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Shampoocat -> Noob Question about brigades (7/11/2018 2:02:39 PM)

So I was playing the Vistula-Berlin offensive campaign from the Soviet side, to get a feel for them as most of the beginner campaigns(road to) are axis focused.

Now I do have a lot, and I do mean A LOT of random brigade sized units kicking around. Almost exclusively armor and artillery. Question is: What do I do with them? The armor is somewhat use full for encirclements and scouting out the enemy. But the Artillery is just in the way. I have not managed to get anything to merge and am unsure if that is even a thing in this case.

So yeah, can anyone tell me what the point of these units is? Do they actually enter in to battle like support attachments do or do I have to manually make them par of an attack?

Thx for any help. :)



MarauderPL -> RE: Noob Question about brigades (7/11/2018 2:49:56 PM)

The artillery is capable of joining an deliberate attacks from 2 hexes away. Place them behind your attacking units and hover mouse over them while pressing shift, like you would usually do while selecting units to attack from multiple hexes.
The brigades you could put on reserve status (click on the place that usually says "ready" on the unit). While in reserve (a couple of hexes behind the front), they can spontaneously join both offensive and defensive fights, if only lady luck is on your side. Having good leaders increases the chance of it happening.



Shampoocat -> RE: Noob Question about brigades (7/11/2018 3:35:36 PM)

Thanks, that helps a lot.



GabrielBora -> RE: Noob Question about brigades (7/12/2018 12:42:11 PM)

MOST ON MAP ARTY bde IS USELESS REGARDLESS OF THE ABILITY TO FIRE FROM 2 HEXES AWAY

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[197] 41c Corps Artillery Regiment -> [430] 41 Artillery Regiment RVGK
Artillery Support Regiment, 41/06 - 41/08
Build cost: 3906 armaments + 0 supplies (~781 supplies)
Needs Sup Fuel Ammo Veh
Motorized 24 43 227 446
+Non-Motorized 24 9 227 92
Support: 105/124 (84.68%)

24 122mm Field Gun (Heavy Artillery)
24 152mm Gun-Howitzer (Heavy Artillery)
105 Support

2556 men, 48 guns, 0 AFV, CV 1.05 (0.24 @ 50)

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1941 support Regiments are in fact more effective than 1944 combat Brigades .

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[211] 44 Army Gun Artillery Brigade
Artillery Combat Brigade, 44/06 - 45/09
Build cost: 2876 armaments + 0 supplies (~575 supplies)
Needs Sup Fuel Ammo Veh
Motorized 11 26 175 287
+Non-Motorized 11 7 175 68
Support: 40/93 (43.01%)

24 152mm Gun-Howitzer (Heavy Artillery)
12 122mm Field Gun (Heavy Artillery)
40 Support

1136 men, 36 guns, 0 AFV, CV 0.40 (0.13 @ 60)

My suggestion for future game updates,is to move them to hq support class and keep only division size arty on map.

In 1944 soviet orbat goes from 22 arty bde to 70 arty bde , while the number of separate reg drops from 228 to 126.
To simulate a historical orbat perhaps some corps arty regiments could upgrade to brigades .
(the only alternative now, is to disband existing trained regiments and build new brigades with low experience )




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