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forestrouse -> RE: Siberians (6/20/2020 9:12:35 PM)
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Every single PBEM game I have had as Allies, the Siberians do not arrive until April 27th, 1942, and arrive at the end of my turn, and so are not available to actually be moved until late May. By the time you operate them, it is June.
Humm. I partially see the point. The Siberians were fully deployed December 1941 but also the Germans were within 15 km of Moscow too and had taken Rostov (only to be forced to retreat). I think it is a debatable point whether or not the Siberians must be released or not. It is a perfectly reasonable position that the Siberian deployment is a variable as opposed to a certain event. It is equally reasonable to consider that historically they were released starting around October 1941 or so (I read a history where the first Siberian units started showing up in the September-October 1941 time frame). The wiki article quoted in this thread certainly reflects that Soviet uncertainty of what Japan would do in the far east. Sorge's intelligence strongly pointed to Japan not attacking the Soviet Union because they needed to change the strategic calculus with regard to the oil embargo and its effects which led to Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. The point being that the Soviet's could not be absolutely certain that Japan would not attack Manchuria and that transferring the Siberian troops entailed a risk.
If I were to pick a nit, it would be that the Shock troops don't appear to be very 'shocking'. My reading of the accounts of the war were that they had great effect in the Winter 1941 but maybe their role was overstated in the literature and that they were not particularly capable.
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