46 PM)
Congrats, another nice surface battle. I think John LOVES his (combat) ships. He will hate losing that BB. You may be getting under his skin. Hartwig

Lecivius -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 7:15:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: modrow He will hate losing that BB. You may be getting under his skin. Hartwig Ya think? I'm 65 miles away, and I can see the hair fly from here [sm=00000289.gif]

obvert -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 7:28:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: modrow Congrats, another nice surface battle. I think John LOVES his (combat) ships. He will hate losing that BB. You may be getting under his skin. Hartwig He doesn't love em that much to set a TF up like that!! Big, unwieldy, BBs embedded and no surface cover force? Huh? [X(][:-] I think attention to detail is going to do well for you this game, and you may have bought a lot of time with this one!

jwolf -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 7:35:18 PM)
I'm a little surprised the Japanese didn't use at least a CVE/CVL type of group for air cover with this op. In this mod it seems like they have plenty of carriers to go around. It would be ironic if the deep raid toward the US came at the expense of safeguarding the Port Blair op.

GetAssista -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 7:49:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jwolf I'm a little surprised the Japanese didn't use at least a CVE/CVL type of group for air cover with this op. In this mod it seems like they have plenty of carriers to go around. It would be ironic if the deep raid toward the US came at the expense of safeguarding the Port Blair op. I'm more surprised Japan did not use adequate covering SCTFs. Placing BBs inside amphibious TF for a landing against no opposing arty or CDs, why? Combat ships always underperform in surface battles when in transport groups. Great naval victory! That will surely leave a mark on John's psyche for this game [:)]

Anachro -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/25/2018 11:29:35 PM)
SoPac For the next turn, the transports lagging behind the Japanese carrier task forces in the SoPac (shown in previous images above) have turned south towards Baker Island. The carrier TF's continued east towards Johnston Island. I suspect this might be a trap and the Japanese carriers will turn south to cover the transports heading towards Baker Island. Nonetheless, I have small cruiser task forces in position to intercept these transports and they will try to do so at flank speed next turn before moving away to the southwest to avoid the Japanese carriers if they turn south. The 3 USN CV / 1 British CV force is gathering at Pago Pago. India I, too, was surprised by the lack of at least a surface escort TF. Keep in mind, there was a cruiser fleet roving around earlier. Maybe this was the escort fleet and it got sidetracked chasing some stray cargo ships. A DD ran into a mine at Rangoon 2 turns ago. I regret sending the British BBs to Australia because they would have ensured a bloodbath. Oh, and it appears one more British CL will probably burn up in the night, something I didn't notice this morning. A shame. THey did well. I had hoped my first CL fleet would do a day intercept, and had lengthened their route to ensure so, but it seems I miscalculated. I will attempt to hit the fleet once more in the night before fleeting back to Ceylon. Maybe I can get a lucky torpedo against the Ise. I worry that he has an undetected carrier or cruiser TF that will hit my fleeing forces on their way back.

CaptBeefheart -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/26/2018 9:19:44 AM)
Well played in the Andamans. That'll force him to be more careful next time. Cheers, CC

Bif1961 -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/26/2018 2:01:37 PM)
I wonder how many collisions there were trying to get out of the way of the marauding Royal Navy cruiser force.

Anachro -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/26/2018 7:40:54 PM)
Don't have the next turn yet, but I thought I'd drop a further note as I was a little lucky last term. First, Hermes did suffer an air attack from LBA but didn't suffer much thankfully and was a little lucky. Secondly, John sent me a note a few hours ago describing the situation: quote: I set a damned trap with Port Blair because I KNEW you would fight. Didn’t work due to my TF deciding to refuel before moving in to provide a serious escort. We’ll see what happen this turn. Got a real shot at Hermes and had TWO DUDS! You are lucky Mister… Given the cadence of the game, I believe him. My Indian naval search is porous at the moment until I can get more land-based patrol craft brought in. British Catalina's should have just arrived in Bombay; American PBY's are transiting to Capetown. There was already a roving cruiser force and there could very well be more. quote: Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Little Andaman at 42,56 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 14 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 8 damaged Allied Ships CVL Hermes There were a few torpedo duds in this attack John is supposedly running the turn now (or at least was doing so an hour ago). I'm currently on a flight back to Los Angeles and JetBlue for some reason has free WiFi. I'm not complaining. Very interested to see if he murders my British CLs as they flee, the Hermes, and what will happen to his transports in the South Pacific that my cruisers are trying to get. His carriers could turn south down there this turn and potentially attack. Next turn could be very bloody for me. Or not.

Lecivius -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/26/2018 8:08:32 PM)
Even if he blows everything out of the water, it's still a big win. He is hurt, plus the sting will make him more cautious.

Bif1961 -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/27/2018 12:15:40 AM)
Admiral Fletcher-san must have been in charge of his ambushing TF.

DOCUP -> RE: Jan 26-27, 1942 (7/27/2018 6:14:20 PM)
Great ambush.

Anachro -> Jan 28-29, 1942 (7/27/2018 11:34:30 PM)
Jan 28-29, 1942 My remaining forces seem to have safely extracted themselves from the action around Port Blair. Not back in port yet, and there is always the chance an unspotted roving cruiser force can get them, but they should at least be out of LBA range. Unfortunately, this little girl is gonna be left behind and scuttled, her brave crew unable to stop the hungry fires. Nonetheless, a successful little OP. I'd imagine he will secure Burma and then move on to India. Once he gets Port Blair setup (currently moving an Air Division unit there), he can saturate much of the sea lanes towards India with naval search and partial air cover. [image]https://i.imgur.com/44E3qAW.jpg[/image] The real news is happening currently in the South Pacific. A partial landing force of his Sasebo Marine division (~150AV) lands and takes Baker Island. Luckily, my AV and PBY's were moved to the nearby atoll as I suspected he would do this. The more interesting thing is another invasion force seems to be trailing his carriers and could potentially be moving towards Palmyra. I have been unable to reinforce due to worries over his roving carriers and subs and two marine regiments are still on ships about 5 days from reaching the island. Reinforcements won't make it in time if he decides to land. If he takes Palmyra, I'll probably go ahead and setup routes to Australia through Capetown and Port Stanley in the mean time. Palmyra currently has ~2.5 forts and ~40AV. Unfortunately for me, I had just offloaded a few base units, etc. a few turns ago to help build her up before moving on to other islands in SoPac. Their loss isn't so bad and can quickly be rebuilt, but it's a shame to lose them like this if he lands. Also frustrating is my roving cruisers should have intercepted at least one of these invasion forces a turn ago but somehow missed them. That said, there is potentially to catch parts of his various invasion fleets seeing as they are so far south and his carriers can't cover everything. My 3.5 carriers are about to linkup at Pago Pago and I should have ~120 fighters and ~170 bombers. They can't take on his carriers unless he divides them, but perhaps they can hit something else. I'd imagine the force moving towards Palmyra is the other half of his marine division and should be ~150 AV. I would love for him to reload his troops and given me an opportunity to sink one of his invasion fleets if they are unprotected or try for an easy movement towards another island. I don't think he is aware that my carriers are down here. Only one missing unfortunately is Yorktown, which is heading towards Capetown. [image]https://i.imgur.com/uA4f0OW.png[/image]

obvert -> RE: Jan 28-29, 1942 (7/27/2018 11:58:20 PM)
Against John I'd just not bother reinforcing or doing anything in the Central Pacific in early 42. Let him run around taking things that will extend his LOC and cost him fuel and supplies. Use off map and stay out of the normal shipping lanes, but do get fighters to OZ ASAP if you can.

Anachro -> RE: Jan 28-29, 1942 (7/28/2018 1:25:03 AM)
Yup, plan to do a lot more off-map stuff than I've done in previous games. East Coast doesn't seem to accumulate as much oil/supplies as it has done in my other games, at least initially. Australia has some fighters already; both ones that spawn there and from fighter wings I evacuated out of the Philippines. What I really need is more patrol craft everywhere.

BBfanboy -> RE: Jan 28-29, 1942 (7/28/2018 7:00:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Anachro Yup, plan to do a lot more off-map stuff than I've done in previous games. East Coast doesn't seem to accumulate as much oil/supplies as it has done in my other games, at least initially. Australia has some fighters already; both ones that spawn there and from fighter wings I evacuated out of the Philippines. What I really need is more patrol craft everywhere. IIRC, in John's mod the US economy takes months to spool up as opposed to a week or two in stock. The EC will draw more supply/fuel when you start to pull from there, but will take several days to get there on the rails. Sending an HQ there will also help the draw. If you need to build up Pt. Stanley, don't forget you can put a unit in Strat mode at any off-map base and send it there without any fuss. When I have Cristobal and Balboa fully built, I Strat-transfer their BFs to EC USA and then on-map to help with base building and air support in the USA.

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