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Teufeldk -> FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/5/2019 12:02:26 PM)

The Panzers are rolling again!

This is a view of the front from the end of the German turn 2.

The turns did not end prematurely so no Russian pockets remain behind the lines. The advance has been very rapid, and as always, the infantry is struggling to keep up with the mobile divisions.

But so far everything is going according to plan:
In the north, Riga was captured by the 10th Panzer Division, and recon elements from that division have already moved across the Dvina River towards Pskov. In addition, Jekabpils have been captured by elements of the Brandenburg Regiment

The attack towards Minsk has reached Molodechino some 65 km from the town, and recon units have reported having engaged the city defenses just 25 km from the town center.
North of the Pripet Marshes AGC has passed Baranovichi. The town itself is still holding out.

In the south, the 4th Panzer Regiment from 13th Panzer Division has captured Ostrog on the way to Kiev. The city was defended by the 19th Motorized Regiment of the 22nd Mech Corps and was only taken after heavy fighting.

The first week of the war have seen 58 scout cars and 94 German tanks and assault guns put out of action. The Germans estimate that they have destroyed or captured around 1000 Russian scout cars and around 5000 Russian tanks of all kinds.


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Cfant -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/7/2019 6:50:14 AM)

Are you crazy? You lost 94 tanks in one week? Don't you know one PzIII costs about 100.000 Reichsmark? Yes, you have to conquer Soviet Russia, but you also have to be responsible with the money of the tax payers! [:D]

Fun aside, looks like an impressing start! Tank losses 1:50 is always good [;)]How many Soviet planes have been downed? How many HRS have you lost? And what's the main aim - Moscow, Leningrad or the South?



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/7/2019 3:28:14 PM)

Well, I don't want to disclose all my plan to Søren, but I am trying to push everywhere hoping to find one or more spots where the Russians have not yet have time to set up a proper defense.
It is gonna be difficult because Søren usually uses the Zone/Cheese defense you even a few units can block the line of advance.

I have lost 1479 Infantry Squads w/LMG and 210 Infantry Squads w/2 LMG in the first 2 turns. I believe the Russians have lost 15 to 20K.

My estimate of destroyed Russian planes is around 3000. But maybe Søren can make a comment on that?

I did not bomb the airfields as much as I use to because the I find that the I-153 and I-16 are so utterly useless with their low, stats, proficiency and shock values that Luftwaffe are better used for ground support.



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/9/2019 9:22:04 PM)

Report from the end of turn 4

The speed of the advance has slowed down a bit since the recon units are running low on supplies, and the infantry and artillery are struggling to keep up.

Even so, great progress has been made:
In the North, The Germans have captured Daugavpils, and they are closing in on Pskov - the gateway to Leningrad.

AGC is advancing towards Vitebsk and Orsha on the way to Smolensk. The advance on Gomel has not been as fast as hoped.

AGS is encountering heavy resistance, and the advance on Kiev have not progressed as much as hoped. This is primarily because the infantry has not yet caught up to the forward mobile units.

German Panzer losses of all kinds are now at 134.





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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/15/2019 9:12:41 AM)

End of German turn 6

In the far north Gebirgs Korps Norway has launched Operation Platinum Fox – the drive towards Murmansk. The German 2nd Gebirgs Division is tasked with taking the Rybachy Peninsula, while the 3rd Gebirgs Division are trying to secure a bridgehead over the Lista River. So far the advance went well, but now the entire Russian air force have arrived on the scene to stop the advance. And even though the Finnish Air Force has much better pilots than the Russians the overwhelming advantage in numbers will insure that the Finnish air will be attrited very fast if they are committed.

In Russia the advance are slowing down in general as more and more Russians defend.

In the north recon units of AGN have taken an undefended Tallinn. AGN are also closing in on Pskov with the hope of taking it within 1-2 weeks, since it is expected to be heavily defended. AGN have also made good progress towards Velikiye Luki, and are currently just out side Idritsa. Further south the city of Polotsk have been taken.

AGC have taken Borisov on the way to Orsha, and Vitebsk.

AGS have taken Korosten (with the bridge intact) an important rail junction on the way to Kiev. AGS are still some 130 km from Kiev as the crow flies.

Romania have joined the war and together with the 11th Army they have made several crossing over the Dniester River


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larryfulkerson -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/20/2019 5:00:29 AM)

Are you guys still playing? I want to know what happened next.



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/20/2019 7:56:03 AM)

Yes, we are.

But we don't have that much time so sometimes there might be a few days (or more) between turns.


Søren is currently completing his turn 7.



MikeJ19 -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/20/2019 2:32:54 PM)

Kristian,

Thanks for the AAR. I'm enjoying watch how this goes.

Have a good day,



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/23/2019 6:10:48 PM)

End of German tun 8

AGN have reached the Neva River with the scout units, and are now waiting for the Infantry and Artillery to arrive on the scene. Further south the river bend west of Pskov has been cleared and the Germans are now preparing to make an attempt to cross the river around Pskov. In addition, the Germans have crossed the River about 30 km south of Pskov.

AGC is closing in on Velikie Luki and Orsha, and have captured Mogilev about 80 km south of Orsha. Further south German recon unit has advanced to just 12 km from the center of the city of Gomel.

AGS is still advancing towards Kiev and is now about 85 km from the center of the city. Further south Odessa have been captures and 11th army and the Romanian allies are advancing towards Nikolayev.


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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/23/2019 6:11:21 PM)

AGS

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gliz2 -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/25/2019 12:21:12 PM)

Kristian I am in awe. How the hell you did get Riga and Minsk in turn 2? I have never ever achieved that [X(] Just by checking the tables for movement it seems almost impossible.
And in turn 8 you are at the gates of Kiev and Pskov [&:]



LLv34_Snefens -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/25/2019 2:15:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Teufeldk

AGN have reached the Neva River with the scout units, and are now waiting for the Infantry and Artillery to arrive on the scene.


Narva River. I presume Søren would be throwing in the towel if you were at the Neva on turn 8. :)



Dagfinn -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/25/2019 2:29:31 PM)

Hi
Would you care to post a screenshot of the Arctic Front?



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/25/2019 7:03:32 PM)

Lol, yeah.

Of course Narva :)



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/25/2019 7:15:37 PM)

I would love to post a screenshot of the arctic front.

But Søren has launched a counter-offensive up there and there may not be any units left next turn :)

I had a terrible turn 9 - only one combat round and then a fail proficiency check. I plan to kill the surrounded Russians and then retreat, but I because the turn ended I never got to the retreat part.
So as you can see in my end turn 9, I stood to be easily surrounded, which Søren, of course, did as you can see in the End turn 10 pictures.

After Søren has made his turn 10 I am afraid there will be no more Germans left. I just hope the reinforcements arrives in time to safe Petsamo and Kirkenes.

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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/25/2019 7:33:41 PM)

@Gliz2

Well, as the German player turn 1 is your most important turn.

You have many things going for you:
1: No extra cost for moving in enemy ZOC
2: Movement Bias so you can move further
3: Rail damage is 0 the first 3 turns

You should use these advantages to get as far as possible, and "catch" as many Russians as possible to prevent them from retreating in the Russian turn 1.

Your focus should NOT be on killing the Russian front line troops - they are dead no matter what and can be killed with the rear troops. I admit that I usually kill a great deal of the Russians in the first turn, but that is just because I like order. I don't want troops behind my front :)

So, since there is no ZOC, just move past the Russians to get as far as possible. The pic below is my end turn 1. As you can see I have taken the railroad intact all the way to between Mazeikiai and Jelgava. When this is done you can move a Pz div, Bringing units and engineer en masse up there by rail. This enables you to capture Riga in turn 2 because the Russians have very few troops the area.

It is not magic - just logistics :)




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gliz2 -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/26/2019 7:26:43 AM)

Thanks a lot Kristian,

I actually was curious and have restarted yesterday and I have to say - no magic indeed :P
But I had failed proficiency check in the middle of Turn 1 (seriously?... sigh)

Plus I observed that although there should be no ZOCs my troops are stopped quite often in there and that I got random events that stops advancing units for no particular reasons.

I will have another try for opening gambit today with even more cheeky approach.

Once again thanks for explaining. And yeah I've meant Narva river :)



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/28/2019 3:44:42 PM)

End of German turn 10

Turn 9 and 10 were horrible for the Germans. Turn 9 ended after just one combat round with a failed Proficiency Check, and turn 10 ended after 4 rounds with a failed Proficiency Check. So little advance was made in the areas, where the Russians are defending.

Anyway, AGN managed to cross the southern part of the Narva River and Pskov is all but taken. Further south AGN is only 12 km from Velikie Luki, about 95 km from Kholm, and 35 km from Vitebsk.

AGC has advanced to within 6 km of Orsha from an SW approach, but the western approach to the city is defended by strong Russian Forces. They are advancing on Roslavl, but are still far away. Further south AGC has expelled the Russians from Gomel.

AGS is at the gates of Kiev that appears to be only lightly defended. The Army Group is generally poised to cross the Dnepr, and are advancing on Krivoy Rog and Nikolayev.

We hope the future turns will last longer :)

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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/28/2019 3:45:25 PM)

The South

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Cfant -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/29/2019 11:16:14 AM)

That's not horrible. It simply doesn't matter. Would have been bad on turn 1 or 2, but since then - it will happen sometimes. Much more importent is to keep momentum after crossing the Djnepr. Good luck!



gliz2 -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/29/2019 11:28:10 AM)

@Kristian
Just on the sidenote. Got as far as you on T1 on the way to Riga. Put all I could on the railhead there and couldn't get to take Riga (2 hexes occupied by Soviets at the end of T2). And quite honestly I don't understand how I got worse result on Riga [&:]
But no more OT from my side.

Impressive pace for ze Germans.



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (1/29/2019 5:19:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cfant

That's not horrible. It simply doesn't matter. Would have been bad on turn 1 or 2, but since then - it will happen sometimes. Much more importent is to keep momentum after crossing the Djnepr. Good luck!


I know it happens now and then. It is still horrible [:)]

But Søren proclaimed that if it had not happened he would have lost. I doubt it though - he is always so melodramatic [:D]



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (2/1/2019 10:14:17 PM)

Well, it, of course, depends on how the Russian player is using his units.

If he masses everything possible at Riga I am not sure I could take in turn 2 either.

But Søren usually does not do that.



Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (2/2/2019 11:32:56 AM)

End of German turn 12

AGN are still trying to take Narva city but it is well defended, and supported by the Russian Navy. So progress is slow.
Pskov have been taking and the advance towards Novgorod in on. We expect a heavy Russian defense line along the Luga River.

The advance on Kohlm is going good and AGN is now about 20 km from the city.

Velikie Luki has been taking, but strong Russian forces are preventing a rapid advance towards Zap Dvina and on to Moscow.

AGC has met strong enemy forces west of Smolensk, so we are trying to flank them to the south and take Smolensk from that direction.

AGS has all but taken Kiev, and are advancing east of the city.

In the south Nikolayev have been taken, but strong Russian forces are blocking the way to Kherson, so the Germans are preparing an offensive in the blitz turn that comes on turn 13.

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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (2/2/2019 11:33:27 AM)

The South

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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (2/6/2019 3:09:03 PM)

End of German turn 14

In Finland, reinforcements have arrived a week too late to save the 2 surrounded Moutain Division at the Rybachy Peninsula. The reinforcements are now trying to launch a counter-offensive.

AGN has not made much progress in crossing the Luga river at Narva.
But the advance on Luga and Novgorod are going well.

Kholm has been taken and the Germans are advancing towards Staraya Russa.
Only a little progress has been made towards Zap Dvina.

AGC is still advancing towards Smolensk from SW, and on Roslavl directly. A small pocket of 2 Russian divisions has been created around Chausy.
The advance east of Gomel is going ok.

AGS is advancing east of Kiev towards Kharkov. Further South Nikolayev has been taken and the next Russian nut to crack is around Kherson.

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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (2/6/2019 3:09:33 PM)

The South

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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (2/6/2019 3:10:26 PM)

The Arctic

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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (3/4/2019 8:16:02 PM)

End of German turn 16

AGN have more or less stopped at the Luga River to prepare for an offensive later, over the river as they are expecting very heavy Russian defenses on the other side.

On the Southern side of the river, they are approaching the city of Luga.

West of Zap Dvina, the Germans have also been stopped by strong Russian forces. They are now resting and preparing a planned attack.

AGC has been stopped at Smolensk by strong Russian forces. The same applies west of Roslavl. But the Germans are planning an offensive between the two cities to break the line.

Further south AGC is still making good progress towards Bryansk. And now the sector has been reinforced by the Italians, by victory is certain!

AGS is still making good progress towards Kursk and Kharkov. The attack towards Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye are not as fast.

Kherson is heavily defended, and it has proved very difficult to cross the river and take the city. Here the Germans are also resting for a bit to launch an offensive to get across the river and take Kherson.

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Teufeldk -> RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany (3/4/2019 8:16:40 PM)

The south

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